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  1. #1
    Trimodeman
    Guest
    I went by both a Cingular location and a Verizon one today here in NC. The
    Cingular location was deserted while the Verizon one was booming. I will bet
    it is all those disgruntled Cingular customers porting their numbers to
    Verizon. Face it, at least in the Carolinas, Cingular's coverage area is
    very limited compared to Verizon and Alltel (Cingular's is mostly in big
    cities and along major highways- get several miles away from a highway in
    the country and you might as well be carrying a brick- Verizon and Alltel
    are much better), customers complain repeatedly of big holes even in
    Cingular's markets, dropped calls, horrible customer service, etc. If you
    are in the Carolinas, either go with VZW or Alltel, both great choices.
    Stay away from Cingular.





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  2. #2
    N9WOS
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    > I went by both a Cingular location and a Verizon one today here in NC.
    The
    > Cingular location was deserted while the Verizon one was booming. I will

    bet
    > it is all those disgruntled Cingular customers porting their numbers to
    > Verizon. Face it, at least in the Carolinas, Cingular's coverage area is
    > very limited compared to Verizon and Alltel (Cingular's is mostly in big
    > cities and along major highways- get several miles away from a highway in
    > the country and you might as well be carrying a brick- Verizon and Alltel
    > are much better), customers complain repeatedly of big holes even in
    > Cingular's markets, dropped calls, horrible customer service, etc. If you
    > are in the Carolinas, either go with VZW or Alltel, both great choices.
    > Stay away from Cingular.


    I have to agree, it is a good idea to stay away from a carrier that
    only has 1.9Ghz coverage in your area.

    Same reason I stay away from ATT in my area.
    They only have PCS coverage

    Same reason someone should stay away from cingular
    in California. They only have PCS coverage.

    Same reason someone should stay away from verizon
    in Florida. They only have PCS coverage.

    Same reason why anyone should stay away from sprint PCS.

    Now that I think about it, I wonder how verizon is fairing in Florida.
    I don't think they will be doing a brisk business around there. :-P
    Anyone that does switch to verizon down there will probably be
    real pissed off when they find what they got themselves into.
    Oww......well.... I guess I will see some more "Verizon sucks"
    websites coming in the near future. :-)





  3. #3
    Thomas M. Goethe
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    VZW is not bad in Tampa. Not quite as good as Alltel in my immediate
    neighborhood (I have both), but I have had few problems with it. Same phone
    on both, a T720. We do have some Alltel problems during rush hour when we
    can't get through.

    Didn't make it into a VZW store, but the Nextel guy at Office Despot was
    slow and the Alltel stores were pretty normal.


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe

    "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > I went by both a Cingular location and a Verizon one today here in NC.

    > The
    > > Cingular location was deserted while the Verizon one was booming. I will

    > bet
    > > it is all those disgruntled Cingular customers porting their numbers to
    > > Verizon. Face it, at least in the Carolinas, Cingular's coverage area

    is
    > > very limited compared to Verizon and Alltel (Cingular's is mostly in big
    > > cities and along major highways- get several miles away from a highway

    in
    > > the country and you might as well be carrying a brick- Verizon and

    Alltel
    > > are much better), customers complain repeatedly of big holes even in
    > > Cingular's markets, dropped calls, horrible customer service, etc. If

    you
    > > are in the Carolinas, either go with VZW or Alltel, both great choices.
    > > Stay away from Cingular.

    >
    > I have to agree, it is a good idea to stay away from a carrier that
    > only has 1.9Ghz coverage in your area.
    >
    > Same reason I stay away from ATT in my area.
    > They only have PCS coverage
    >
    > Same reason someone should stay away from cingular
    > in California. They only have PCS coverage.
    >
    > Same reason someone should stay away from verizon
    > in Florida. They only have PCS coverage.
    >
    > Same reason why anyone should stay away from sprint PCS.
    >
    > Now that I think about it, I wonder how verizon is fairing in Florida.
    > I don't think they will be doing a brisk business around there. :-P
    > Anyone that does switch to verizon down there will probably be
    > real pissed off when they find what they got themselves into.
    > Oww......well.... I guess I will see some more "Verizon sucks"
    > websites coming in the near future. :-)
    >
    >






  4. #4
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    "Trimodeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I went by both a Cingular location and a Verizon one today here in NC. The
    > Cingular location was deserted while the Verizon one was booming. I will bet
    > it is all those disgruntled Cingular customers porting their numbers to
    > Verizon.


    QUICK! Sell your SBC stock! A Cingular store in North Carolina's
    having a slow day...

    For the gazillionth time, why are many folks here acting like Nov.24th
    was the first day anybody was ever allowed to switch cellular
    carriers?

    Sure, SOME people will be enticed to switch because they can keep
    their number, but that number is relatively all compared to the number
    of people who hop carriers every time their contract is up.

    So, if Cingular sucks in your area as badly as you say,

    A) most of their disgruntled customers would have already switched,
    even if it meant changing numbers, and...

    B) EVERYDAY is a slow day at the store! The better carriers' stores
    in a given area are always busier!

    In Kansas City where I was a Cingular customer and agent Cingular had
    the best coverage. They were the 800Hz wireline carrier (Southwestern
    Bell), and Verizon bought the competing A-side carrier, a Cellular One
    franchise.

    > Face it, at least in the Carolinas, Cingular's coverage area is
    > very limited compared to Verizon and Alltel (Cingular's is mostly in big
    > cities and along major highways- get several miles away from a highway in
    > the country and you might as well be carrying a brick- Verizon and Alltel
    > are much better), customers complain repeatedly of big holes even in
    > Cingular's markets, dropped calls, horrible customer service, etc. If you
    > are in the Carolinas, either go with VZW or Alltel, both great choices.
    > Stay away from Cingular.


    Depends on needs and pricing, I guess. Isn't Cingular quite a bit
    cheaper than both VW and Alltel?

    I'm now doing something I never thought I'd do- using a 1900MHz-only
    PCS carrier (T-Mo). I've traded extensive coverage for cheap
    minuteand cheaper data, and I'm fine with it. I have a TDMA/analog
    phone in the car for "emergencies" in case I end up somewhere T-Mo
    doesn't go.

    If you stick to the highways, I suppose even NC's Cingular service is
    adequate. (I hope so- that's what my T-Mo would roam on if I ever get
    out that way!) ;-)



  5. #5
    Trimodeman
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    I was talking about the Carolinas. I agree that it wiull ultimately depend
    on your market where you live. Here, VZW and Alltel are the 800MHz
    providers in the Carolinas and I do think that gives them an edge in terms
    of signal quality. However, if you look at coverage maps here, Cingular's
    depth of coverage is very spotty.

    Also, nationally the consumer satisfaction surveys show that in most major
    markets Cingular is at the very bottom, with very unhappy customers, with
    Verizon at or near the top. So, while you might like Cingular in your
    market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your unobjective
    ranting (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    parents did a poor job raising you, you are uneducated, or if educated, much
    have cheated), say just the opposite.


    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Trimodeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I went by both a Cingular location and a Verizon one today here in NC.

    The
    > > Cingular location was deserted while the Verizon one was booming. I will

    bet
    > > it is all those disgruntled Cingular customers porting their numbers to
    > > Verizon.

    >
    > QUICK! Sell your SBC stock! A Cingular store in North Carolina's
    > having a slow day...
    >
    > For the gazillionth time, why are many folks here acting like Nov.24th
    > was the first day anybody was ever allowed to switch cellular
    > carriers?
    >
    > Sure, SOME people will be enticed to switch because they can keep
    > their number, but that number is relatively all compared to the number
    > of people who hop carriers every time their contract is up.
    >
    > So, if Cingular sucks in your area as badly as you say,
    >
    > A) most of their disgruntled customers would have already switched,
    > even if it meant changing numbers, and...
    >
    > B) EVERYDAY is a slow day at the store! The better carriers' stores
    > in a given area are always busier!
    >
    > In Kansas City where I was a Cingular customer and agent Cingular had
    > the best coverage. They were the 800Hz wireline carrier (Southwestern
    > Bell), and Verizon bought the competing A-side carrier, a Cellular One
    > franchise.
    >
    > > Face it, at least in the Carolinas, Cingular's coverage area is
    > > very limited compared to Verizon and Alltel (Cingular's is mostly in big
    > > cities and along major highways- get several miles away from a highway

    in
    > > the country and you might as well be carrying a brick- Verizon and

    Alltel
    > > are much better), customers complain repeatedly of big holes even in
    > > Cingular's markets, dropped calls, horrible customer service, etc. If

    you
    > > are in the Carolinas, either go with VZW or Alltel, both great choices.
    > > Stay away from Cingular.

    >
    > Depends on needs and pricing, I guess. Isn't Cingular quite a bit
    > cheaper than both VW and Alltel?
    >
    > I'm now doing something I never thought I'd do- using a 1900MHz-only
    > PCS carrier (T-Mo). I've traded extensive coverage for cheap
    > minuteand cheaper data, and I'm fine with it. I have a TDMA/analog
    > phone in the car for "emergencies" in case I end up somewhere T-Mo
    > doesn't go.
    >
    > If you stick to the highways, I suppose even NC's Cingular service is
    > adequate. (I hope so- that's what my T-Mo would roam on if I ever get
    > out that way!) ;-)






  6. #6
    N9WOS
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    > So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your unobjective
    > ranting (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > parents did a poor job raising you, you are uneducated, or if educated,

    much
    > have cheated), say just the opposite.


    And you dropping to personal attacks makes your opinion
    worth far less than his opinion, in my mind.

    And I also consider it as trolling.
    So I will not entertain this discussion any further.







  7. #7
    Trimodeman
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    He made it personal.
    "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your

    unobjective
    > > ranting (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > > parents did a poor job raising you, you are uneducated, or if educated,

    > much
    > > have cheated), say just the opposite.

    >
    > And you dropping to personal attacks makes your opinion
    > worth far less than his opinion, in my mind.
    >
    > And I also consider it as trolling.
    > So I will not entertain this discussion any further.
    >
    >
    >
    >






  8. #8
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    Trimodeman wrote:

    > I was talking about the Carolinas. I agree that it wiull ultimately depend
    > on your market where you live. Here, VZW and Alltel are the 800MHz
    > providers in the Carolinas and I do think that gives them an edge in terms
    > of signal quality. However, if you look at coverage maps here, Cingular's
    > depth of coverage is very spotty.
    >
    > Also, nationally the consumer satisfaction surveys show that in most major
    > markets Cingular is at the very bottom, with very unhappy customers, with
    > Verizon at or near the top. So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your unobjective
    > ranting (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > parents did a poor job raising you, you are uneducated, or if educated,
    > much have cheated), say just the opposite.
    >
    >


    I thing to keep in mind- while Trimodeman is right on point about Verizon
    being at the top of the pile with regards to Customer Service, keep in mind
    that best, in this case, still has a Customer Satisfaction rating of less
    than 70%. Nobody in the industry has what a normal person would call
    'great customer service'- the best are just above the others. Kind of like
    being 'tallest of the pygmies'.




  9. #9
    Trimodeman
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    Agreed. The whole industry has a long way to go. I hope there will come a
    day when it is impossible to tell whether you are on a cell phone or a
    landline.

    Switching gears, is anyone familiar with how good (or bad) the voice quality
    with voice over IP provider Vonage is? I am thinking about moving my
    business lines to that but would like views on the quality.


    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Trimodeman wrote:
    >
    > > I was talking about the Carolinas. I agree that it wiull ultimately

    depend
    > > on your market where you live. Here, VZW and Alltel are the 800MHz
    > > providers in the Carolinas and I do think that gives them an edge in

    terms
    > > of signal quality. However, if you look at coverage maps here,

    Cingular's
    > > depth of coverage is very spotty.
    > >
    > > Also, nationally the consumer satisfaction surveys show that in most

    major
    > > markets Cingular is at the very bottom, with very unhappy customers,

    with
    > > Verizon at or near the top. So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your

    unobjective
    > > ranting (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > > parents did a poor job raising you, you are uneducated, or if educated,
    > > much have cheated), say just the opposite.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > I thing to keep in mind- while Trimodeman is right on point about Verizon
    > being at the top of the pile with regards to Customer Service, keep in

    mind
    > that best, in this case, still has a Customer Satisfaction rating of less
    > than 70%. Nobody in the industry has what a normal person would call
    > 'great customer service'- the best are just above the others. Kind of

    like
    > being 'tallest of the pygmies'.
    >






  10. #10
    Aboutdakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    > He made it personal.

    How so? Provide an example and explanation. I read his post and feel
    that it was a valid point. If Cingular is that bad there, most people
    who hate Cingular are already avoiding it.

    AD




  11. #11
    JRW
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    Trimodeman wrote:

    > I am thinking about moving my
    > business lines to that but would like views on the quality.


    Tried that. We hosed the Cisco phone sets with DOS attacks.




  12. #12
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    "Trimodeman" <t[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I was talking about the Carolinas. I agree that it wiull ultimately depend
    > on your market where you live.


    Yet you titled this thread you started "Cingular Hurting Bad on
    Portability," (which may or may not be true, but certainly unsupported
    by your post)- not "Cingular in Carolinas Hurting..." (also
    unsupported by your anecdotal evidence) or "Cingular Hurting in East
    Undershirt, NC" or wherever (a tenable argument given your exhaustive
    drive-by research.)

    > Here, VZW and Alltel are the 800MHz
    > providers in the Carolinas and I do think that gives them an edge in terms
    > of signal quality. However, if you look at coverage maps here, Cingular's
    > depth of coverage is very spotty.


    I don't doubt it. Again, my problem was your condemnation of a
    carrier's entire network by it's service in your area.

    > Also, nationally the consumer satisfaction surveys show that in most major
    > markets Cingular is at the very bottom, with very unhappy customers, with
    > Verizon at or near the top. So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your unobjective
    > ranting


    One such "survey" who's link was posted here a month or two ago showed
    the spread between the top carriers within 2-3 percentage points of
    each other, and Sprint, not Cingular, at the bottom.


    > (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > parents did a poor job raising you


    You're insulting my PARENTS knowing nothing about them and I'm the one
    shortchanged in my upbringing?

    I could point out a similar defect in your upbringing, since your
    parents, or your education, didn't teach you the difference between
    "speak" and "write."
    To explain briefly, the latter is apparently a method to express a
    thought on Usenet with a free e-mail account that basic decorum would
    prefent you from expressing face-to-face in the former.

    >, you are uneducated, or if educated, much
    > have cheated), say just the opposite.


    Perhaps- or perhaps I simply allow myself the luxury of bending the
    rules of proper English when responding to obvious trolling or
    baiting.

    Now, after sadly having sunk to your level of personal attack, let me
    ask you a question. First, the background: I recently moved to a
    suburb in a valley southwest of Denver. Despite my usual preference
    for 800MHz carriers, neither AT&T or Verizon (Denver's A and B license
    carriers) work in my neighborhood, yet three 1900MHz ones do (T-Mo,
    Qwest and Sprint.) Now the question: which would be the best title
    for my next post to the Verizon NG:

    Verizon has No Service!,

    Verizon has No Service in Colorado!, or

    Verizon has No Service in Denver, Colorado?

    Certainly it wouldn't be "Verizon has No Service in My Neighborhood, a
    small suburb of Denver, Colorado?"

    Just curious...



  13. #13
    Jason Cothran
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability


    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Trimodeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I was talking about the Carolinas. I agree that it wiull ultimately

    depend
    > > on your market where you live.

    >
    > Yet you titled this thread you started "Cingular Hurting Bad on
    > Portability," (which may or may not be true, but certainly unsupported
    > by your post)- not "Cingular in Carolinas Hurting..." (also
    > unsupported by your anecdotal evidence) or "Cingular Hurting in East
    > Undershirt, NC" or wherever (a tenable argument given your exhaustive
    > drive-by research.)
    >
    > > Here, VZW and Alltel are the 800MHz
    > > providers in the Carolinas and I do think that gives them an edge in

    terms
    > > of signal quality. However, if you look at coverage maps here,

    Cingular's
    > > depth of coverage is very spotty.

    >
    > I don't doubt it. Again, my problem was your condemnation of a
    > carrier's entire network by it's service in your area.
    >
    > > Also, nationally the consumer satisfaction surveys show that in most

    major
    > > markets Cingular is at the very bottom, with very unhappy customers,

    with
    > > Verizon at or near the top. So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your

    unobjective
    > > ranting

    >
    > One such "survey" who's link was posted here a month or two ago showed
    > the spread between the top carriers within 2-3 percentage points of
    > each other, and Sprint, not Cingular, at the bottom.
    >
    >
    > > (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > > parents did a poor job raising you

    >
    > You're insulting my PARENTS knowing nothing about them and I'm the one
    > shortchanged in my upbringing?
    >
    > I could point out a similar defect in your upbringing, since your
    > parents, or your education, didn't teach you the difference between
    > "speak" and "write."
    > To explain briefly, the latter is apparently a method to express a
    > thought on Usenet with a free e-mail account that basic decorum would
    > prefent you from expressing face-to-face in the former.
    >
    > >, you are uneducated, or if educated, much
    > > have cheated), say just the opposite.

    >
    > Perhaps- or perhaps I simply allow myself the luxury of bending the
    > rules of proper English when responding to obvious trolling or
    > baiting.
    >
    > Now, after sadly having sunk to your level of personal attack, let me
    > ask you a question. First, the background: I recently moved to a
    > suburb in a valley southwest of Denver. Despite my usual preference
    > for 800MHz carriers, neither AT&T or Verizon (Denver's A and B license
    > carriers) work in my neighborhood, yet three 1900MHz ones do (T-Mo,
    > Qwest and Sprint.) Now the question: which would be the best title
    > for my next post to the Verizon NG:
    >
    > Verizon has No Service!,
    >
    > Verizon has No Service in Colorado!, or
    >
    > Verizon has No Service in Denver, Colorado?
    >
    > Certainly it wouldn't be "Verizon has No Service in My Neighborhood, a
    > small suburb of Denver, Colorado?"
    >
    > Just curious...


    At any rate, if you check J.D. Power ratings, Cingular is tied for first
    overall (3-way tie at that) in the southeast (which of course includes the
    carolinas), and neither of the other two is Verizon. I know here in the GSP
    (SC)area, Cingular's coverage is definately better than Verizon's.





  14. #14
    Trimodeman
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    Thanks for the JD Power survey information. Very interesting survey you
    pointed out. It does indeed show Cingular at the top in the SE, which I
    would not have expected, so I am wrong. For those interested in reading the
    JD Power survey, here is the link:

    http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...03113&search=1



    "Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:UURxb.50[email protected]
    >
    > "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > "Trimodeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > I was talking about the Carolinas. I agree that it wiull ultimately

    > depend
    > > > on your market where you live.

    > >
    > > Yet you titled this thread you started "Cingular Hurting Bad on
    > > Portability," (which may or may not be true, but certainly unsupported
    > > by your post)- not "Cingular in Carolinas Hurting..." (also
    > > unsupported by your anecdotal evidence) or "Cingular Hurting in East
    > > Undershirt, NC" or wherever (a tenable argument given your exhaustive
    > > drive-by research.)
    > >
    > > > Here, VZW and Alltel are the 800MHz
    > > > providers in the Carolinas and I do think that gives them an edge in

    > terms
    > > > of signal quality. However, if you look at coverage maps here,

    > Cingular's
    > > > depth of coverage is very spotty.

    > >
    > > I don't doubt it. Again, my problem was your condemnation of a
    > > carrier's entire network by it's service in your area.
    > >
    > > > Also, nationally the consumer satisfaction surveys show that in most

    > major
    > > > markets Cingular is at the very bottom, with very unhappy customers,

    > with
    > > > Verizon at or near the top. So, while you might like Cingular in your
    > > > market, over the entire country objective surveys, unlike your

    > unobjective
    > > > ranting

    > >
    > > One such "survey" who's link was posted here a month or two ago showed
    > > the spread between the top carriers within 2-3 percentage points of
    > > each other, and Sprint, not Cingular, at the bottom.
    > >
    > >
    > > > (you need to learn to speak without saying sucks- obviously your
    > > > parents did a poor job raising you

    > >
    > > You're insulting my PARENTS knowing nothing about them and I'm the one
    > > shortchanged in my upbringing?
    > >
    > > I could point out a similar defect in your upbringing, since your
    > > parents, or your education, didn't teach you the difference between
    > > "speak" and "write."
    > > To explain briefly, the latter is apparently a method to express a
    > > thought on Usenet with a free e-mail account that basic decorum would
    > > prefent you from expressing face-to-face in the former.
    > >
    > > >, you are uneducated, or if educated, much
    > > > have cheated), say just the opposite.

    > >
    > > Perhaps- or perhaps I simply allow myself the luxury of bending the
    > > rules of proper English when responding to obvious trolling or
    > > baiting.
    > >
    > > Now, after sadly having sunk to your level of personal attack, let me
    > > ask you a question. First, the background: I recently moved to a
    > > suburb in a valley southwest of Denver. Despite my usual preference
    > > for 800MHz carriers, neither AT&T or Verizon (Denver's A and B license
    > > carriers) work in my neighborhood, yet three 1900MHz ones do (T-Mo,
    > > Qwest and Sprint.) Now the question: which would be the best title
    > > for my next post to the Verizon NG:
    > >
    > > Verizon has No Service!,
    > >
    > > Verizon has No Service in Colorado!, or
    > >
    > > Verizon has No Service in Denver, Colorado?
    > >
    > > Certainly it wouldn't be "Verizon has No Service in My Neighborhood, a
    > > small suburb of Denver, Colorado?"
    > >
    > > Just curious...

    >
    > At any rate, if you check J.D. Power ratings, Cingular is tied for first
    > overall (3-way tie at that) in the southeast (which of course includes the
    > carolinas), and neither of the other two is Verizon. I know here in the

    GSP
    > (SC)area, Cingular's coverage is definately better than Verizon's.
    >
    >






  15. #15
    Steven M. Scharf
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Hurting Bad on Portability

    "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]

    > I have to agree, it is a good idea to stay away from a carrier that
    > only has 1.9Ghz coverage in your area.


    This is a very valid point. In my area (San Francisco Bay Area) the two best
    carriers have consistently (and unsurprisingly) been AT&T wireless (TDMA)
    and Verizon (CDMA). Sprint PCS is mediocre, Cingular and T-Mobile are
    absolutely horrible. But recently, AT&T's TDMA coverage has begun to
    deteriorate. I believe that they are converting more of their valuable 800
    Mhz bandwidth over to GSM in order to solve their GSM coverage issues at
    1900 Mhz. When complete, this will be good news for AT&T's GSM customers,
    and will be the final straw for Cingular and T-Mobile since they can't
    duplicate this 800 Mhz coverage; anyone that wants GSM will choose AT&T if
    coverage is their main concern. But in the meantime, AT&T is offering
    mediocre 1900 Mhz GSM (though better than Cingular and T-Mobile), their 800
    Mhz GSM is being used only by very recent subscribers that have the proper
    handset, and their TDMA coverage is worsening. So we've gone from having two
    decent carriers (Verizon and AT&T) to only one (Verizon).

    I think the reason that Verizon is doing so well in my area is that cellular
    subscribers have grown up. They no longer look just at price, especially if
    they've been burned by Cingular, T-Mobile, or Sprint. AT&T actually has more
    to lose with LNP than Cingular because Cingular is so absolutely terrible
    that most people left already, and didn't worry about keeping their number.
    But AT&T signed up massive numbers of corporate accounts, all the way back
    to their Cellular One days, and these accounts are now up for grabs just at
    the time when AT&T quality is going down. I think that part of the reason
    that some carriers so violently opposed LNP was that the timing was
    particulary bad for them, coming in the midst of a technology conversion.

    Steve





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