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  1. #1
    Daniel
    Guest
    My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.

    My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    (non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    knowledgeable.

    Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    GAIT phone.

    Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)

    --
    Daniel



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  2. #2
    N W
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Basically its like this...in order to get a GSM phone you must switch
    plan to either Super Home or GSM Nation....neither of which will support
    a GAIT phone....if you are on a Family Talk Plan, both phones must be
    the same technology....there are a few rare exceptions...if you have a
    FT CPN plan you can have the base line as TDMA but the secondary as GSM,
    but since GSM isn't built out as much...if your GSM phone reads Cingular
    Extend youwill be charged $0.79/min...and that is in alot of places...so
    its really not worth it...you can take your t62u and have it set on GSM
    only or have Cingular remove the phone's ESN from the network, then your
    T62u becomes only GSM so you can use it on a GSM plan....

    I know its kina confusing but it can be done...but i'd suggest just
    upgrading to GSM or get 2 seperate plans

    --
    Thanx,

    N W


    [email protected] (Daniel) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    > wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    > that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    >
    > My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    > switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    > we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    > have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    > location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    > (non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    > knowledgeable.
    >
    > Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    > T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    > GAIT phone.
    >
    > Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    > in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    > agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    >
    > --
    > Daniel


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  3. #3
    Stephen R. Conrad
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    I have a superhome family talk plan in Ohio with three phones (two GAIT
    phones and one GSM) with no problems. The GSM phone has more dead areas than
    do the GAIT phones.

    Steve

    "Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]ogle.com...
    > My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    > wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    > that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    >
    > My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    > switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    > we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    > have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    > location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    > (non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    > knowledgeable.
    >
    > Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    > T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    > GAIT phone.
    >
    > Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    > in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    > agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    >
    > --
    > Daniel



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  4. #4
    Jim Smith
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    I've been told (in the Northeast) that SuperHome Family Plans are
    compatible across technology lines (same minutes, just different maps).

    Are we talking a National plan of some sort here?

    I would imagine that National Family Plans are not cross-tech
    compatible, since each differing technology has a different
    price/minutes breakdown. (And the GAIT National Plan has no Family
    option, as far as I know.)

    Jim.

    "Stephen R. Conrad" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <bkl05n$2q[email protected]>:
    > I have a superhome family talk plan in Ohio with three phones (two GAIT
    > phones and one GSM) with no problems. The GSM phone has more dead areas than
    > do the GAIT phones.
    >
    > Steve
    >
    > "Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    > > wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    > > that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    > >
    > > My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    > > switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    > > we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    > > have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    > > location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    > > (non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    > > knowledgeable.
    > >
    > > Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    > > T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    > > GAIT phone.
    > >
    > > Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    > > in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    > > agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    > >
    > > --
    > > Daniel

    >
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  5. #5
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    I called not too long ago to switch to Cingular Nation and add a second
    line. I was told that currently, with Cingular's national plans,
    FamilyTalk is not available. I do have to admit that 500 anytime
    minutes, with Rollover, and 5000 night/weekend minutes, that work
    anywhere, is a really good deal.

    AD

    Jim Smith wrote:
    > I've been told (in the Northeast) that SuperHome Family Plans are
    > compatible across technology lines (same minutes, just different maps).
    >
    > Are we talking a National plan of some sort here?
    >
    > I would imagine that National Family Plans are not cross-tech
    > compatible, since each differing technology has a different
    > price/minutes breakdown. (And the GAIT National Plan has no Family
    > option, as far as I know.)
    >
    > Jim.
    >
    > "Stephen R. Conrad" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>I have a superhome family talk plan in Ohio with three phones (two GAIT
    >>phones and one GSM) with no problems. The GSM phone has more dead areas than
    >>do the GAIT phones.
    >>
    >>Steve
    >>
    >>"Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    >>>wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    >>>that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    >>>
    >>>My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    >>>switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    >>>we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    >>>have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    >>>location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    >>>(non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    >>>knowledgeable.
    >>>
    >>>Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    >>>T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    >>>GAIT phone.
    >>>
    >>>Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    >>>in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    >>>agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    >>>
    >>>--
    >>>Daniel

    >>
    >>
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    >>

    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]





  6. #6
    Jim Smith
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Family Talk is not available with the GAIT Cingular Nation plans. If
    you were, for some reason, to get a GSM phone, you could have Family
    Talk.

    From the maps, it doesn't look as if GSM is about Dakota at all, though.


    The best I can recommend for multiple lines with nationwide coverage is
    one of our TDMA Preferred Nation plans.


    About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > I called not too long ago to switch to Cingular Nation and add a second
    > line. I was told that currently, with Cingular's national plans,
    > FamilyTalk is not available. I do have to admit that 500 anytime
    > minutes, with Rollover, and 5000 night/weekend minutes, that work
    > anywhere, is a really good deal.
    >
    > AD
    >
    > Jim Smith wrote:
    > > I've been told (in the Northeast) that SuperHome Family Plans are
    > > compatible across technology lines (same minutes, just different maps).
    > >
    > > Are we talking a National plan of some sort here?
    > >
    > > I would imagine that National Family Plans are not cross-tech
    > > compatible, since each differing technology has a different
    > > price/minutes breakdown. (And the GAIT National Plan has no Family
    > > option, as far as I know.)
    > >
    > > Jim.
    > >
    > > "Stephen R. Conrad" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > >>I have a superhome family talk plan in Ohio with three phones (two GAIT
    > >>phones and one GSM) with no problems. The GSM phone has more dead areas than
    > >>do the GAIT phones.
    > >>
    > >>Steve
    > >>
    > >>"Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >>news:[email protected]
    > >>
    > >>>My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    > >>>wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    > >>>that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    > >>>
    > >>>My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    > >>>switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    > >>>we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    > >>>have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    > >>>location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    > >>>(non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    > >>>knowledgeable.
    > >>>
    > >>>Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    > >>>T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    > >>>GAIT phone.
    > >>>
    > >>>Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    > >>>in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    > >>>agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    > >>>
    > >>>--
    > >>>Daniel
    > >>
    > >>
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    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >


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  7. #7
    Joe
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    i bought a new nokia 3300 for 1 of the 3 lines i have on a family plan
    and didn't have to change anything
    I currently have a plan that dates back to sept 2001.
    $39.99 internet via csd
    100 text messages (shared) for all 3 lines
    and 400 minutes with unlimited(not 5000) night/weekend minutes
    and i didn't have to change the mobile to mobile per phone we simply
    pay $9.99 once and all 3 lines share the unlimited mobile to mobile
    we have a tmobile phone (3650) but it's still within the return policy
    for tmobile however we might keep it because the user on that line has
    unlimited data for 9.99 a month and has already downloaded 85mb since
    the 9th of september. If only cingular had unlimited data instead of
    their $6 1mb plans.
    I forgot to mention the other 2 phones are gait(6304i) one has been in
    gsm mode for nearly 1.5 months and the other has never seen a momnet
    of gsm for some reason.

    If anyone has any info on gprs data and cingular post it here too.



  8. #8
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Assuming that you are talking about a family plan with shared minutes
    you should both get a GAIT. GAIT works perfectly in a GSM area, that's
    what it's designed to do. It will be easier for you to get two GAIT
    phones in your area than in Seattle. With both of you on the same plan
    billing will go smoother. Who ever lied to you about a GAIT phone not
    working on GSM needs to be fired. If your GAIT phone is with Cingular
    then it will be a cinch to get your wife on with the same type of phone.

    I travel to Seattle every weekend. I recently got two T62U phones
    through Cingular. (Talk about hassles!) Cingular and AT&T come in very
    well in this area. Downtown Seattle can be the pits for any cell phone
    user, especially inside buildings- with the GAIT phone I get at least
    two bars where I used to get nothing. I would recommend living in
    Lynwood rather than Seattle as you get much better in house signals
    there. One nice thing about this GAIT phone is that it will tell you
    when it's not getting any single.

    [email protected] (Daniel) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    > wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    > that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    >
    > My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    > switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    > we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    > have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    > location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    > (non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    > knowledgeable.
    >
    > Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    > T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    > GAIT phone.
    >
    > Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    > in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    > agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    >
    > --
    > Daniel


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #9
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Very very true, Cingular doesn not service North Dakota. I started on
    Cingular before moving to North Dakota, and I have found the roaming
    service (included on the Preferred Nation) plan in North Dakota exceeds
    the service from the local companies (Verizon and CellularOne[West]).
    However, due to my contract terms, Cingular must either still provide
    the (mostly) national service I have signed up, or let me out of the
    contract (without early termination fee). Of course, I signed up over
    the phone (I have the conversation recorded, I record all conversations
    with businesses after my experience with CellularOne) and they affirmed
    that if I moved to an area and Cingular dropped my service because my
    being in that area, I would NOT be responsible for early termination fees.

    I thought switching to a National (GAIT) plan and getting a second line
    would be a good deal because my parents would only use the phone for no
    more than 60 minutes per month.

    Oh, I forgot to mention: you are right. North Dakota has very very
    limited GSM coverage (Fargo/Grand Forks Corridor, via RCC Unicel). Most
    of the GSM coverage in North Dakots is "overlap" from Canada.

    AD


    Jim Smith wrote:
    > Family Talk is not available with the GAIT Cingular Nation plans. If
    > you were, for some reason, to get a GSM phone, you could have Family
    > Talk.
    >
    > From the maps, it doesn't look as if GSM is about Dakota at all, though.
    >
    >
    > The best I can recommend for multiple lines with nationwide coverage is
    > one of our TDMA Preferred Nation plans.
    >
    >
    > About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>I called not too long ago to switch to Cingular Nation and add a second
    >>line. I was told that currently, with Cingular's national plans,
    >>FamilyTalk is not available. I do have to admit that 500 anytime
    >>minutes, with Rollover, and 5000 night/weekend minutes, that work
    >>anywhere, is a really good deal.
    >>
    >>AD
    >>
    >>Jim Smith wrote:
    >>
    >>>I've been told (in the Northeast) that SuperHome Family Plans are
    >>>compatible across technology lines (same minutes, just different maps).
    >>>
    >>>Are we talking a National plan of some sort here?
    >>>
    >>>I would imagine that National Family Plans are not cross-tech
    >>>compatible, since each differing technology has a different
    >>>price/minutes breakdown. (And the GAIT National Plan has no Family
    >>>option, as far as I know.)
    >>>
    >>>Jim.
    >>>
    >>>"Stephen R. Conrad" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    >>><[email protected]>:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>I have a superhome family talk plan in Ohio with three phones (two GAIT
    >>>>phones and one GSM) with no problems. The GSM phone has more dead areas than
    >>>>do the GAIT phones.
    >>>>
    >>>>Steve
    >>>>
    >>>>"Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>news:[email protected]
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    >>>>>wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    >>>>>that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    >>>>>switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    >>>>>we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    >>>>>have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    >>>>>location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    >>>>>(non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    >>>>>knowledgeable.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    >>>>>T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    >>>>>GAIT phone.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    >>>>>in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    >>>>>agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>--
    >>>>>Daniel
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>---
    >>>>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
    >>>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    >>>>Version: 6.0.520 / Virus Database: 318 - Release Date: 9/18/2003
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>[posted via phonescoop.com]

    >>

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]





  10. #10
    Group Special Mobile
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:44:03 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    wrote:

    >I travel to Seattle every weekend. I recently got two T62U phones
    >through Cingular. (Talk about hassles!) Cingular and AT&T come in very
    >well in this area. Downtown Seattle can be the pits for any cell phone
    >user, especially inside buildings- with the GAIT phone I get at least
    >two bars where I used to get nothing. I would recommend living in
    >Lynwood rather than Seattle as you get much better in house signals
    >there.


    Nonsense. Whether you live in Lynnwood or Seattle doesn't make any
    difference. What does make a difference is where the nearest cell
    site is located. If you think there's only one cell site in all of
    Lynnwood or one cell site in all of Seattle you are deceived.

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  11. #11
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Is it not possible that Lynwood roams with a different carrier, at lower
    mHz? Isn't it true that lower mHz penetrate buildings better than PCS?
    it may be other factors than the number of towers, like terrain,
    interference from other radio broadcasting systems, and other
    environmental factors? I've never seen either city, so I can only
    speculate as to what might be the problem.

    AD

    Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:44:03 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I travel to Seattle every weekend. I recently got two T62U phones
    >>through Cingular. (Talk about hassles!) Cingular and AT&T come in very
    >>well in this area. Downtown Seattle can be the pits for any cell phone
    >>user, especially inside buildings- with the GAIT phone I get at least
    >>two bars where I used to get nothing. I would recommend living in
    >>Lynwood rather than Seattle as you get much better in house signals
    >>there.

    >
    >
    > Nonsense. Whether you live in Lynnwood or Seattle doesn't make any
    > difference. What does make a difference is where the nearest cell
    > site is located. If you think there's only one cell site in all of
    > Lynnwood or one cell site in all of Seattle you are deceived.
    >
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > To send an email reply send to
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  12. #12
    chuckk
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    In my area, Cingular claims that the GAIT phones cannot be used on the GSM
    only plans.
    What a load of *&^%. The whole thing is about rates and plans. They charge
    $10 extra for each secondary phone on the GAIT plans vs the GSM plans.
    (It's all in the phone programming and sim)

    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Is it not possible that Lynwood roams with a different carrier, at lower
    > mHz? Isn't it true that lower mHz penetrate buildings better than PCS?
    > it may be other factors than the number of towers, like terrain,
    > interference from other radio broadcasting systems, and other
    > environmental factors? I've never seen either city, so I can only
    > speculate as to what might be the problem.
    >
    > AD
    >
    > Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:44:03 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>I travel to Seattle every weekend. I recently got two T62U phones
    > >>through Cingular. (Talk about hassles!) Cingular and AT&T come in very
    > >>well in this area. Downtown Seattle can be the pits for any cell phone
    > >>user, especially inside buildings- with the GAIT phone I get at least
    > >>two bars where I used to get nothing. I would recommend living in
    > >>Lynwood rather than Seattle as you get much better in house signals
    > >>there.

    > >
    > >
    > > Nonsense. Whether you live in Lynnwood or Seattle doesn't make any
    > > difference. What does make a difference is where the nearest cell
    > > site is located. If you think there's only one cell site in all of
    > > Lynnwood or one cell site in all of Seattle you are deceived.
    > >
    > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > > To send an email reply send to
    > > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    >






  13. #13
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Sorry old man, but I must hold a different opinion. Seattle is high
    rise city, both in apartments and in office buildings. A huge structure
    can actually block a radio signal, especially with these weak cell
    phones. Lynnwood has far fewer high rises and much less cellular
    traffic, and they have an abundance of cell towers.

    Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:44:03 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >I travel to Seattle every weekend. I recently got two T62U phones
    > >through Cingular. (Talk about hassles!) Cingular and AT&T come in very
    > >well in this area. Downtown Seattle can be the pits for any cell phone
    > >user, especially inside buildings- with the GAIT phone I get at least
    > >two bars where I used to get nothing. I would recommend living in
    > >Lynwood rather than Seattle as you get much better in house signals
    > >there.

    >
    > Nonsense. Whether you live in Lynnwood or Seattle doesn't make any
    > difference. What does make a difference is where the nearest cell
    > site is located. If you think there's only one cell site in all of
    > Lynnwood or one cell site in all of Seattle you are deceived.
    >
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > To send an email reply send to
    > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com


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  14. #14
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    Good questions. No, penetration is not due to lower MHz, it is due to
    how close the tower is to you and how well that tower is designed for
    covering a distance. Most city towers are designed to only have a 2
    mile reach. We have three major carriers in our area and all them have
    either built their own towers or piggy backed on someone else's (you
    would be surprised how many towers T-Mobil alone lists).
    The Lynnwood area is primarily a flat land with lots of trees, and a few
    rolls. It is situated just off the freeway. Seattle is basically flat
    but it also sports several large hills and lots of tall buildings. From
    Shoreline to Everett its all fairly flat.
    The Bellevue- Bothel area also has a great deal of relative flatness but
    here you run into higher elevations and a few heavily wooded areas.
    There is one stretch on 405 where most radio signals all but vanish.
    This is between Bothel and Everett.
    There are lots of areas up here that a new resident can enjoy
    themselves. A second reason I do not recommend living in Seattle is a
    much higher crime rate. Car theft is almost a hobby down there.

    About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Is it not possible that Lynwood roams with a different carrier, at lower
    > mHz? Isn't it true that lower mHz penetrate buildings better than PCS?
    > it may be other factors than the number of towers, like terrain,
    > interference from other radio broadcasting systems, and other
    > environmental factors? I've never seen either city, so I can only
    > speculate as to what might be the problem.
    >
    > AD
    >
    > Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:44:03 -0000, [email protected] (William Bray)
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>I travel to Seattle every weekend. I recently got two T62U phones
    > >>through Cingular. (Talk about hassles!) Cingular and AT&T come in very
    > >>well in this area. Downtown Seattle can be the pits for any cell phone
    > >>user, especially inside buildings- with the GAIT phone I get at least
    > >>two bars where I used to get nothing. I would recommend living in
    > >>Lynwood rather than Seattle as you get much better in house signals
    > >>there.

    > >
    > >
    > > Nonsense. Whether you live in Lynnwood or Seattle doesn't make any
    > > difference. What does make a difference is where the nearest cell
    > > site is located. If you think there's only one cell site in all of
    > > Lynnwood or one cell site in all of Seattle you are deceived.
    > >
    > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > > To send an email reply send to
    > > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    >


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  15. #15
    Chris Russell
    Guest

    Re: Cingular says T62u won't work with GSM?

    I think if you go to the website, you will see that GAIT phones will
    only be serviced on Cingular Superhome Family Talk and Nation Plans (not
    the GSM Nation Plan). These are the old Nation Plans from TDMA markets
    where GAIT phones were first marketed. Click on the terms for each plan
    at the bottom of each plans pricing to see the phones covered. This
    info was the same in Detroit and OKC, OK. Currently in Seattle only GSM
    plans are being offered-no GAIT phones.

    --
    Chris

    Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com


    [email protected] (Daniel) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > My wife and I are with Cingular, and have been for some time now. My
    > wife has an old Nokia TDMA something or other, and I've got a T62u
    > that I upgraded to a few months ago because my Nokia was crapping out.
    >
    > My wife's phone is needing replacement, and we're considering
    > switching to GSM. We spoke with a rep yesterday that implied that if
    > we moved to a GSM plan and got my wife a new phone, my phone would
    > have to be upgraded as well. I thought "bull" and we left. The
    > location was basically a table in the back corner of a local
    > (non-chain) office supply store, and the rep didn't seem particularly
    > knowledgeable.
    >
    > Is there any reason at all why switching to a GSM plan would cause my
    > T62u to stop working? I thought that was the whole point of having a
    > GAIT phone.
    >
    > Also, how is Cingular up in the Seattle area? We'll be moving there
    > in about nine months and I don't want to get stuck in another two year
    > agreement if they suck up there. (currently in Stillwater, OK)
    >
    > --
    > Daniel


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