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  1. #1
    Consumer Monkey
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    I have a Sony Ericsson T610 on O2 here in the UK but frequently travel to
    Italy where I switch the SIM card with one from Italy's TIM network. With
    the TIM SIM card, the phone defaults to using SIM memory instead of phone
    memory. For instance if you click down on the joystick to bring up your
    contacts, it reads them only from the SIM card phone-book (which is empty in
    my case!), and if you receive a text message it goes directly to the SIM
    card. This is different functionality from when the phone contains the O2
    SIM.

    It's also quite annoying. If you want to call somebody you have to go deep
    into the contacts sub-menu to find them. Alternatively you need to copy the
    whole phone book to the SIM card, of course losing the enhancements you have
    with contacts in phone memory - multiple numbers, photos etc. Text messages
    will first fill up the SIM then go to phone memory, but then you constantly
    have a flashing envelope on the screen telling you the sim is full!

    Does anyone know how or why this is happening? I have witnessed other
    people's TIM SIMs behaving this way in T610s also. Why have TIM done this? I
    don't see the benefit at all.





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  2. #2
    Radiohead
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    Re: UK T610 functions differently when italian PAYG card inserted


    "Consumer Monkey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I have a Sony Ericsson T610 on O2 here in the UK but frequently travel to
    > Italy where I switch the SIM card with one from Italy's TIM network. With
    > the TIM SIM card, the phone defaults to using SIM memory instead of phone
    > memory. For instance if you click down on the joystick to bring up your
    > contacts, it reads them only from the SIM card phone-book (which is empty

    in
    > my case!), and if you receive a text message it goes directly to the SIM
    > card. This is different functionality from when the phone contains the O2
    > SIM.
    >
    > It's also quite annoying. If you want to call somebody you have to go deep
    > into the contacts sub-menu to find them. Alternatively you need to copy

    the
    > whole phone book to the SIM card, of course losing the enhancements you

    have
    > with contacts in phone memory - multiple numbers, photos etc. Text

    messages
    > will first fill up the SIM then go to phone memory, but then you

    constantly
    > have a flashing envelope on the screen telling you the sim is full!
    >
    > Does anyone know how or why this is happening? I have witnessed other
    > people's TIM SIMs behaving this way in T610s also. Why have TIM done this?

    I
    > don't see the benefit at all.


    This happens often when you swap SIM cards on an unlocked phone. It confused
    me at first too! After you install the SIM the phone tends to default to SIM
    memory unless you tell it otherwise.

    I have a Nokia 6210 and within the messages section there is a menu option
    to tell the phone which memory to use as a default (SIM or phone).

    I don't know your phone but I'm sure there must be a similar menu option
    somewhere, therefore the first thing you would do after you have swapped
    your SIM is to check that the phone is set to 'phone memory' as a default,
    so that you can access all your contacts again and save your texts to the
    phone and not the SIM.





  3. #3
    Sam Cooper \(formerly MB\)
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    Re: UK T610 functions differently when italian PAYG card inserted

    "Radiohead" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    >
    > This happens often when you swap SIM cards on an unlocked phone. It

    confused
    > me at first too! After you install the SIM the phone tends to default to

    SIM
    > memory unless you tell it otherwise.


    Not in this case!
    Every TIM subscriber (using a Sonyericsson phone) has the same problem: it
    is caused by the "64kb simcards" distibuted by the italian carrier! They
    force the phone to use the sim memory because some services need to get
    information from the sim.

    If you are a TIM subscriber, when you are not reachable and someone try to
    call you, the network store the caller Id and send you an sms when you are
    reachable again telling who called you and when. In that sms you'll find the
    name of the caller (instead of the number) if his name has been stored to
    the sim memory before.

    MB





  4. #4
    Consumer Monkey
    Guest

    Re: UK T610 functions differently when italian PAYG card inserted


    "Sam Cooper (formerly MB)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > Not in this case!
    > Every TIM subscriber (using a Sonyericsson phone) has the same problem: it
    > is caused by the "64kb simcards" distibuted by the italian carrier! They
    > force the phone to use the sim memory because some services need to get
    > information from the sim.
    >
    > If you are a TIM subscriber, when you are not reachable and someone try to
    > call you, the network store the caller Id and send you an sms when you are
    > reachable again telling who called you and when. In that sms you'll find

    the
    > name of the caller (instead of the number) if his name has been stored to
    > the sim memory before.
    >
    > MB
    >


    So there's nothing I can do.. But if the problem/feature only exists for
    TIM customers using Sony Ericsson phones is not a problem with Sony Ericsson
    phones then? Do TIM customers with other makes of phone have the same
    problem?





  5. #5
    Sam Cooper \(formerly MB\)
    Guest

    Re: UK T610 functions differently when italian PAYG card inserted

    "Consumer Monkey" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    >
    > So there's nothing I can do.. But if the problem/feature only exists for
    > TIM customers using Sony Ericsson phones is not a problem with Sony

    Ericsson
    > phones then? Do TIM customers with other makes of phone have the same
    > problem?


    As far as I know only latest SonyEricsson phones using latest TIM simcard
    (64Kb) have this problem: I've got a T610 but I'm a Vodafone Italy
    subscriber so everything is ok. A friend of mine has a T610 too, but he's an
    old TIM subscriber so his simcard is pretty old (16Kb) and everything is ok!

    There are two solutions: change provider or change phone! ;-)

    MB





  6. #6
    Consumer Monkey
    Guest

    Re: UK T610 functions differently when italian PAYG card inserted


    "Sam Cooper (formerly MB)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > As far as I know only latest SonyEricsson phones using latest TIM simcard
    > (64Kb) have this problem: I've got a T610 but I'm a Vodafone Italy
    > subscriber so everything is ok. A friend of mine has a T610 too, but he's

    an
    > old TIM subscriber so his simcard is pretty old (16Kb) and everything is

    ok!
    >
    > There are two solutions: change provider or change phone! ;-)
    >


    Hhmmm.. Unfortunately TIM offers the best coverage in the relatively rural
    area I'm concerned with in Italy. It's ridiculous that a new SIM card on a
    pretty much state-of-the-art phone (as of last summer) can combine to create
    these problems! I think changing phone is the more likely scenario but I
    don't know what phone offers the same level of features as the T610
    (including bluetooth)...

    Cheers anyway :-)





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