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  1. #1
    stan
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    Wife wants to get one.
    Can u downloads files to phone? like pictures and tones from PC?
    how is the general comment in comparison to NK 7250
    views and comments please.
    Thanks





    See More: what can you do with a T610?




  2. #2
    Bruce Almighty
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    It has alot of features like bluetooth. You can download pictures and tones
    provided the pc has the bluetooth module plugged into it. Or can visit
    websites like 'jimmytones' to download thru GPRS. Because of the casing of
    the phone, it gets dusty easily. The phone comes with a cloth for this
    purpose. My wife is using it too. The only complain is the messaging
    interface is not as good as nokia.
    "stan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Wife wants to get one.
    > Can u downloads files to phone? like pictures and tones from PC?
    > how is the general comment in comparison to NK 7250
    > views and comments please.
    > Thanks
    >
    >






  3. #3
    Webseller
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    Sucks big time.
    Don't get it.

    "Bruce Almighty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > It has alot of features like bluetooth. You can download pictures and

    tones
    > provided the pc has the bluetooth module plugged into it. Or can visit
    > websites like 'jimmytones' to download thru GPRS. Because of the casing of
    > the phone, it gets dusty easily. The phone comes with a cloth for this
    > purpose. My wife is using it too. The only complain is the messaging
    > interface is not as good as nokia.
    > "stan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Wife wants to get one.
    > > Can u downloads files to phone? like pictures and tones from PC?
    > > how is the general comment in comparison to NK 7250
    > > views and comments please.
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  4. #4
    Richard Colton
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?


    "Webseller" <[email protected]> top-posted in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Sucks big time.
    > Don't get it.


    Pretty much like your posting then?

    Perhaps you'd care to enliighten us all why "it sucks" or are you just
    trolling?

    To the OP - The T610 feature wise is probably the most complete phone in its
    price range. Build quality is better than most of the current Nokia
    handsets, and far superior to the 7250i. If you're used to Nokias, the
    interface is different but works well once you've got used to it.
    Ringtones, pictures and games can all be uploaded easily to the phone (use
    IR or Bluetooth, it's far simpler than a cable).

    --
    >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<<
    >>> http://www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<<
    >>> http://www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<<






  5. #5
    Chewie
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > The only complain is the messaging
    > interface is not as good as nokia.


    What? That's streets ahead of the 7210/7250(i) and about the best thing
    about the phone.

    I'ver got a T610 and my wife's just got a 7250i and after only four days
    I can say I don't like either for very different reasons...
    - Wanna trade fotos? The T610 can send/receive to/from other fones via
    IR or an IR/IRDA enabled computer running WindowsXP but the Nokia won't.
    You need to install MobiMB (not free) or Nokia PC Suite (>20MB, free)
    and use that on a computer and you can forget all about transferring
    to/from another phone for free altogether unless you're at a computer.
    - Same goes for ringtones... T610 does it naturally, 72xx is same as
    for pix.
    - The T610 will accept most small midis but the 72xx is bloody
    finnicky. You can load midis into PC Suite to adapt them for the
    appalling 4-note implementation of polyphony but it's very limited and
    the results I've had this weekend don't encourage me to continue.
    - The 72xx display is small compared to the T610 but at least you can
    see it in daylight... I've *****ed about this in here before and no-
    one's going to convince me it's not an issue. I've had my T610 for 7
    months now and my disply is now completely useless out-of-doors due to
    the dust that has appeared 'behind' the screen.
    - The 7250 camera is pretty good and so is the T610 but mine's got a
    lump of something on the inside of the lens so I don't bother with it.
    - The T610's interface is very nice (if only you could customise all
    the joystick moves) but the Nokia one is just naff - it's basically a
    slightly updated (colour and small animation) version of what they put
    on the 51xx models all those years ago.
    - Looks. Well, the 7210 looks the best IMO, if you want to get one with
    a free camera; the 7250's keys are easier to use but the colour schemes
    look horrible and I'll bet the wife's looking at new covers already. The
    T610 looks like a brick.

    So, to sum it up, I've used a 7210 and a T610 for 6 months each and
    tested the 7250i and don't really like any of them. Given that the only
    other model I've had my mitts on was a V200 (you wouldn't believe how
    crap that is) I don't see a camera-phone I'd bust a gut to get hold of.
    --
    Chewie.
    http://www.chewie.org.uk
    http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html



  6. #6
    Kolicha \(vinnieza\)
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?


    "stan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Wife wants to get one.
    > Can u downloads files to phone? like pictures and tones from PC?
    > how is the general comment in comparison to NK 7250
    > views and comments please.
    > Thanks
    >
    >


    here's a nice comparison that you may find useful:

    http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=54,cp=74

    Hope this helps : )





  7. #7
    Sebby
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    Richard Colton wrote:

    > To the OP - The T610 feature wise is probably the most complete phone in

    its
    > price range. Build quality is better than most of the current Nokia
    > handsets, and far superior to the 7250i. If you're used to Nokias, the
    > interface is different but works well once you've got used to it.
    > Ringtones, pictures and games can all be uploaded easily to the phone (use
    > IR or Bluetooth, it's far simpler than a cable).


    This sums it up perfectly :-)

    Basically, the T610 is far more feature-rich than the 7250i. The interface
    is far different to a Nokia, but in fact I now prefer it. Text messaging
    isn't as easy as a Nokia, but is by no means difficult. I can write a text
    message just as quickly as on a Nokia now I'm used to it.





  8. #8
    Webseller
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    I am using a T610 myself.
    At first before i got it, I thought it's a perfect phone. BUT after using it
    for 1/2 a year, i can only say it doesn't even live up to 50% of my
    expectation. I was a nokia user before.

    1. Build In Camera.
    The build in Camera doesn't take good picture at all. The picture come
    out grainy, and not very focus most of the time. Ya, I know u got to hold it
    still when taking picture, but it still comes out blurr some of the time.
    Don't tell me i got to get a camera stand for it ?? I compared to Nokia
    Phone, T610 fare worse.

    2. Syn Software with Computer.
    Unlike Nokia that comes with it's own Phone Manager, T610 doesn't. It
    comes with XTNDConnect PC to link up with PC to do phonebook maintainance.
    Make use of Outlook to do the phone book maintainance. There's no way you
    can backup the entire phone like nokia, there's no way to do SMS
    maintainance, no way to set profile from the phone using it. BUT atlas, i
    manager to find a freeware, Mobile Agent, that allows u to do these. How
    come Sony Erisson doesn't come with a good software to do all these and need
    a third party software ?

    3. Transfer of pictures/ringing tone.
    After taking picture with the build in camera, we, of course, would want
    to save it somewhere right ? The only way to save it is to send it ONE BY
    ONE from the phone interface to your laptop/pc with infra. I am not
    complaining about the Infra transfer. I am terribly disappointed that
    there's no software that comes with Sony Erisson to COPY all the pictures
    from the phone to the pc. you got to browse throught the pictures on the
    phone, and send it ONE BY ONE to the PC, and then delete it ONE BY ONE from
    the phone itself. Damm user unfriendly. The only way around this is to get
    yourself a BLUETOOTH dongle, then u can treat the phone as a external drive,
    and do a copy all files to your pc, and then delete all files from it. but
    there's NO WAY you can do it without BUYING the bluetooth dongle for your
    comptuer. That sums the pc-handphone interface of T610. Sucks BIG TIME. But,
    if u don't use it together with a computer, of course, these lousy
    unfeatures won't bother u.

    4. Phone Look and feel.
    The phone itself look nice, BUT once u start using it, u'll realise that
    this is a display phone, and not a phone to be use. Basically, ur
    fingerprint will just smudge the phone surface everytime u use it. Ya, it
    comes with a cleaning cloth, but are u going to attach the cloth to the
    phone and use it EVERYTIME you finish using the phone ? Or are u going to
    wear a glove with you use the phone ? Also , the phone LCD screen casing
    basically is flush with the rest of the phone. So when u put it in ur
    pocket, the screen get scratches damm easily. Never had that problem with
    Nokia phone. And worst of all, the cover is not changable. So it's not a
    simple affair of buying a new cover with u scratch the surface of the phone.
    Thought of protecting the phone with a plastic phone cover, BAD CHOICE. the
    plastic cover rub against the Phone, and causes small round scratches all
    over the phone.

    5. Phone interface
    Now, we are not talking about the menu, but the SPEED of the interface.
    Can u imagine pressing a button, or maneurvering the joystick, and the
    reaction of the action u just did come out 1 sec later ? Just like when a
    phone ring, u press to answer the phone, but it doesn't seems to pick up the
    call immediately, so u press again and in the end, 1 sec later, ur phone get
    answered, and hanged up coz u pressed the button twice. When u try to browse
    throught the phone book, the selection scroll a while slower than how u
    press the button. So when u see the name u want to dial, u press the dial
    button, it still continue to scroll downwards , then DIAL. so u gotta cancel
    the call, and then retry that again. U get retarded reaction from the phone
    for every action u do. Almost like they using a old P1 computer and try to
    run WinXP off it, u get lousy performance, almost to the level of unbearable
    standard.

    6. Handfree set.
    The plug in of the handfree sucks. If u try plugging in the handfree
    set, then put the phone inside your pocket and talk, u'll realise that the
    connector between the phone and the handfree keep coming off. You gotta go
    connect again. So does that mean that i gotta hold the phone ON my hand when
    i use the handfree ?
    Never had a proble with the nokia older model, the 8310, 8250, 3210, 8210,
    etc. Those headphone jack kind. Not too sure about the newer connector,
    those 6610, etc.

    7. Stupid Profile Configuration.
    When u plug in the handfree set, it doesn't immediately switch to
    handfree, sometimes, u gotta wait up to 5sec before the handfree profile
    comes out. Too slow for my liking. Also, when plugging in the handfree set,
    u would expect all sound to come from the headset right ? No, u are wrong,
    the phone itself will still ring, will still "click" when u take picture,
    etc. I mean, it doesn't make sense.

    8. Ringing tone.
    The ringing tone is just damm soft. Even at loudest, it's so much softer
    than nokia phone ( Put them side by side to compare), that means i get to
    miss call more often at crowded and noisy places, compare to my nokia phone
    in the past. Also, u notice that T610 ALWAYS ring from a soft volume and
    slowly increase the ringing tone to the normal volume after 2-3 Seconds.
    There's no way you can set it so that it just ring normally as what the
    ringing tone was set to. This mean that you might not hear the phone ring
    for the first couple of seconds because it's always ringing so damm bloody
    softly, and by the time u hear the ring, the phone had been ringing for 5/6
    Seconds already, and before u could answer it, the person on the other end
    hang up. I got a lot of cases where the person just hanged up when/before i
    answer the call. This happens very much more frequently than when i was
    using my previous phone. Might be just me, but then again, i am comparing
    the my previous phone and my current T610.

    9. Screen
    Try looking at the screen when u are out in the open and the sun's up.
    You can't see the screen at all, can't really see even if u try using ur
    hand to cover the screen and peeping through them. But then again, this
    might be a problem with all coloured phone. BUT i have a nikon digital
    camera, that i can actually see very well under the exact same situation. i
    compare them side by side. One i can see clearly without using my hand to
    cover (nikon camera), the other T610 that i can't see at all, not even when
    i use hand to shield the screen from the sun.

    Off hand, these are the main things that i find that the phone sucks in.
    Really regretted getting this phone.

    My main requirement of the phone would be,
    1. Bluetooth Connection.
    2. Good PC-Phone linkage software so that i can better manage my phone from
    the PC, e.g. Maintaining a backup, maintaining sms, phonebook, calendar,
    etc.
    3. Faster User Interface.
    4. Good Casing that doesn't get smudge/scratches easily, or at least can be
    change easily when scratched.
    5. Size ard the same as T610/Nokia 8310, 8210, etc.
    Would be good if it comes with these other functions.
    1. Camera with Video.
    2. Can add on memory on the fly (that means don't have to shut down the
    phone, take out cover, take out battery, then change mem card).
    3. Polyphonic LOUD ringing tone.

    Anyone can tell me which phone actually fit this criteria ?
    Somebody told me siemen phone's quite good in this, any siemen's user wanna
    comments ?

    "Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:ry%[email protected]
    >
    > "Webseller" <[email protected]> top-posted in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Sucks big time.
    > > Don't get it.

    >
    > Pretty much like your posting then?
    >
    > Perhaps you'd care to enliighten us all why "it sucks" or are you just
    > trolling?
    >
    > To the OP - The T610 feature wise is probably the most complete phone in

    its
    > price range. Build quality is better than most of the current Nokia
    > handsets, and far superior to the 7250i. If you're used to Nokias, the
    > interface is different but works well once you've got used to it.
    > Ringtones, pictures and games can all be uploaded easily to the phone (use
    > IR or Bluetooth, it's far simpler than a cable).
    >
    > --
    > >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<<
    > >>> http://www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<<
    > >>> http://www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<<

    >
    >






  9. #9
    Webseller
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    > To the OP - The T610 feature wise is probably the most complete phone in
    its
    > price range. Build quality is better than most of the current Nokia
    > handsets, and far superior to the 7250i. If you're used to Nokias, the
    > interface is different but works well once you've got used to it.
    > Ringtones, pictures and games can all be uploaded easily to the phone (use
    > IR or Bluetooth, it's far simpler than a cable).

    Try downloading pictures, ringtones FROM the phone back to the PC.
    Without bluetooth, it's a nightmare.

    I thought Nokia's becoming worse, 8310's SMS inbox taking almost 1min-2mins
    to open, but T610 let me see the reason why Nokia still sells.
    U got a Bad, U got a Worse. Of course u'll stick to Bad.






  10. #10
    Webseller
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    Some things u gotta try.
    E.g. Both Phone have synchronising, but WAIT till you try the synchronising
    urself.
    Then u'll realise what is Synchronising.

    "Kolicha (vinnieza)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "stan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Wife wants to get one.
    > > Can u downloads files to phone? like pictures and tones from PC?
    > > how is the general comment in comparison to NK 7250
    > > views and comments please.
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > >

    >
    > here's a nice comparison that you may find useful:
    >
    > http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=54,cp=74
    >
    > Hope this helps : )
    >
    >






  11. #11
    Webseller
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    Btw, just in case u think that the casing scratches/smudging is due to my
    partiularly rough usage, i can say that I never change my usage pattern for
    my nokia phone and my T610. BUT the T610 come off looking much worse off
    than the nokia phone. In fact as the T610 is newer, i tried taking more care
    of it, but it still came off worse. Lousy Phone.

    "Sebby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Richard Colton wrote:
    >
    > > To the OP - The T610 feature wise is probably the most complete phone in

    > its
    > > price range. Build quality is better than most of the current Nokia
    > > handsets, and far superior to the 7250i. If you're used to Nokias, the
    > > interface is different but works well once you've got used to it.
    > > Ringtones, pictures and games can all be uploaded easily to the phone

    (use
    > > IR or Bluetooth, it's far simpler than a cable).

    >
    > This sums it up perfectly :-)
    >
    > Basically, the T610 is far more feature-rich than the 7250i. The interface
    > is far different to a Nokia, but in fact I now prefer it. Text messaging
    > isn't as easy as a Nokia, but is by no means difficult. I can write a text
    > message just as quickly as on a Nokia now I'm used to it.
    >
    >






  12. #12
    Steve
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    Chewie <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > - Wanna trade fotos? The T610 can send/receive to/from other fones via
    > IR or an IR/IRDA enabled computer running WindowsXP but the Nokia won't.
    > You need to install MobiMB (not free) or Nokia PC Suite (>20MB, free)
    > and use that on a computer and you can forget all about transferring
    > to/from another phone for free altogether unless you're at a computer.
    > - Same goes for ringtones... T610 does it naturally, 72xx is same as
    > for pix.
    > - The T610 will accept most small midis but the 72xx is bloody
    > finnicky. You can load midis into PC Suite to adapt them for the
    > appalling 4-note implementation of polyphony but it's very limited and
    > the results I've had this weekend don't encourage me to continue.


    That's exactly why I bought myself a T630 and not a 7250(i).
    Infrared works great for transferring data (photos, midis, themes).
    My old phone was a T300, copied my phonebook in no time via infrared.

    > - The 72xx display is small compared to the T610 but at least you can
    > see it in daylight... I've *****ed about this in here before and no-
    > one's going to convince me it's not an issue. I've had my T610 for 7
    > months now and my disply is now completely useless out-of-doors due to
    > the dust that has appeared 'behind' the screen.


    Seems that SonyEricsson solved the screen problem for the T630. I
    personally think that the 7250(i) display is sufficient, but of course
    it's nicer to have a large display.

    > - The 7250 camera is pretty good and so is the T610 but mine's got a
    > lump of something on the inside of the lens so I don't bother with it.


    Dirt on the camera lens is something that really sucks.. but that's
    just tough luck if you can't clean it.



  13. #13
    Chewie
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    > 1. Build In Camera.
    > The build in Camera doesn't take good picture at all. The picture come
    > out grainy, and not very focus most of the time. Ya, I know u got to hold it
    > still when taking picture, but it still comes out blurr some of the time.
    > Don't tell me i got to get a camera stand for it ?? I compared to Nokia
    > Phone, T610 fare worse.


    I've taken some photos with the phone standing on a table and the
    results have been poor.

    > 2. Syn Software with Computer.
    > Unlike Nokia that comes with it's own Phone Manager, T610 doesn't. It
    > comes with XTNDConnect PC to link up with PC to do phonebook maintainance.
    > Make use of Outlook to do the phone book maintainance. There's no way you
    > can backup the entire phone like nokia, there's no way to do SMS
    > maintainance, no way to set profile from the phone using it. BUT atlas, i
    > manager to find a freeware, Mobile Agent, that allows u to do these. How
    > come Sony Erisson doesn't come with a good software to do all these and need
    > a third party software ?


    I have a USB irda device (Mobile Action MA-620) and the Sony software
    doesn't recognise it. "It's meant to work with the IR that's normally
    fitted to laptops" is what their helpline told me. OK, I use the
    childish-looking Handset Manager from Mobile Action instead.

    > 4. Phone Look and feel.
    > The phone itself look nice, BUT once u start using it, u'll realise that
    > this is a display phone, and not a phone to be use. Basically, ur
    > fingerprint will just smudge the phone surface everytime u use it. Ya, it
    > comes with a cleaning cloth, but are u going to attach the cloth to the
    > phone and use it EVERYTIME you finish using the phone ? Or are u going to
    > wear a glove with you use the phone ? Also , the phone LCD screen casing
    > basically is flush with the rest of the phone. So when u put it in ur
    > pocket, the screen get scratches damm easily. Never had that problem with
    > Nokia phone. And worst of all, the cover is not changable. So it's not a
    > simple affair of buying a new cover with u scratch the surface of the phone.
    > Thought of protecting the phone with a plastic phone cover, BAD CHOICE. the
    > plastic cover rub against the Phone, and causes small round scratches all
    > over the phone.


    ....and the little plug that's supposed to plug the lens hole? It kept
    falling out until I finally lost it.

    > 5. Phone interface
    > Now, we are not talking about the menu, but the SPEED of the interface.
    > Can u imagine pressing a button, or maneurvering the joystick, and the
    > reaction of the action u just did come out 1 sec later ? Just like when a
    > phone ring, u press to answer the phone, but it doesn't seems to pick up the
    > call immediately, so u press again and in the end, 1 sec later, ur phone get
    > answered, and hanged up coz u pressed the button twice. When u try to browse
    > throught the phone book, the selection scroll a while slower than how u
    > press the button. So when u see the name u want to dial, u press the dial
    > button, it still continue to scroll downwards , then DIAL. so u gotta cancel
    > the call, and then retry that again. U get retarded reaction from the phone
    > for every action u do. Almost like they using a old P1 computer and try to
    > run WinXP off it, u get lousy performance, almost to the level of unbearable
    > standard.


    Yes, the delayed reaction on the navigation is irksome to say the least.

    > 6. Handfree set.
    > The plug in of the handfree sucks. If u try plugging in the handfree
    > set, then put the phone inside your pocket and talk, u'll realise that the
    > connector between the phone and the handfree keep coming off. You gotta go
    > connect again. So does that mean that i gotta hold the phone ON my hand when
    > i use the handfree ?
    > Never had a proble with the nokia older model, the 8310, 8250, 3210, 8210,
    > etc. Those headphone jack kind. Not too sure about the newer connector,
    > those 6610, etc.


    I only got one of these recently and although I don't have a problem
    with the plug coming out, I can see that it could be a problem. Why does
    the wire have to come out of the side of the plug? It's not as if having
    it coming out of the bottom will get in the way because it does that
    anyway.

    > 7. Stupid Profile Configuration.
    > When u plug in the handfree set, it doesn't immediately switch to
    > handfree, sometimes, u gotta wait up to 5sec before the handfree profile
    > comes out. Too slow for my liking. Also, when plugging in the handfree set,
    > u would expect all sound to come from the headset right ? No, u are wrong,
    > the phone itself will still ring, will still "click" when u take picture,
    > etc. I mean, it doesn't make sense.


    Heh, I wondered for bloody ages what the 'three squares' icon at the
    display top meant... then realised it indicates you're handsfree. WTF?

    > 8. Ringing tone.
    > The ringing tone is just damm soft. Even at loudest, it's so much softer
    > than nokia phone ( Put them side by side to compare), that means i get to
    > miss call more often at crowded and noisy places, compare to my nokia phone
    > in the past. Also, u notice that T610 ALWAYS ring from a soft volume and
    > slowly increase the ringing tone to the normal volume after 2-3 Seconds.
    > There's no way you can set it so that it just ring normally as what the
    > ringing tone was set to. This mean that you might not hear the phone ring
    > for the first couple of seconds because it's always ringing so damm bloody
    > softly, and by the time u hear the ring, the phone had been ringing for 5/6
    > Seconds already, and before u could answer it, the person on the other end
    > hang up. I got a lot of cases where the person just hanged up when/before i
    > answer the call. This happens very much more frequently than when i was
    > using my previous phone. Might be just me, but then again, i am comparing
    > the my previous phone and my current T610.


    Aah yes, that damned daft 'someone may go deaf if the phone rings while
    they're sleeping on it' crap. Coupled with my providers max ringing
    before going to voicemail it's a right PITA, so I turned off voicemail
    altogether.
    Yes, the tones sound great but they are soooo quiet, aren't they? My
    wife couldn't believe how quiet the same ringtone file is on my T610
    compared to her 7250i.

    > Off hand, these are the main things that i find that the phone sucks in.
    > Really regretted getting this phone.


    I almost regret gettin it too, but after playing with my wife's 7250i, I
    see it has fewer shortcomings than the Nokia. Nokia should really know
    better.
    --
    Chewie.
    http://www.chewie.org.uk
    http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html



  14. #14
    Sebby
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    Webseller wrote:

    > Btw, just in case u think that the casing scratches/smudging is due to my
    > partiularly rough usage, i can say that I never change my usage pattern

    for
    > my nokia phone and my T610. BUT the T610 come off looking much worse off
    > than the nokia phone. In fact as the T610 is newer, i tried taking more

    care
    > of it, but it still came off worse. Lousy Phone.


    Lousy owner





  15. #15
    sosibor
    Guest

    Re: what can you do with a T610?

    so simple
    trade-in loh.....
    thats why sony ericsson got T630 liao mah...... :P

    Chewie wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    > > 1. Build In Camera.
    > > The build in Camera doesn't take good picture at all. The picture come
    > > out grainy, and not very focus most of the time. Ya, I know u got to hold it
    > > still when taking picture, but it still comes out blurr some of the time.
    > > Don't tell me i got to get a camera stand for it ?? I compared to Nokia
    > > Phone, T610 fare worse.

    >
    > I've taken some photos with the phone standing on a table and the
    > results have been poor.
    >
    > > 2. Syn Software with Computer.
    > > Unlike Nokia that comes with it's own Phone Manager, T610 doesn't. It
    > > comes with XTNDConnect PC to link up with PC to do phonebook maintainance.
    > > Make use of Outlook to do the phone book maintainance. There's no way you
    > > can backup the entire phone like nokia, there's no way to do SMS
    > > maintainance, no way to set profile from the phone using it. BUT atlas, i
    > > manager to find a freeware, Mobile Agent, that allows u to do these. How
    > > come Sony Erisson doesn't come with a good software to do all these and need
    > > a third party software ?

    >
    > I have a USB irda device (Mobile Action MA-620) and the Sony software
    > doesn't recognise it. "It's meant to work with the IR that's normally
    > fitted to laptops" is what their helpline told me. OK, I use the
    > childish-looking Handset Manager from Mobile Action instead.
    >
    > > 4. Phone Look and feel.
    > > The phone itself look nice, BUT once u start using it, u'll realise that
    > > this is a display phone, and not a phone to be use. Basically, ur
    > > fingerprint will just smudge the phone surface everytime u use it. Ya, it
    > > comes with a cleaning cloth, but are u going to attach the cloth to the
    > > phone and use it EVERYTIME you finish using the phone ? Or are u going to
    > > wear a glove with you use the phone ? Also , the phone LCD screen casing
    > > basically is flush with the rest of the phone. So when u put it in ur
    > > pocket, the screen get scratches damm easily. Never had that problem with
    > > Nokia phone. And worst of all, the cover is not changable. So it's not a
    > > simple affair of buying a new cover with u scratch the surface of the phone.
    > > Thought of protecting the phone with a plastic phone cover, BAD CHOICE. the
    > > plastic cover rub against the Phone, and causes small round scratches all
    > > over the phone.

    >
    > ...and the little plug that's supposed to plug the lens hole? It kept
    > falling out until I finally lost it.
    >
    > > 5. Phone interface
    > > Now, we are not talking about the menu, but the SPEED of the interface.
    > > Can u imagine pressing a button, or maneurvering the joystick, and the
    > > reaction of the action u just did come out 1 sec later ? Just like when a
    > > phone ring, u press to answer the phone, but it doesn't seems to pick up the
    > > call immediately, so u press again and in the end, 1 sec later, ur phone get
    > > answered, and hanged up coz u pressed the button twice. When u try to browse
    > > throught the phone book, the selection scroll a while slower than how u
    > > press the button. So when u see the name u want to dial, u press the dial
    > > button, it still continue to scroll downwards , then DIAL. so u gotta cancel
    > > the call, and then retry that again. U get retarded reaction from the phone
    > > for every action u do. Almost like they using a old P1 computer and try to
    > > run WinXP off it, u get lousy performance, almost to the level of unbearable
    > > standard.

    >
    > Yes, the delayed reaction on the navigation is irksome to say the least.
    >
    > > 6. Handfree set.
    > > The plug in of the handfree sucks. If u try plugging in the handfree
    > > set, then put the phone inside your pocket and talk, u'll realise that the
    > > connector between the phone and the handfree keep coming off. You gotta go
    > > connect again. So does that mean that i gotta hold the phone ON my hand when
    > > i use the handfree ?
    > > Never had a proble with the nokia older model, the 8310, 8250, 3210, 8210,
    > > etc. Those headphone jack kind. Not too sure about the newer connector,
    > > those 6610, etc.

    >
    > I only got one of these recently and although I don't have a problem
    > with the plug coming out, I can see that it could be a problem. Why does
    > the wire have to come out of the side of the plug? It's not as if having
    > it coming out of the bottom will get in the way because it does that
    > anyway.
    >
    > > 7. Stupid Profile Configuration.
    > > When u plug in the handfree set, it doesn't immediately switch to
    > > handfree, sometimes, u gotta wait up to 5sec before the handfree profile
    > > comes out. Too slow for my liking. Also, when plugging in the handfree set,
    > > u would expect all sound to come from the headset right ? No, u are wrong,
    > > the phone itself will still ring, will still "click" when u take picture,
    > > etc. I mean, it doesn't make sense.

    >
    > Heh, I wondered for bloody ages what the 'three squares' icon at the
    > display top meant... then realised it indicates you're handsfree. WTF?
    >
    > > 8. Ringing tone.
    > > The ringing tone is just damm soft. Even at loudest, it's so much softer
    > > than nokia phone ( Put them side by side to compare), that means i get to
    > > miss call more often at crowded and noisy places, compare to my nokia phone
    > > in the past. Also, u notice that T610 ALWAYS ring from a soft volume and
    > > slowly increase the ringing tone to the normal volume after 2-3 Seconds.
    > > There's no way you can set it so that it just ring normally as what the
    > > ringing tone was set to. This mean that you might not hear the phone ring
    > > for the first couple of seconds because it's always ringing so damm bloody
    > > softly, and by the time u hear the ring, the phone had been ringing for 5/6
    > > Seconds already, and before u could answer it, the person on the other end
    > > hang up. I got a lot of cases where the person just hanged up when/before i
    > > answer the call. This happens very much more frequently than when i was
    > > using my previous phone. Might be just me, but then again, i am comparing
    > > the my previous phone and my current T610.

    >
    > Aah yes, that damned daft 'someone may go deaf if the phone rings while
    > they're sleeping on it' crap. Coupled with my providers max ringing
    > before going to voicemail it's a right PITA, so I turned off voicemail
    > altogether.
    > Yes, the tones sound great but they are soooo quiet, aren't they? My
    > wife couldn't believe how quiet the same ringtone file is on my T610
    > compared to her 7250i.
    >
    > > Off hand, these are the main things that i find that the phone sucks in.
    > > Really regretted getting this phone.

    >
    > I almost regret gettin it too, but after playing with my wife's 7250i, I
    > see it has fewer shortcomings than the Nokia. Nokia should really know
    > better.
    > --
    > Chewie.
    > http://www.chewie.org.uk
    > http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html





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