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  1. #31
    William Bray
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    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    So many people called and sent e-mail to this chap that I doubt if he
    will make such a stupid mistake again. Just because you are a Federal
    judge doesn't mean that you are right.
    The President, knowing he may loose the next election, very happily
    signed the newest version of this bill.

    DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > In message <<[email protected]>> DevilsPGD
    > <[email protected]> did ramble:
    >
    > >Calling to tell him his ruling sucks is a reason. The fact that you've
    > >called before doesn't change the reason you're calling this time.

    >
    > btw, yes this is borderline harassment, and might well qualify as
    > harassment. IANAL, not even on TV.
    >
    > --
    > If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've had twice as much fun as you.


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



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  2. #32
    Dana
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    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    "William Bray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > So many people called and sent e-mail to this chap that I doubt if he
    > will make such a stupid mistake again. Just because you are a Federal
    > judge doesn't mean that you are right.
    > The President, knowing he may loose the next election, very happily
    > signed the newest version of this bill.



    Not likely will Bush loose the next election. But what will happen for the
    better of the country is more leftist democrats will be removed from office.
    The sooner the better. Time to get those leftists away from the power of DC,
    as all they the leftists are doing is destroying our country.
    Every day should be hit a leftist day.
    >
    > DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > In message <<[email protected]>> DevilsPGD
    > > <[email protected]> did ramble:
    > >
    > > >Calling to tell him his ruling sucks is a reason. The fact that you've
    > > >called before doesn't change the reason you're calling this time.

    > >
    > > btw, yes this is borderline harassment, and might well qualify as
    > > harassment. IANAL, not even on TV.
    > >
    > > --
    > > If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've

    had twice as much fun as you.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]






  3. #33
    127.0.0.1
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "Dana" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "William Bray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > So many people called and sent e-mail to this chap that I doubt if he
    > > will make such a stupid mistake again. Just because you are a Federal
    > > judge doesn't mean that you are right.
    > > The President, knowing he may loose the next election, very happily
    > > signed the newest version of this bill.


    history shows that every president that has taken the country into war has
    never been re-elected
    i'd like to see if this prophecy comes true

    > Not likely will Bush loose the next election. But what will happen for the
    > better of the country is more leftist democrats will be removed from

    office.
    > The sooner the better. Time to get those leftists away from the power of

    DC,
    > as all they the leftists are doing is destroying our country.
    > Every day should be hit a leftist day.


    does it really matter what party one votes for?
    would you ever have sex with a democrat?
    do you smoke?
    http://www.tobaccofree.org/cash.htm
    Phillip Morris owns republicans..
    blah blah blah..

    i vote for nude elections and mandatory shaved genitals





  4. #34
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    Interesting idea but all we got are Radicals Republicans now. Dead beat
    Democrates and Radicals pretending to be conservatives. Did I just step
    in some smelling stuff?

    "Dana" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > "William Bray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > So many people called and sent e-mail to this chap that I doubt if he
    > > will make such a stupid mistake again. Just because you are a Federal
    > > judge doesn't mean that you are right.
    > > The President, knowing he may loose the next election, very happily
    > > signed the newest version of this bill.

    >
    >
    > Not likely will Bush loose the next election. But what will happen for the
    > better of the country is more leftist democrats will be removed from office.
    > The sooner the better. Time to get those leftists away from the power of DC,
    > as all they the leftists are doing is destroying our country.
    > Every day should be hit a leftist day.
    > >
    > > DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > > In message <<[email protected]>> DevilsPGD
    > > > <[email protected]> did ramble:
    > > >
    > > > >Calling to tell him his ruling sucks is a reason. The fact that you've
    > > > >called before doesn't change the reason you're calling this time.
    > > >
    > > > btw, yes this is borderline harassment, and might well qualify as
    > > > harassment. IANAL, not even on TV.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've

    > had twice as much fun as you.
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  5. #35
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In alt.cellular Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Wow, that's a shock, some asshole leaves my tagline on a message along with
    > text the jerk I was arguing with, and you take his comments as what I
    > wrote?. I used to think you were an allright person, but your idiotic
    > statement shows what an asshole you are.


    Actually, I'm referring to your obnoxious reply to me implying that I must
    be some kind of un-American twit because I said you overreacted to the guy in
    Denver, who thinks that *the DNC law is not strong enough.*

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  6. #36
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "127.0.0.1" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >history shows that every president that has taken the country into war

    >has
    > >never been re-elected
    > >i'd like to see if this prophecy comes true

    >
    > Apparently history was _not_ your best subject. Lincoln, Wilson, and
    > F.D. Roosevelt immediately come to mind. Wilson may not truly belong on
    > the list because he took the US into WWI after his re-election, I'm
    > including him because his campaign slogan for the 1916 election was "He
    > kept us out of war".


    What's going on here? The same post from two different identities?

    Tom Veldhouse





  7. #37
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In alt.cellular Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Wow, that's a shock, some asshole leaves my tagline on a message along

    with
    > > text the jerk I was arguing with, and you take his comments as what I
    > > wrote?. I used to think you were an allright person, but your idiotic
    > > statement shows what an asshole you are.

    >
    > Actually, I'm referring to your obnoxious reply to me implying that I must
    > be some kind of un-American twit because I said you overreacted to the guy

    in
    > Denver, who thinks that *the DNC law is not strong enough.*
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net Internet & Multimedia Services
    > 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    > Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    > 888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * [email protected]


    Looking in my sent file I do NOT see anything that was sent by me, must be
    someone else that left my from line on there and you assumed it was me.





  8. #38
    127.0.0.1
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "127.0.0.1" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >history shows that every president that has taken the country into war

    >has
    > >never been re-elected
    > >i'd like to see if this prophecy comes true

    >
    > Apparently history was _not_ your best subject. Lincoln, Wilson, and
    > F.D. Roosevelt immediately come to mind. Wilson may not truly belong on
    > the list because he took the US into WWI after his re-election, I'm
    > including him because his campaign slogan for the 1916 election was "He
    > kept us out of war".


    yes you are correct. I should have rephrased and posted : history shows that
    every president that has taken the country into war has never fully served a
    re-election.
    very similar to the omen of each president elected in a "xxx0" meeting a
    horrible death. (in the case of Reagan, he survived the assassin's bullet).

    are the electors votes public? i'd like to know who the "unfaithful"
    electors are that messed up the last presidential election. (popular vote
    and electoral college votes didn't match up)





  9. #39
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In alt.cellular Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Looking in my sent file I do NOT see anything that was sent by me, must be
    > someone else that left my from line on there and you assumed it was me.


    If it was a forgery - and we're not talking about a misattributed quote here,
    we're talking about someone using "Peter Pan <[email protected]>" as
    the From: address on their posts - perhaps you should look into it. I will
    temporarily retract my previous statement until I can verify whether it was
    indeed you or not. If it wasn't, I apologize for jumping the gun. But I'll
    go look later.

    --
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  10. #40
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In alt.cellular Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Is that the one you mean? If so, note the smiley face used to signify
    > sarcasm/humor (at the end of the past.. I use while some others use <G>)


    I don't think so, but I have to go search Google Groups. Is your hotmail
    address deliverable (if I do the obvious to de-spam the address)?

    If so, if I find anything I will e-mail you - we're probably rather offtopic
    at this point.

    --
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  11. #41
    Colby Karrington
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    Paul,

    I understand where you are comming from about the racial slur, However
    it was ment to mean the illegal aliens, I have no problem with anyone
    who comes into the US legally by any means, However I do have a problem
    with the strain the illgeal aleins are putting on the US goverments
    (local, state, and federal) the outright refusal to learn english, The
    one thing I have always liked about other 1st world countries (not just
    Canada either) is you either speak the language, FLUENTLY, or you are
    not given a visa. The US is the only country I have ever dealt with in
    my life that will let people come across illegally, then give them
    drivers licenses?! What's with that!!??? I know several hispanics,
    mexican and not who have fount and gotten legal citizenship, it has
    taken them many years to do it, but in the same respect, I have met
    twice as many who come to the US, get cash, and go back to whatever
    country they came from, Be it Mexico, Cuba, Central & South America, as
    well as Greece, Italty or Poland, So it's not just a rip on Hispanics,
    although I see more hispanics and arabs than any other culture comming
    into the US for $ to return back to where they are from. I know one guy
    personally, and I gripe at him every day... he was a doctor in Mexico,
    is a bus boy here, and just wants the cash and is going back to Mexico.

    I think either way you slice it, it sucks for both sides, Mexican &
    Hispanics are getting a rep for taking over the country and taking jobs
    away, and the ones who are truly US citizens who were born and raised
    here with hispanic origins can't get a job because the ones willing to
    work for less than minium wage exist.

    Every political expert I know said that the job market would open in a
    new york second if the US passed a law that is the equivilent of
    Quebec's French First law... in Quebec *EVERYTHING* is in french, and
    you have to request, *IN FRENCH* to conduct any business in english..
    and the tongue police will shut businesses down for not having signs in
    french first, (PS...ATMS in Quebec are 100% French!!!, no back door for
    a english promt!)

    If the US went to a English *ONLY* system, those who were legal in this
    country would already understand enough english to survive, those who
    weren't would go back, or learn

    My great grandparents didn't speak english when they came here, but they
    learned, You're of hispanic origin, So yor family tree eventully learned
    english,

    The polish, irish, chinese and koreans have all learned english, to the
    best of their ability, they have learned to conduct business outside of
    their neighborhoods they have to learn english... Why can't the
    hispanics grasp that?

    The icing of the cake is when my lover, a 100% Mexican, parents
    immigrated legally, stood at the Chicago "Mexican Indipendance day
    parade" and yelled to these people in spanish to go back to Mexico he
    believes that while you should be proud of your heritiage, you sould
    only celebrate the indipendance of the country you are loyal to, and
    would join the military for... I celebrate July 1st, not July 4th, You
    do the math

    Colby
    --



    [email protected] (Paul Z. Delgado) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Well well... There are certain things that you have said that I do in
    > fact agree with, such as the fact that the U.S. is a country that has
    > established itself through aggression and warfare (i.e. the War for
    > Independence, etc.); but one thing you have to realize is that the
    > people that came over here from England were settlers coming to a
    > foreign land that was extremely dangerous and unforgiving. It came to be
    > in our nature to be good at warfare because most had to fight for their
    > mere existence in the early days. (BTW, I am in no way saying it was
    > right to wage all-out war on the American Indians and slaughter them,
    > however I am just stating the facts. There are reasons that the U.S. has
    > the "cowboy" attitude, whether they are perceived to be "good" reasons
    > or not.)
    >
    > The other statements you made in your posts have been well covered by
    > others, so I choose not to bother to comment on them in turn. However,
    > there is one comment you made that seems to have been overlooked by
    > everyone else...
    >
    > >And just remember. the US is a republic, because minority's >rights are protected in republics. that's why all the wet >backs are allowed in the US

    >
    > I am referring to your ridiculously bigoted treatment of Mexicans. You
    > are obviously gay, considering how you rant on and on about homosexuals'
    > rights being infringed upon by the US government and religious
    > institutions here in America. Your being a homosexual I have no issue
    > with; that is your right, your choice, your lifestyle. Fine. But how
    > dare you go on and on about how prejudiced this country is against
    > homosexuals, and then turn around and use a racial slur when referring
    > to Mexican people. This makes you look like a complete and total fool
    > who is incapable of applying the same reasoning you use, when discussing
    > your own rights as a homosexual, to the rights of racial minorities. I
    > am not a Mexican myself, but I am indeed Hispanic and I am proud of my
    > heritage. I am absolutely appalled by your total lack of decency by
    > using such an ignorant slur. Now, I am not the type of person who can't
    > take a joke here and there, I do not insist on people around me being
    > "politically correct" in everything they say; but when you go on and on
    > about how much you are suffering because the government in the US seems
    > to have a problem with letting two men marry, and then you say something
    > so ignorant about Mexicans... frankly, it pisses me off. You just made
    > yourself look stupid and bigoted, while complaining that the government
    > is bigoted towards gays.
    >
    > Congratulations, you have made a total ass of yourself. Please, do
    > refrain from posting to this newsgroup anymore. I find you repulsive and
    > ignorant... and not because of your sexuality.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Paul Z. Delgado
    > Wireless Consultant
    > Alltel, T-Mobile, Sprint PCS
    >
    > Wireless Plus
    > www.wirelessflorida.net
    > 813.977.8646
    >
    >
    > djdynasty815@dieyou****ingspammers.aol.com (Colby Karrington) wrote in
    > article <[email protected]>:
    > > I'm dual citizen anyways, I only use the US Citizenship for convience...
    > >
    > > go read your current events pages, gay & lesbians are moving to Canada
    > > by the ****loads.
    > >
    > >
    > > "127.0.0.1" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > >
    > > > "Colby Karrington" <djdynasty815@dieyou****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    > > > message news:[email protected]...
    > > > >
    > > > > By the way before you slam me for my reply, understand I am a Canadian,
    > > > > Secondly, the two contries have evolved in two different ways, but both
    > > > > comming from the same country (England) as persucuted religious beliefs
    > > > > (How screwed up can a religion be for the Brits to say "Get the ****
    > > > > out)
    > > > >
    > > > > the US became a country by fighting, by getting in everyones face,
    > > > > throwing weapons around, and confrontation, and to this day the US still
    > > > > see's that as it's only option to get things solved.
    > > >
    > > > try to take my freedom and i will join the NRA. there are just things worth
    > > > dying for.
    > > >
    > > > > Canada became a country by peace, commication, and neogation.
    > > >
    > > > and you think the USA had nothing to do with that, eh? i'm not a canadian
    > > > historian but i do know the british empire had many enemies to deal with,
    > > > that's why they lost the war with the americas.

    > > Ahh, but what your dumb ass doesn't realize is the Brits soldiers all
    > > went to Canada after the war, 99% of Canada's forming was by Citizens
    > > LOYAL to the crown, and it was because of loyality and PEACE that they
    > > granted Canada Comminwealth status in 1861, and then independant
    > > country, in 1982
    > >
    > > Now if you think about it, We've got a country that's 21 years old, that
    > > has more rights, and more fredoms for ALL it's citizens, including
    > > fredom of religion, and FREDOM FROM RELIGIOUS PERSUCUTION! Hmmmm that's
    > > what the churches do in the US... persucute the gays.
    > >
    > > Also, When it comes to the US... read your facts, they couldn't even get
    > > a decent constitution written until 10 years later. wrote 3 different
    > > versions, signed all 3 into law, the 3rd one is the one we actually use
    > > today.
    > >
    > > First one had no federal goverment, we were very much like the EU at
    > > that time, each state did it's own thing, with a shared tax system and
    > > currency, the second revision said how to collect for those taxes, and
    > > how to appoint heads of office for a small federal system
    > >
    > > 3rd revision said the brits were right, need a heavy federal goverment.
    > >
    > >
    > > And just remember. the US is a republic, because minority's rights are
    > > protected in republics. that's why all the wet backs are allowed in the
    > > US
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > > There is a difference between PEACE Keeping, and POLICING
    > > >
    > > > yes, there is a difference between keeping the peace and enforcing the laws.
    > > >
    > > > > Welcome to the US, You just lost every right known to man while we check
    > > > > your bags, do anal probes, blood tests, hair & urine samples... and
    > > > > that's just to get an apartment in Manhattan!
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > eh? you must be visiting our prison system. were you convicted of a crime?
    > > > go read some history books and check why there's a long line to become a
    > > > U.S. citizen.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  12. #42
    127.0.0.1
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "Colby Karrington" <djdynasty815@dieyou****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Paul,
    >
    > I understand where you are comming from about the racial slur, However
    > it was ment to mean the illegal aliens, I have no problem with anyone
    > who comes into the US legally by any means, However I do have a problem
    > with the strain the illgeal aleins are putting on the US goverments
    > (local, state, and federal) the outright refusal to learn english,


    why would they refuse to learn english?
    800,000 new citizens a year with a 1mil citizenship goal a year set by the
    immigration department.
    only 7% are illegal aliens. saw this on lou dobbs cnn last night.

    > The
    > one thing I have always liked about other 1st world countries (not just
    > Canada either) is you either speak the language, FLUENTLY, or you are
    > not given a visa. The US is the only country I have ever dealt with in
    > my life that will let people come across illegally, then give them
    > drivers licenses?! What's with that!!???


    can you provide a source for this? i beleive the border patrols are there
    for a reason.
    i doubt that illegal aliens will advertise themselves by getting a drivers
    license.

    >I know several hispanics,
    > mexican and not who have fount and gotten legal citizenship, it has
    > taken them many years to do it, but in the same respect, I have met
    > twice as many who come to the US, get cash, and go back to whatever
    > country they came from, Be it Mexico, Cuba, Central & South America, as
    > well as Greece, Italty or Poland, So it's not just a rip on Hispanics,
    > although I see more hispanics and arabs than any other culture comming
    > into the US for $ to return back to where they are from. I know one guy
    > personally, and I gripe at him every day... he was a doctor in Mexico,
    > is a bus boy here, and just wants the cash and is going back to Mexico.


    how ironic, a U.S. bus boy making more money than a Mexican doctor.

    > I think either way you slice it, it sucks for both sides, Mexican &
    > Hispanics are getting a rep for taking over the country and taking jobs
    > away,


    they are taking jobs that americans don't want to do... car wash, burger
    flippers, etc..

    >and the ones who are truly US citizens who were born and raised
    > here with hispanic origins can't get a job because the ones willing to
    > work for less than minium wage exist.


    i see alot of help wanted ads in the newspaper for unskilled workers. where
    do you live? i'll can research the job market for you.

    > Every political expert I know said that the job market would open in a
    > new york second if the US passed a law that is the equivilent of
    > Quebec's French First law... in Quebec *EVERYTHING* is in french, and
    > you have to request, *IN FRENCH* to conduct any business in english..
    > and the tongue police will shut businesses down for not having signs in
    > french first, (PS...ATMS in Quebec are 100% French!!!, no back door for
    > a english promt!)


    can you name a few personal political expert?
    what's the difference btw a NY second and a Florida second?
    freedom of speech isn't restricted to only english. good luck lobbying for a
    discriminary law.

    > If the US went to a English *ONLY* system, those who were legal in this
    > country would already understand enough english to survive, those who
    > weren't would go back, or learn


    they would still be working car washes.
    i hope you are making a distinction between literacy and language barriers.
    i know a number of illiterate english speaking welfare recipients.

    > My great grandparents didn't speak english when they came here, but they
    > learned, You're of hispanic origin, So yor family tree eventully learned
    > english,


    according to your complaint, your grandparents shouldn't have been here in
    the first place.

    > The polish, irish, chinese and koreans have all learned english, to the
    > best of their ability, they have learned to conduct business outside of
    > their neighborhoods they have to learn english... Why can't the
    > hispanics grasp that?


    in a global community, you will be surprised how many foreign nations teach
    english in their school systems
    remember the old joke: how can you tell an american? he only speaks one
    language.

    > The icing of the cake is when my lover, a 100% Mexican, parents
    > immigrated legally, stood at the Chicago "Mexican Indipendance day
    > parade" and yelled to these people in spanish to go back to Mexico he
    > believes that while you should be proud of your heritiage, you sould
    > only celebrate the indipendance of the country you are loyal to, and
    > would join the military for... I celebrate July 1st, not July 4th, You
    > do the math


    what are you saying? he doesn't have the right to free speech in public?

    > Colby


    living in a free country has it's disadvantages.
    one is you have the right to be miserable and ***** about it.





  13. #43
    Eric B.
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    Like I said before, Colby has some issues, Im not sure what all of them
    are but he sure is angry and is racist. The ignorance is just flowing
    from Colby like "non english speaking folk coming over the border" isnt
    that right Colby.
    Quit while you are ahead, there is no going back after the first post,
    racist, walk what you talk, didnt yo daddy teach you anything or at
    least any of your political experts. stop diggen that hole is getting
    pretty deep.

    "127.0.0.1" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "Colby Karrington" <djdynasty815@dieyou****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > Paul,
    > >
    > > I understand where you are comming from about the racial slur, However
    > > it was ment to mean the illegal aliens, I have no problem with anyone
    > > who comes into the US legally by any means, However I do have a problem
    > > with the strain the illgeal aleins are putting on the US goverments
    > > (local, state, and federal) the outright refusal to learn english,

    >
    > why would they refuse to learn english?
    > 800,000 new citizens a year with a 1mil citizenship goal a year set by the
    > immigration department.
    > only 7% are illegal aliens. saw this on lou dobbs cnn last night.
    >
    > > The
    > > one thing I have always liked about other 1st world countries (not just
    > > Canada either) is you either speak the language, FLUENTLY, or you are
    > > not given a visa. The US is the only country I have ever dealt with in
    > > my life that will let people come across illegally, then give them
    > > drivers licenses?! What's with that!!???

    >
    > can you provide a source for this? i beleive the border patrols are there
    > for a reason.
    > i doubt that illegal aliens will advertise themselves by getting a drivers
    > license.
    >
    > >I know several hispanics,
    > > mexican and not who have fount and gotten legal citizenship, it has
    > > taken them many years to do it, but in the same respect, I have met
    > > twice as many who come to the US, get cash, and go back to whatever
    > > country they came from, Be it Mexico, Cuba, Central & South America, as
    > > well as Greece, Italty or Poland, So it's not just a rip on Hispanics,
    > > although I see more hispanics and arabs than any other culture comming
    > > into the US for $ to return back to where they are from. I know one guy
    > > personally, and I gripe at him every day... he was a doctor in Mexico,
    > > is a bus boy here, and just wants the cash and is going back to Mexico.

    >
    > how ironic, a U.S. bus boy making more money than a Mexican doctor.
    >
    > > I think either way you slice it, it sucks for both sides, Mexican &
    > > Hispanics are getting a rep for taking over the country and taking jobs
    > > away,

    >
    > they are taking jobs that americans don't want to do... car wash, burger
    > flippers, etc..
    >
    > >and the ones who are truly US citizens who were born and raised
    > > here with hispanic origins can't get a job because the ones willing to
    > > work for less than minium wage exist.

    >
    > i see alot of help wanted ads in the newspaper for unskilled workers. where
    > do you live? i'll can research the job market for you.
    >
    > > Every political expert I know said that the job market would open in a
    > > new york second if the US passed a law that is the equivilent of
    > > Quebec's French First law... in Quebec *EVERYTHING* is in french, and
    > > you have to request, *IN FRENCH* to conduct any business in english..
    > > and the tongue police will shut businesses down for not having signs in
    > > french first, (PS...ATMS in Quebec are 100% French!!!, no back door for
    > > a english promt!)

    >
    > can you name a few personal political expert?
    > what's the difference btw a NY second and a Florida second?
    > freedom of speech isn't restricted to only english. good luck lobbying for a
    > discriminary law.
    >
    > > If the US went to a English *ONLY* system, those who were legal in this
    > > country would already understand enough english to survive, those who
    > > weren't would go back, or learn

    >
    > they would still be working car washes.
    > i hope you are making a distinction between literacy and language barriers.
    > i know a number of illiterate english speaking welfare recipients.
    >
    > > My great grandparents didn't speak english when they came here, but they
    > > learned, You're of hispanic origin, So yor family tree eventully learned
    > > english,

    >
    > according to your complaint, your grandparents shouldn't have been here in
    > the first place.
    >
    > > The polish, irish, chinese and koreans have all learned english, to the
    > > best of their ability, they have learned to conduct business outside of
    > > their neighborhoods they have to learn english... Why can't the
    > > hispanics grasp that?

    >
    > in a global community, you will be surprised how many foreign nations teach
    > english in their school systems
    > remember the old joke: how can you tell an american? he only speaks one
    > language.
    >
    > > The icing of the cake is when my lover, a 100% Mexican, parents
    > > immigrated legally, stood at the Chicago "Mexican Indipendance day
    > > parade" and yelled to these people in spanish to go back to Mexico he
    > > believes that while you should be proud of your heritiage, you sould
    > > only celebrate the indipendance of the country you are loyal to, and
    > > would join the military for... I celebrate July 1st, not July 4th, You
    > > do the math

    >
    > what are you saying? he doesn't have the right to free speech in public?
    >
    > > Colby

    >
    > living in a free country has it's disadvantages.
    > one is you have the right to be miserable and ***** about it.
    >
    >


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  14. #44
    Gustavo Sanchez
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    IS THIS A CELLULAR INFORMATION WEBSITE OR A POLITICAL SPEAK YOUR MIND
    WEBSITE?
    I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH SO I WILL SPEAK MY MIND. THERE IS A
    "POINT OF NO RETURN" YOU CAN'T STOP HISPANICS FROM COMING OVER TO
    AMERICA AND GETTING A PIECE OF THE PIE. YOU CAN'T STOP A WAIVE WHEN IS
    ALREADY COMING DOWN. YOU EITHER DEAL WITH IT OR YOU GET RUNNED OVER AND
    CRY. DON'T FORGET WE ARE IN THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY THAT IS THE REASON
    WE ARE HERE. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T MAKE MUCH OF THE OPP0RTUNITIES YOU HAVE
    BEEN GIVEN TO BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HISPANICS THAT COME HERE TO MAKE
    A BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.THEY KEY WORD IS "LIFE" AREN'T WE ALL
    ENTITLE TO A BETTER LIFE.

    GO CHIVAS!!!!
    --
    WirelessGus


    "127.0.0.1" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "Colby Karrington" <djdynasty815@dieyou****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > Paul,
    > >
    > > I understand where you are comming from about the racial slur, However
    > > it was ment to mean the illegal aliens, I have no problem with anyone
    > > who comes into the US legally by any means, However I do have a problem
    > > with the strain the illgeal aleins are putting on the US goverments
    > > (local, state, and federal) the outright refusal to learn english,

    >
    > why would they refuse to learn english?
    > 800,000 new citizens a year with a 1mil citizenship goal a year set by the
    > immigration department.
    > only 7% are illegal aliens. saw this on lou dobbs cnn last night.
    >
    > > The
    > > one thing I have always liked about other 1st world countries (not just
    > > Canada either) is you either speak the language, FLUENTLY, or you are
    > > not given a visa. The US is the only country I have ever dealt with in
    > > my life that will let people come across illegally, then give them
    > > drivers licenses?! What's with that!!???

    >
    > can you provide a source for this? i beleive the border patrols are there
    > for a reason.
    > i doubt that illegal aliens will advertise themselves by getting a drivers
    > license.
    >
    > >I know several hispanics,
    > > mexican and not who have fount and gotten legal citizenship, it has
    > > taken them many years to do it, but in the same respect, I have met
    > > twice as many who come to the US, get cash, and go back to whatever
    > > country they came from, Be it Mexico, Cuba, Central & South America, as
    > > well as Greece, Italty or Poland, So it's not just a rip on Hispanics,
    > > although I see more hispanics and arabs than any other culture comming
    > > into the US for $ to return back to where they are from. I know one guy
    > > personally, and I gripe at him every day... he was a doctor in Mexico,
    > > is a bus boy here, and just wants the cash and is going back to Mexico.

    >
    > how ironic, a U.S. bus boy making more money than a Mexican doctor.
    >
    > > I think either way you slice it, it sucks for both sides, Mexican &
    > > Hispanics are getting a rep for taking over the country and taking jobs
    > > away,

    >
    > they are taking jobs that americans don't want to do... car wash, burger
    > flippers, etc..
    >
    > >and the ones who are truly US citizens who were born and raised
    > > here with hispanic origins can't get a job because the ones willing to
    > > work for less than minium wage exist.

    >
    > i see alot of help wanted ads in the newspaper for unskilled workers. where
    > do you live? i'll can research the job market for you.
    >
    > > Every political expert I know said that the job market would open in a
    > > new york second if the US passed a law that is the equivilent of
    > > Quebec's French First law... in Quebec *EVERYTHING* is in french, and
    > > you have to request, *IN FRENCH* to conduct any business in english..
    > > and the tongue police will shut businesses down for not having signs in
    > > french first, (PS...ATMS in Quebec are 100% French!!!, no back door for
    > > a english promt!)

    >
    > can you name a few personal political expert?
    > what's the difference btw a NY second and a Florida second?
    > freedom of speech isn't restricted to only english. good luck lobbying for a
    > discriminary law.
    >
    > > If the US went to a English *ONLY* system, those who were legal in this
    > > country would already understand enough english to survive, those who
    > > weren't would go back, or learn

    >
    > they would still be working car washes.
    > i hope you are making a distinction between literacy and language barriers.
    > i know a number of illiterate english speaking welfare recipients.
    >
    > > My great grandparents didn't speak english when they came here, but they
    > > learned, You're of hispanic origin, So yor family tree eventully learned
    > > english,

    >
    > according to your complaint, your grandparents shouldn't have been here in
    > the first place.
    >
    > > The polish, irish, chinese and koreans have all learned english, to the
    > > best of their ability, they have learned to conduct business outside of
    > > their neighborhoods they have to learn english... Why can't the
    > > hispanics grasp that?

    >
    > in a global community, you will be surprised how many foreign nations teach
    > english in their school systems
    > remember the old joke: how can you tell an american? he only speaks one
    > language.
    >
    > > The icing of the cake is when my lover, a 100% Mexican, parents
    > > immigrated legally, stood at the Chicago "Mexican Indipendance day
    > > parade" and yelled to these people in spanish to go back to Mexico he
    > > believes that while you should be proud of your heritiage, you sould
    > > only celebrate the indipendance of the country you are loyal to, and
    > > would join the military for... I celebrate July 1st, not July 4th, You
    > > do the math

    >
    > what are you saying? he doesn't have the right to free speech in public?
    >
    > > Colby

    >
    > living in a free country has it's disadvantages.
    > one is you have the right to be miserable and ***** about it.
    >
    >


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  15. #45
    Clever Nickname
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    Colby wrote:

    > I understand where you are comming from about the racial slur, However
    > it was ment to mean the illegal aliens, I have no problem with anyone
    > who comes into the US legally by any means,


    <<snip>>

    So let me get this straight (no pun intended)... it's ok to use
    a racial slur as long as you are referring to mexicans who gain
    entrance to the country illegally... hmmmm.

    How can you ask for tolerance regarding sexual preference while
    displaying racial bigotry at the same time? Hypocrite.





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