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- 12-07-2003, 01:32 AM #31AboutdakotaGuest
Re: if they treat LOYAL customers this way....
Jer wrote:
> Aboutdakota wrote:
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>> Well, I, being a college student, would not buy a NEW tire. I would
>> juse my spare, and I would go to a salvage yard and find an acceptable
>> tire. I would then find a farmer, wehre I could put the tire on my
>> rim, and I would then proceed to balance my tire, and place it
>> appropriately as either my new spare, or on my car and remove the
>> normal spare.
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> If it's a radial-ply tire, you need to be certain it continues to rotate
> in the same direction it did before. Once a radial has been on the
> ground long enough to develop a set, reversing it's rotation WILL result
> in tread separation. Catastrophic failure at highway speed is not
> something you want to put your family through.
>
Didn't Ford have a problem with that on it's Explorer within the past
several years?
==AD
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- 12-07-2003, 01:35 AM #32AboutdakotaGuest
Re: if they treat LOYAL customers this way....
John Navas wrote:
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> In <[email protected]> on Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:30:30 -0600,
> Aboutdakota <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>Scott in Aztlán wrote:
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>>>Let me ask you a question: Suppose you had a $120 unexpected expense - say you
>>>had a flat tire and needed to buy a new one. Would you be able to pay the $120
>>>in one lump sum? Or would you need to ask the tire store to let you pay for the
>>>tire in four $30 installments?
>>>
>>>I contend that if a $120 expense is a budget breaker, there's something wrong
>>>with the financial management picture.
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>>Well, I, being a college student, would not buy a NEW tire. I would
>>juse my spare, and I would go to a salvage yard and find an acceptable
>>tire. I would then find a farmer, wehre I could put the tire on my rim,
>>and I would then proceed to balance my tire, and place it appropriately
>>as either my new spare, or on my car and remove the normal spare.
>
>
> Remind me not to drive when you are on the road!
Yeah, that's the rural life. In North Dakota, *if* you had analog
service on your mobile phone, and *if* you called AAA, they *might*
decide to come out and help you, *if* it isn't too cold outside (like in
the winters.
Ahh...the means/extremes climate: broiling summers and harsh winters.
Great summers and crappy winters. Great summer combined with Florida or
Arizona winters work very well.
==AD
- 12-07-2003, 01:54 PM #33JerGuest
Re: if they treat LOYAL customers this way....
Aboutdakota wrote:
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> Jer wrote:
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>> Aboutdakota wrote:
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>>> Well, I, being a college student, would not buy a NEW tire. I would
>>> juse my spare, and I would go to a salvage yard and find an
>>> acceptable tire. I would then find a farmer, wehre I could put the
>>> tire on my rim, and I would then proceed to balance my tire, and
>>> place it appropriately as either my new spare, or on my car and
>>> remove the normal spare.
>>
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>> If it's a radial-ply tire, you need to be certain it continues to
>> rotate in the same direction it did before. Once a radial has been on
>> the ground long enough to develop a set, reversing it's rotation WILL
>> result in tread separation. Catastrophic failure at highway speed is
>> not something you want to put your family through.
>>
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> Didn't Ford have a problem with that on it's Explorer within the past
> several years?
>
> ==AD
>
Some tire manufacturers had a problem with certain tires used on a
number of domestic vehicles - Ford was one - and that problem was called
tread separation, but was due to either defective tires or defective
tire users. Tread separation can be the result of a number of issues,
but most tire shops have known to rotate tires front-to-rear only, not
side-to-side for quite some time now. (operative word: most) Could it
be that most Ford people have their tires rotated by tire shops that
don't know this? Even in brake shops, the removed wheels are left at
the same corner of the vehicle so they go back on the same axle, or
they're marked in some way (with chalk). Personally, I've always marked
my tires with a soldering iron by burning an arrow denoting rotational
direction just above the bead. This habit has paid dividends.
Tread separation seems common with purchasing used tires, since
rotational direction is impossible to verify until it's too late. I'm
aware of one tire shop that learned this the hard way. Afterward, they
chalked their standing inventory with LR, RF, etc. hoping future buyers
wouldn't know they did this without really knowing the truth, but one of
their own employees rattted them out during the second civil suit.
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