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  1. #1
    RexYBlue
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    Phone: Nokia 6200
    I have IRDA, Serial and USB connectivity options.
    What software do I need and where can I get it?
    Thanks.



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    To email me, remove the zz.



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  2. #2
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    RexYBlue <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Phone: Nokia 6200
    > I have IRDA, Serial and USB connectivity options.
    > What software do I need and where can I get it?
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------
    > To email me, remove the zz.


    None, really, if you use IR. You just need to setup the laptop to use
    a "generic IR modem" and dial the data number for Cingular GPRS, which
    is probably *99#.

    Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    from Cingular, of course.



  3. #3
    Steve Vai
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    On 14 Nov 2003 11:26:41 -0800, [email protected] (Todd Allcock)
    wrote:

    >RexYBlue <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >> Phone: Nokia 6200
    >> I have IRDA, Serial and USB connectivity options.
    >> What software do I need and where can I get it?
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> ----------------------------
    >> To email me, remove the zz.

    >
    >None, really, if you use IR. You just need to setup the laptop to use
    >a "generic IR modem" and dial the data number for Cingular GPRS, which
    >is probably *99#.
    >
    >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    >from Cingular, of course.


    naturally....

    it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,
    cingular has a special charge for this u know....



  4. #4
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    > >from Cingular, of course.

    >
    > naturally....
    >
    > it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,


    Correct. Cellular, you may have realized, is NOT a landline.

    > cingular has a special charge for this u know....


    Everyone charges extra for higher-speed data, Steve. We all know you
    think Cingular is in league in Satan, but charging for GPRS is
    standard in the industry.



  5. #5
    Slacker
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?


    > >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    > >from Cingular, of course.

    >
    > naturally....
    >
    > it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,
    > cingular has a special charge for this u know....


    I use IR to connect my palm handheld computer to the net and I called
    cingular and asked if I was only using my minutes and they said yes. Why
    would one to to pay for a data plan if connecting with a laptop?





  6. #6
    Steve Vai
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:38:42 GMT, "Slacker"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >> >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    >> >from Cingular, of course.

    >>
    >> naturally....
    >>
    >> it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,
    >> cingular has a special charge for this u know....

    >
    >I use IR to connect my palm handheld computer to the net and I called
    >cingular and asked if I was only using my minutes and they said yes. Why
    >would one to to pay for a data plan if connecting with a laptop?
    >


    ask all cock, but does cingular just charge u minutes if you're doing
    this on the weekend and using your 3000 N/W mins ?



  7. #7
    Steve Vai
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    On 14 Nov 2003 22:07:37 -0800, [email protected] (Todd Allcock)
    wrote:

    >Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    >> >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    >> >from Cingular, of course.

    >>
    >> naturally....
    >>
    >> it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,

    >
    >Correct. Cellular, you may have realized, is NOT a landline.


    correct but you may have realized both charge you per minute, landline
    doesnt care if it is data or voice....cellular does.

    >
    >> cingular has a special charge for this u know....

    >
    >Everyone charges extra for higher-speed data, Steve. We all know you
    >think Cingular is in league in Satan, but charging for GPRS is
    >standard in the industry.


    SINgular is satan but thats beside the point, refer to the guy above's
    post and explain that... i guess it depends, if cingular doesnt know
    you are using it for the net they dont charge u, but if u call and ask
    if u can they'll add a package onto your ****in account....




  8. #8
    Slacker
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?


    "Steve Vai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:38:42 GMT, "Slacker"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >> >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    > >> >from Cingular, of course.
    > >>
    > >> naturally....
    > >>
    > >> it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,
    > >> cingular has a special charge for this u know....

    > >
    > >I use IR to connect my palm handheld computer to the net and I called
    > >cingular and asked if I was only using my minutes and they said yes. Why
    > >would one to to pay for a data plan if connecting with a laptop?
    > >

    >
    > ask all cock, but does cingular just charge u minutes if you're doing
    > this on the weekend and using your 3000 N/W mins ?


    I called 611 and asked the person and they seemed familiar with using the
    cell phone as a modem and clearly stated that if I was connected during my
    anytime minutes I would just use those and if it was during nights and
    weekend I would be using night and weekend minutes. Other people in the
    group here have confirmed it so I guess I will know for sure when the next
    bill gets here.





  9. #9
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On 14 Nov 2003 22:07:37 -0800, [email protected] (Todd Allcock)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > >
    > >> >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    > >> >from Cingular, of course.
    > >>
    > >> naturally....
    > >>
    > >> it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,

    > >
    > >Correct. Cellular, you may have realized, is NOT a landline.

    >
    > correct but you may have realized both charge you per minute, landline
    > doesnt care if it is data or voice....cellular does.


    Steve, landline companies don't care because they don't have to do
    anything differently- cellular companies do.

    I'll try to blast through your bitterness and get right to your
    ignorance. Might be hard...

    Regardless of what the owner's manual of one's shiny new cell phone
    might hint, NO digital cellphone actually has a modem in it- at least
    not a modem in the traditional sense. Instead, they have software
    that lets them exchange data with cellular providers.

    When you make a modem call on a landline, your modem talks directly
    with another modem. With a cellphone, you (your PDA, your laptop, the
    WAP browser in the phone, etc.) sends and receives data with the
    cellphone company who needs to use one of their modems (or a broadband
    connection) to conect for you. So everytime you make a cellphone
    modem call to your own ISP, the cellphone company lets you "borrow"
    one of their real analog modems to make the connection.

    So, in order for your account to have "permission" to "borrow" a modem
    when needed, you have to have the data option added to your account.
    When I was with Cingular, they added this option for free to anybody
    who asked, but since then they were charging $3.99/month for that
    option, but it also included the use of Cingular as an ISP, so you
    didn't need your own. Any data calls you make come out of your plan
    minutes. Based on this thread, it sounds like Cingular doesn't charge
    the $4 anymore.

    The discussion above relates to "CSD" or Circuit-Switch Data- a slow
    9.6kbps data method. You can also pay extra for faster "GPRS" data,
    But that's charged by the KB, not by using minutes.
    > >> cingular has a special charge for this u know....


    > >Everyone charges extra for higher-speed data, Steve. We all know you
    > >think Cingular is in league in Satan, but charging for GPRS is
    > >standard in the industry.

    >
    > SINgular is satan but thats beside the point, refer to the guy above's
    > post and explain that... i guess it depends, if cingular doesnt know
    > you are using it for the net they dont charge u, but if u call and ask
    > if u can they'll add a package onto your ****in account....


    If you read what I wrote above, you cannot make cellular data calls
    without a cell provider "knowing about it" since their data equipment
    at headquarters is required to make the call!

    For example, AT&T doesn't support CSD calls at all. They don't give
    customers access to a direct-dialed modem line. All data w/AT&T is
    charged per KB. T-Mobile, like Cingular, allows both, based on the
    customer's choice and need.



  10. #10
    Steve Vai
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:48:00 GMT, "Slacker"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Steve Vai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:38:42 GMT, "Slacker"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >> >Also, you WILL need to subscribe to a data plan add-on of some type
    >> >> >from Cingular, of course.
    >> >>
    >> >> naturally....
    >> >>
    >> >> it's not like u can just use airtime to go online like a landline,
    >> >> cingular has a special charge for this u know....
    >> >
    >> >I use IR to connect my palm handheld computer to the net and I called
    >> >cingular and asked if I was only using my minutes and they said yes. Why
    >> >would one to to pay for a data plan if connecting with a laptop?
    >> >

    >>
    >> ask all cock, but does cingular just charge u minutes if you're doing
    >> this on the weekend and using your 3000 N/W mins ?

    >
    >I called 611 and asked the person and they seemed familiar with using the
    >cell phone as a modem and clearly stated that if I was connected during my
    >anytime minutes I would just use those and if it was during nights and
    >weekend I would be using night and weekend minutes. Other people in the
    >group here have confirmed it so I guess I will know for sure when the next
    >bill gets here.
    >



    interesting, allcock appears to be saying u cant do it but you appear
    to have, i dunno...



  11. #11
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > interesting, allcock appears to be saying u cant do it but you appear
    > to have, i dunno...


    No, Allcock simply said you have to have a data plan- not that you
    have to PAY for one. As I stated, when I was with Cingular, the CSD
    option (what Cingular calls "Wireless Internet"- not "Wireless
    Internet Express") was free to any customer with a data-compatible
    handset. But until I called and requested the data plan, the "modem"
    in my phone didn't work.

    Now I was with Cingular in Kansas City, which was TDMA at the time.
    Perhaps Cingular automatically turns data on for GSM? (T-Mobile does-
    all customers get the CSD option turned on by default- you don't have
    to request it.)



  12. #12
    Steve Vai
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    On 16 Nov 2003 21:36:47 -0800, [email protected] (Todd Allcock)
    wrote:

    >Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    >> interesting, allcock appears to be saying u cant do it but you appear
    >> to have, i dunno...

    >
    >No, Allcock simply said you have to have a data plan- not that you
    >have to PAY for one. As I stated, when I was with Cingular, the CSD
    >option (what Cingular calls "Wireless Internet"- not "Wireless
    >Internet Express") was free to any customer with a data-compatible
    >handset. But until I called and requested the data plan, the "modem"
    >in my phone didn't work.
    >
    >Now I was with Cingular in Kansas City, which was TDMA at the time.
    >Perhaps Cingular automatically turns data on for GSM? (T-Mobile does-
    >all customers get the CSD option turned on by default- you don't have
    >to request it.)


    i see....



  13. #13
    Scott Seidman
    Guest

    Re: Internet Connection via Phone from Laptop. How?

    [email protected] (Todd Allcock) wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    >> interesting, allcock appears to be saying u cant do it but you appear
    >> to have, i dunno...

    >
    > No, Allcock simply said you have to have a data plan- not that you
    > have to PAY for one. As I stated, when I was with Cingular, the CSD
    > option (what Cingular calls "Wireless Internet"- not "Wireless
    > Internet Express") was free to any customer with a data-compatible
    > handset. But until I called and requested the data plan, the "modem"
    > in my phone didn't work.
    >
    > Now I was with Cingular in Kansas City, which was TDMA at the time.
    > Perhaps Cingular automatically turns data on for GSM? (T-Mobile does-
    > all customers get the CSD option turned on by default- you don't have
    > to request it.)


    Cingular (after having me on hold for a long time) just told me there is no
    CSD option for the GSM phones, just GPRS. I think they just offered me
    wrong info. Is this true?

    Scott



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