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  1. #16
    John Navas
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    Re: "GSM to overtake CDMA in USA"

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    In <b6b%[email protected]> on Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:09:43 GMT, "Michael
    Lynch" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:Lg8%[email protected]


    >> No, that "no carrier provides 100% coverage" simply means that there will
    >> *always* be places where your cell phone won't work, no matter what the
    >> technology (AMPS included) and no matter what the carrier (your buddy Verizon
    >> included, notwithstanding misleading "Can you hear me now? ads). Thus, here
    >> in the USA a cell phone isn't a terribly good *emergency* device,

    >
    >Another classic from John. Who the heck was talking about an "emergency
    >device?" Another example of you twisting the subject around to avoid the
    >issue at hand.


    Just one of several such posts:

    From: Steven M. Scharf ([email protected])
    Subject: Re: GAIT in California (was Re: E-mailing Cingular)
    Date: 2003-08-10 09:39:08 PST
    Message-ID: <[email protected]rthlink.net>

    Actually, when I go off to get away from it all, I will turn my cell phone
    off (partly to save the battery when AMPS roaming, partly to avoid
    being annoyed). But if there was an EMERGENCY, I would be very glad
    that I had coverage. [emphasis added]

    [MORE]

    Apology accepted.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



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  2. #17
    John Navas
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    Re: "GSM to overtake CDMA in USA"

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    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:06:02
    GMT, "Giambi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]


    >>"http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~paulette/courses/Spring03_HW/IS290_WirelessC

    >omm/2_Riseofthe3GEmpire.pdf"
    >> >
    >> >I have a table with this data in the appendix of my sites,
    >> >you can go directly there:
    >> >"http://nordicgroup.us/ssub/appendix.htm"
    >> >
    >> >Be wary of any "studies" from the CDMA or 3G trade
    >> >groups, or from equipment manufacturers on either
    >> >side.

    >>
    >> Be equally wary of material from interested parties with as axe to grind, as
    >> is the case here, which is anything but "impartial."

    >
    >Ah the irony.. does that advice apply to your posts too, John? Or just
    >everyone else? Pot.. kettle, etc.


    I have no axe to grind. As I have repeatedly stated, use the service that
    works best for you in your area -- there is no one best service.

    >Oh, and could you do that bit where you claim to be the technology-neutral
    >voice again? That one cracks me up every time.


    I'm technology neutral. You're welcome.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  3. #18
    RDT
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    Re: "GSM to overtake CDMA in USA"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >I'm technology neutral. You're welcome.


    Navas, with all due respect, I disagree. You support Cingular like a
    rabid disciple. I like GSM, too, but I think CDMA would be hard to pass
    up if it had a cleaner codec and quality of service standards which would
    never again allow carriers to increase capacity at the expense of voice
    quality. Or, perhaps some hybrid technology (like the TD-SCDMA) where you
    divide the bandwidth both by time and codes. This would allow much higher
    throughput per timeslot for data while giving a guaranteed amount of
    bandwidth to each timeslice.

    RDT
    --
    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the
    inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
    --- Sir Winston Churchill




  4. #19
    John Navas
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    Re: "GSM to overtake CDMA in USA"

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    In <[email protected]> on Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:58:32
    -0700, "Giambi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]


    >> I'm technology neutral. You're welcome.


    >Yes John, I still have the thread flagged as 'watch'. Somehow it doesn't
    >surprise me to see you adding some addendum when you think everyone else has
    >stopped looking.


    No -- I've just very busy the past few weeks, what with Big Boat Series here
    on SF Bay on top of my usual challenges.

    >[silly and childish insult deleted]


    No actual content. Why am I not surprised.

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  5. #20
    John Navas
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    Re: "GSM to overtake CDMA in USA"

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    In <[email protected]> on 19 Sep 2003 14:04:20 -0400,
    [email protected] ("RDT") wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    >John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:


    >>I'm technology neutral. You're welcome.

    >
    > Navas, with all due respect, I disagree. You support Cingular like a
    >rabid disciple.
    >[SNIP]


    What I actually say is:

    I've repeatedly stated that the best carrier is the one that works best for
    you and your needs in the geographic areas that matter to you. That might
    be Cingular; that might be Verizon; or that might be some other carrier.
    <news:[email protected]>
    <news:[email protected]>

    The most important thing to bear in mind is that quality of coverage
    isn't universal and unchanging -- the best carrier in one area won't
    be the best carrier in some other area, or at a different point in
    time -- so global generalizations aren't terribly meaningful.
    <news:[email protected]>

    There is no one best carrier -- different locations have different
    best carriers. I know of buildings where I can get a Cingular signal
    but not a Verizon signal, but in and of itself that doesn't mean
    Verizon sucks, and vice versa.
    <news[email protected]>

    There is no one best carrier for all areas.
    <news:[email protected]>

    ... there is no one perfect carrier -- it all depends on which carrier is
    best in the specific areas you care about.
    <news:[email protected]>

    What matters most is the quality of the carrier, and the coverage it
    provides in areas important to you, much more than the basic technology.
    A good GSM carrier will provide better service than a poor CDMA (or
    TDMA) carrier, and vice versa. A carrier that's good in some other area
    might not be good in your area, and vice versa. Finally, different
    phones provide different quality of service. ...
    Much depends on where you are, and how you intend to use your phone.
    There is no one right carrier (or technology) for all areas, just as
    there is no one right phone for all people.
    <news:[email protected]>

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



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