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- 09-25-2003, 12:59 PM #1RoyceGuest
Greetings,
I have had Cingular service with a Nokia 5165 for several years. I am
having some battery problems and am considering a change in handsets. I
see lots of discussion concerning the latest GSM technology, and the
information concerning the advantage of having a phone capable of
Analog, TDMA, and GSM.
What I would like to know is if someone could explain the benefits both
pro and con of having a phone such as this. A FAQ or informative web
site explaining it would be nice. I see that some people elude to added
features with a GSM phone, but I am not sure what those features are.
Also, I am on a nationwide plan with cingular and I am aware the New
Orleans Market is either converting to, or in the process of converting,
to GSM. Does anyone know if Mobile Alabama is converting yet or anytime
in the near future? These two cities, and those between when I am
traveling back and forth, are the primary cities I visit regularly.
Thanks!!!!
Royce
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- 09-25-2003, 02:50 PM #2Group Special MobileGuest
Re: Information concerning GSM, TDMA etc...
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:59:03 -0500, Royce <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Greetings,
>I have had Cingular service with a Nokia 5165 for several years. I am
>having some battery problems and am considering a change in handsets. I
>see lots of discussion concerning the latest GSM technology, and the
>information concerning the advantage of having a phone capable of
>Analog, TDMA, and GSM.
If you have cingular's original digital technology i.e.TDMA you will
have the most coverage as you'll have coverage in all areas that
cingular has TDMA coverage and also analog AMPS coverage. This should
give you more complete coverage. Even in areas where cingular does
not provide the TDMA service another carrier such as AT&T does provide
service and you will be able to roam on the foreign system (often with
an extra charge.) The advantage of being on the TDMA system is that
it's a legacy system that has been around since the 90's and the
analog AMPS system has been around since 1983. You will have more
complete coverage.
GSM is the newer system and is the system that cingular is
transitioning to. One of the reasons that cingular and AT&T Wireless
are transitioning to GSM is that GSM is better suited to data than is
TDMA. GSM handsets are often more feature rich than the TDMA
counterpart (not always, but often.) GSM is also being transitioned
to because it is a world standard. More than 70% of worldwide mobile
telephone users use the GSM system. Over 750 million subscribers.
>Also, I am on a nationwide plan with cingular and I am aware the New
>Orleans Market is either converting to, or in the process of converting,
>to GSM. Does anyone know if Mobile Alabama is converting yet or anytime
>in the near future? These two cities, and those between when I am
>traveling back and forth, are the primary cities I visit regularly.
Eventually the entire holdings of cingular will be GSM. cingular's
system in California, Nevada was GSM from the outset. Washington was
originally a GTE Mobilenet system that was converted to the same kind
of GSM system as was used in California and Nevada. cingular also has
a native GSM system in the Carolinas and eastern Tennessee. The rest
of cingular's holdings (pretty much) were all original "cellular"
holdings and the systems that made up cingular were the original
cellular systems from 1983. Cellular and "PCS" use different
frequencies and cingular in order to introduce GSM to the majority of
their system needed to get GSM for their cellular system at 800 Mhz.
A new GSM frequency was made and both cingular and AT&T Wireless who
had TDMA digital systems decided to overlay their systems with the new
GSM technology. AT&T Wireless already had plenty of PCS 1900 spectrum
so they didn't need to immediately overlay their "cellular" system
with GSM 850, but from what I've been lead to believe AT&T is also
overlaying their cellular markets with GSM as well.
You should know depending on where you are that if you are in one of
the newer GSM markets that requires "cellular" GSM you'll have to get
one of the newer dual band GSM handsets that do both GSM 850 and GSM
1900.
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- 09-25-2003, 04:55 PM #3Chris RussellGuest
Re: Information concerning GSM, TDMA etc...
Get a GAIT phone to have service almost anywhere in the US. This is
800, 1900 TDMA, 850(800), 1900 GSM and 800 AMPS(analog). S-E t62u for a
data capable phone or Nokia 6340i for voice only capability. The latest
agreement with ATTWS give great roaming capability on both their GSM and
TDMA network. There are some areas that are still only TDMA and many
areas are getting GSM overlays (TDMA and AMPS are still there, but some
of the transceivers are being transitioned over to GSM-there are only so
many transceivers at a cell site). Here in the east side of the Detroit
metro area I get Cingular TDMA, GSM and AMPS also ATTWS TDMA and GSM
also T-Mobile GSDM also Microcell GSM and Bell Mobility AMPS(Canadian
carriers from Windsor, ON). I have a Nokia 6340i and travel all over
the country in my 18 wheeler rig and do have service almost everywhere I
go.
--
Chris
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Royce <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Greetings,
> I have had Cingular service with a Nokia 5165 for several years. I am
> having some battery problems and am considering a change in handsets. I
> see lots of discussion concerning the latest GSM technology, and the
> information concerning the advantage of having a phone capable of
> Analog, TDMA, and GSM.
>
> What I would like to know is if someone could explain the benefits both
> pro and con of having a phone such as this. A FAQ or informative web
> site explaining it would be nice. I see that some people elude to added
> features with a GSM phone, but I am not sure what those features are.
>
> Also, I am on a nationwide plan with cingular and I am aware the New
> Orleans Market is either converting to, or in the process of converting,
> to GSM. Does anyone know if Mobile Alabama is converting yet or anytime
> in the near future? These two cities, and those between when I am
> traveling back and forth, are the primary cities I visit regularly.
>
> Thanks!!!!
> Royce
>
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- 09-26-2003, 09:23 AM #4About DakotaGuest
Re: Information concerning GSM, TDMA etc...
Do you have the Cingular nation plan? If you do, I wanted to know if
your night and weekend minutes apply everywhere your have "Cingular"
service (like the preferred nation). I'm thinking about switching, but
I haven't made up my mind yet.
Thx
AD
Chris Russell wrote:
> Get a GAIT phone to have service almost anywhere in the US. This is
> 800, 1900 TDMA, 850(800), 1900 GSM and 800 AMPS(analog). S-E t62u for a
> data capable phone or Nokia 6340i for voice only capability. The latest
> agreement with ATTWS give great roaming capability on both their GSM and
> TDMA network. There are some areas that are still only TDMA and many
> areas are getting GSM overlays (TDMA and AMPS are still there, but some
> of the transceivers are being transitioned over to GSM-there are only so
> many transceivers at a cell site). Here in the east side of the Detroit
> metro area I get Cingular TDMA, GSM and AMPS also ATTWS TDMA and GSM
> also T-Mobile GSDM also Microcell GSM and Bell Mobility AMPS(Canadian
> carriers from Windsor, ON). I have a Nokia 6340i and travel all over
> the country in my 18 wheeler rig and do have service almost everywhere I
> go.
>
- 09-26-2003, 03:22 PM #5Chris RussellGuest
Re: Information concerning GSM, TDMA etc...
They apply anywhere I have service. Not just Cingular, but with any
carrier that the phone picks up. The only cavaet is that it is always
controlled by the local time where the call was made as to anytime or
NW. And I do have the Nation Plan (as differentiated from the Nation
GSM Plan) from my old TDMA market of Detroit. I travel all over the
country in my 18 wheel truck and get service with my Nokia 6340i.
--
Chris
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About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Do you have the Cingular nation plan? If you do, I wanted to know if
> your night and weekend minutes apply everywhere your have "Cingular"
> service (like the preferred nation). I'm thinking about switching, but
> I haven't made up my mind yet.
>
> Thx
>
> AD
>
> Chris Russell wrote:
> > Get a GAIT phone to have service almost anywhere in the US. This is
> > 800, 1900 TDMA, 850(800), 1900 GSM and 800 AMPS(analog). S-E t62u for a
> > data capable phone or Nokia 6340i for voice only capability. The latest
> > agreement with ATTWS give great roaming capability on both their GSM and
> > TDMA network. There are some areas that are still only TDMA and many
> > areas are getting GSM overlays (TDMA and AMPS are still there, but some
> > of the transceivers are being transitioned over to GSM-there are only so
> > many transceivers at a cell site). Here in the east side of the Detroit
> > metro area I get Cingular TDMA, GSM and AMPS also ATTWS TDMA and GSM
> > also T-Mobile GSDM also Microcell GSM and Bell Mobility AMPS(Canadian
> > carriers from Windsor, ON). I have a Nokia 6340i and travel all over
> > the country in my 18 wheeler rig and do have service almost everywhere I
> > go.
> >
>
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