Which Way Would You Jump?

I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones that
work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make the
jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition deal
plays out

My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional type
service plan.

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In alt.cellular.verizon Scott in Aztl?n <[email protected]> wrote:

> My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
> Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional type
> service plan.

If it was me, and I was choosing between Cingular and AT&T, there would be
no choice. I am 100% free of SBC now that I don't live in an area where they
are the ILEC, and I would never do business with them as they are a bunch of
thieving scumbags.

By extension, since I live in California, that also means no T-Mobile.

If I had to choose, it would be AT&T.

(Of course, I'm not impressed with them either. About a month ago I went
into their Victorville, California retail store just to check it out, and
they were out of almost all the models they normally carry.)


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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:56 -0800, Scott in Aztlán
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
>Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones that
>work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make the
>jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition deal
>plays out

>My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
>Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional type
>service plan.

Depends on where you live, where you travel, what your usage pattern
is, and who'd be the better carrier based on all those criteria. You
DON'T choose the carrier based on the phone you can use on their
network. (People who do tend to become disgruntled customers.)

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:20:44 GMT, Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:

>DON'T choose the carrier based on the phone you can use on their
>network. (People who do tend to become disgruntled customers.)

Well, that's the strategy I followed when choosing Verizon, and look what it got
me: a cellular provider that doesn't sell any Bluetooth phones for use on their
system.

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Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
- Friedrich von Schiller

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:56 -0800, Scott in Aztlán
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL.

is that kinda like that onstar commercial where the moron calls and
says "what does the white button do?" and the lady says "for handsfree
calling" and he nearly has an orgasm on the phone cause he can push a
button and talk?

> >DON'T choose the carrier based on the phone you can use on their
> >network. (People who do tend to become disgruntled customers.)
>
> Well, that's the strategy I followed when choosing Verizon, and look what
it got
> me: a cellular provider that doesn't sell any Bluetooth phones for use on
their
> system.

The incumbent 800Mhz carriers are the best bet.

Either verizon and ATT, cigular, or x company.
Or X company and ATT or cingular.
Or X company and Y company.

Go to XFF's maps.
http://n9wos.home.att.net/cell/xff/regions.html
And see who they are.

If that doesn't turn up anything useable, then go
to the PCS carriers.
(ie)If you are in California, that would be cingular, or ...(on and on).

They can be found at
http://www.wirelessadvisor.com
Just type in your zip and it should give the companies that
is licensed to operate in your area.

"Scott in Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
> Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones
that
> work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make
the
> jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition
deal
> plays out
>
> My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
> Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional
type
> service plan.
>
> --
> Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
> - Friedrich von Schiller


Not being in that area, I don't know. Do some research and see who has the
best coverage. The T616 itself is probably cheaper with AT&T, but in my
area, cingular has considerably better coverage.

"Scott in Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:20:44 GMT, Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >DON'T choose the carrier based on the phone you can use on their
> >network. (People who do tend to become disgruntled customers.)
>
> Well, that's the strategy I followed when choosing Verizon, and look what
it got
> me: a cellular provider that doesn't sell any Bluetooth phones for use on
their
> system.
>
> --
> Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
> - Friedrich von Schiller

I can't understand the myopic view some people have, why not just buy the
phone you want and activate it on your current service? Why does the carrier
have to sell the phone you want so you can save a few bucks? You can't be
broke or you wouldn't be buying a new car.

Come to think of it, you can get Bluetooth receivers with a 2.5 MM jack that
plugs into any cellphone with a rechargeable wireless headset that you can
use both in the car, and outside of the car with the rechargeable wireless
headset. (in case you can't find em at a high priced store, they are even on
sale at radioshack for $129 (regular $179.99 go to http://www.radioshack.com
and type bluetooth into search criteria)

> I can't understand the myopic view some people have,

Maybe his view is a side effect of verizon's myopic(narrow minded) view.

> why not just buy the
> phone you want and activate it on your current service? Why does the
carrier
> have to sell the phone you want so you can save a few bucks?

Please read his previous post on the NG.
The choice of bluetooth capable CDMA phones is almost
non existent.
He even went to the 270c (which is discontinued)
to try and get one, he found that it wouldn't work because
it was too old.

>You can't be
> broke or you wouldn't be buying a new car.

He has already spent money on the 270, and a lot of
his time trying to get the BT stuff straitened out, so
I don't think money is that primary factor in this.
He wants a phone that will work with his car,
Nothing more, nothing less.

> Come to think of it, you can get Bluetooth receivers with a 2.5 MM jack
that
> plugs into any cellphone with a rechargeable wireless headset that you can
> use both in the car, and outside of the car with the rechargeable wireless
> headset. (in case you can't find em at a high priced store, they are even
on
> sale at radioshack for $129 (regular $179.99 go to
http://www.radioshack.com
> and type bluetooth into search criteria)

But that doesn't solve his original problem.
Getting a bluetooth phone to work with his car.

"Scott in Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:20:44 GMT, Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >DON'T choose the carrier based on the phone you can use on their
> >network.
>
> Well, that's the strategy I followed when choosing Verizon, and look what
it got
> me: a cellular provider that doesn't sell any Bluetooth phones for use on
their
> system.

Couldn't you simply get one of those headset jack to bluetooth "transmitter"
adapters that claim to allow you to "use a bluetooth headset on any phone!"
I think CompUSA sells them.

Certainly a new phone would solve the problem, but if you're happy with your
phone and service otherwise...

In article <[email protected]>,
Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:

> If it was me, and I was choosing between Cingular and AT&T, there would be
> no choice. I am 100% free of SBC now that I don't live in an area where they
> are the ILEC, and I would never do business with them as they are a bunch of
> thieving scumbags.

And you think anyone else is better?

You're living in a dream world.

Fact: you have to have telecom services. Fact: all telecom service
providers are thieving scumbags.

Ergo, fact: you WILL be doing business, by definition, with thieving
scumbags. Period.

"Scott in Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
> Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones
that
> work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make
the
> jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition
deal
> plays out
>
> My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
> Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional
type
> service plan.

I would see which, if either, of them currently offer 800 Mhz TDMA in your
area.
Eventually they will convert their 800 Mhz TDMA to 800 Mhz GSM, which will
solve many of the GSM coverage problems.

In my area I'd go with AT&T.

In article <[email protected]>,
Scott in Aztlán <newsgroup> wrote:
>I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
>Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones that
>work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make the
>jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition deal
>plays out
>
>My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
>Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional type
>service plan.

My guess is that the AT&T phones are GSM, and AT&T's GSM service is
terrible. Cingular is actually decent in Southern California, where
you are.


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If you want to stay with Verizon, you could purchase the JABRA FreeSpeak
Bluetooth Wireless Mobile Headset. It Works with non-Bluetooth mobile
phones by using a plug-in type adapter to transmit the Bluetooth signal.

Bluetooth has been heavily debated and there has been numerous articles that
indicated Bluetooth is not long for existence. At any rate, this headset
adapter might allow you to stay with Verizon and use it in your car.

It's sold at Radio Shack as catalog #17-976
$179.99



"Scott in Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
> Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones
that
> work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make
the
> jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition
deal
> plays out
>
> My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
> Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional
type
> service plan.
>
> --
> Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
> - Friedrich von Schiller

You might try the JABRA® FreeSpeakT BluetoothT Wireless Mobile Headset. It
works with non-BluetoothT mobile phones using the same multi-function
holder/charger used for BluetoothT phones. This adapter would allow you to
stay with Verizon and use the phone in your car. It's sold at Radio Shack
for $179.99. Catalog #17-976


"Scott in Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
> Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones
that
> work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make
the
> jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition
deal
> plays out
>
> My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
> Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional
type
> service plan.
>
> --
> Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
> - Friedrich von Schiller