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  1. #1
    MS
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    Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there any
    other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?

    Could anyone compare advantages and disadvantages of these phones? Not only
    in their Bluetooth
    implementation, but in their overall features and qualities (including of
    course BT, but everything else as well).

    Thank you in advance for any feedback. :-)





    See More: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.




  2. #2
    Avanti
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    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there any
    > other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?


    The question is so daft , I''m sure this is troll material.
    [other twaddle snipped]





  3. #3
    MS
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    "Avanti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there any
    > > other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?

    >
    > The question is so daft , I''m sure this is troll material.
    > [other twaddle snipped]


    Well, you sound like you may well be a troll.

    The question was not "daft" at all, and my other sentences were not at all
    "twaddle". But I guess that's all a troll like you can see.

    Why is asking if there are other GSM clamshell phones with Bluetooth,
    besides the ones I mentioned, "daft"????? Please explain. And that was not
    the main part of my question which was to compare these models, describe
    their advantages and disadvantages, etc. Isn't comparison of phone features
    a frequent topic of discussion on cellular newsgroups and discussion boards?

    I guess only a troll would see that as "troll material". Everything is
    "troll material" to a troll.





  4. #4
    Avanti
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:108478344[email protected]
    >
    > "Avanti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there

    any
    > > > other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?

    > >
    > > The question is so daft , I''m sure this is troll material.
    > > [other twaddle snipped]

    >
    > Well, you sound like you may well be a troll.
    >
    > The question was not "daft" at all, and my other sentences were not at all
    > "twaddle". But I guess that's all a troll like you can see.


    So why has no one answered ?
    afterall look how many Ng you posted to.
    Case closed!





  5. #5
    MS
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    "Avanti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > So why has no one answered ?
    > afterall look how many Ng you posted to.
    > Case closed!


    I don't know why I'm wasting my time answering you, as you obviously are a
    troll.

    A lot of newsgroup threads are "unanswered". That doesn't make the original
    poster a "troll". Besides, it was just posted yesterday. Doesn't mean
    anything, that there are no answers yet. Unfortunate, that the only "answer
    was by a troll who calls himself "Avanti" who goes looking for posts in
    which to attack the poster, and call the poster what he himself is, a
    "troll:.

    Unfortunately, I think such trollery as you are engaged in might well
    dissuade serious posters from engaging in this discussion. I hope not. A
    discussion and comparison of these phones might well interest many people,
    and I hope they are not so put off by your trollery that they don't want to
    get involved in this discussion.

    I think I am making a mistake by responding to you, As they say, "don't feed
    the trolls". Trolls like you just write to get attention for themselves, and
    by responding to you, I'm giving you that. Better to ignore you. I think
    from now on I'll try to ignore you, or perhaps killfile you.

    So--sorry other readers, that I responded to this troll. But I hope others
    who are interested or have knowledge of the phones I mentioned will still
    get involved in this discussion, and ignore this guy.





  6. #6
    Avanti
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Avanti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > So why has no one answered ?
    > > afterall look how many Ng you posted to.
    > > Case closed!

    >
    > I don't know why I'm wasting my time answering you, as you obviously are a
    > troll.
    >
    > A lot of newsgroup threads are "unanswered". That doesn't make the

    original
    > poster a "troll". Besides, it was just posted yesterday. Doesn't mean
    > anything, that there are no answers yet. Unfortunate, that the only

    "answer
    > was by a troll who calls himself "Avanti" who goes looking for posts in
    > which to attack the poster, and call the poster what he himself is, a
    > "troll:.
    >
    > Unfortunately, I think such trollery as you are engaged in might well
    > dissuade serious posters from engaging in this discussion. I hope not. A
    > discussion and comparison of these phones might well interest many people,
    > and I hope they are not so put off by your trollery that they don't want

    to
    > get involved in this discussion.
    >
    > I think I am making a mistake by responding to you, As they say, "don't

    feed
    > the trolls". Trolls like you just write to get attention for themselves,

    and
    > by responding to you, I'm giving you that. Better to ignore you. I think
    > from now on I'll try to ignore you, or perhaps killfile you.
    >
    > So--sorry other readers, that I responded to this troll. But I hope others
    > who are interested or have knowledge of the phones I mentioned will still
    > get involved in this discussion, and ignore this guy.


    Sulk all you like, if you look I post asking qusetions too, no one asked you
    to reply to my post, at this stage the only person looking like a troll is
    you.





  7. #7
    Jeandré Lennox
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.

    Anwer to the question: The V500/600 and Z600 are the only "clam" phones
    with BT at the moment. However the Motorola MPX220 is on its way and will
    be a huge improvement on the MPX200 and because it is Windows based,
    synching will be a breeze. Hope this helps a bit.

    "Avanti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "Avanti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > So why has no one answered ?
    > > > afterall look how many Ng you posted to.
    > > > Case closed!

    > >
    > > I don't know why I'm wasting my time answering you, as you obviously are

    a
    > > troll.
    > >
    > > A lot of newsgroup threads are "unanswered". That doesn't make the

    > original
    > > poster a "troll". Besides, it was just posted yesterday. Doesn't mean
    > > anything, that there are no answers yet. Unfortunate, that the only

    > "answer
    > > was by a troll who calls himself "Avanti" who goes looking for posts in
    > > which to attack the poster, and call the poster what he himself is, a
    > > "troll:.
    > >
    > > Unfortunately, I think such trollery as you are engaged in might well
    > > dissuade serious posters from engaging in this discussion. I hope not. A
    > > discussion and comparison of these phones might well interest many

    people,
    > > and I hope they are not so put off by your trollery that they don't want

    > to
    > > get involved in this discussion.
    > >
    > > I think I am making a mistake by responding to you, As they say, "don't

    > feed
    > > the trolls". Trolls like you just write to get attention for themselves,

    > and
    > > by responding to you, I'm giving you that. Better to ignore you. I think
    > > from now on I'll try to ignore you, or perhaps killfile you.
    > >
    > > So--sorry other readers, that I responded to this troll. But I hope

    others
    > > who are interested or have knowledge of the phones I mentioned will

    still
    > > get involved in this discussion, and ignore this guy.

    >
    > Sulk all you like, if you look I post asking qusetions too, no one asked

    you
    > to reply to my post, at this stage the only person looking like a troll is
    > you.
    >
    >






  8. #8
    MS
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    "Jeandré Lennox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Anwer to the question: The V500/600 and Z600 are the only "clam" phones
    > with BT at the moment. However the Motorola MPX220 is on its way and will
    > be a huge improvement on the MPX200 and because it is Windows based,
    > synching will be a breeze. Hope this helps a bit.


    Thank you for your reply. (I'll ignore the troll from now on.)

    I have also read about the Panasonic X-70, that's another one available now.

    Are you sure the MPX220 is "on its way"? There was much talk of it some
    months ago, but it's usually never mentioned anymore. Instead, Motorola has
    been announcing two other smartphones to come out later this year, the
    Mpx100 (not a clamshell) and one just called Mpx. (First discussed as
    "MPX300", but later just as "MPX".) The 220 is never mentioned any more.
    That one did appeal to me, but I got the impression that Moto dropped it.

    If you do have any information that the 220 is really coming out (URL?), do
    you have any idea when?

    Do you know of any comparisons between V500/600 and Z600?

    Thanks again.





  9. #9
    Avanti
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Jeandré Lennox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Anwer to the question: The V500/600 and Z600 are the only "clam" phones
    > > with BT at the moment.


    So is the Panasonic X70 which was available before the Moto V5/600 series.

    > However the Motorola MPX220 is on its way and will
    > > be a huge improvement on the MPX200 and because it is Windows based,
    > > synching will be a breeze. Hope this helps a bit.

    >
    > Thank you for your reply. (I'll ignore the troll from now on.)


    Still sulking little boy?






  10. #10
    [ darkside ]
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there any
    > other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?
    >
    > Could anyone compare advantages and disadvantages of these phones? Not

    only
    > in their Bluetooth
    > implementation, but in their overall features and qualities (including of
    > course BT, but everything else as well).
    >
    > Thank you in advance for any feedback. :-)
    >
    >


    I have a Moto V600 and am very impressed with it so far. I have had no
    trouble with BT connecting to my MSI dongle on the desktop, the Dell D600
    and my Palm although I have not yet used the phone to dial via the Tungsten.
    There is a lot of control using Phone Tools and I can sync my phone book,
    back up and transfer rings/pics/vids with this software. Java apps are
    installed by 'pushing' them through the BT drivers from the PC.

    The camera, while low quality, is surprisingly useful at 640x480. The phone
    body of the Moto feels exceedingly well built.

    My only other experience is the X70. While it has BT, Panasonic have so far
    ignored my friends request for support with BT sync to the PC. Evidently
    this is not supported via the software.

    Photos from the X70 are very low pixel.

    HTH





  11. #11
    Avanti
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    "[ darkside ]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there any
    > > other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?
    > >
    > > Could anyone compare advantages and disadvantages of these phones? Not

    > only
    > > in their Bluetooth
    > > implementation, but in their overall features and qualities (including

    of
    > > course BT, but everything else as well).
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance for any feedback. :-)
    > >
    > >

    >
    > I have a Moto V600 and am very impressed with it so far.


    I have a V600 and am growing to be dissapointed with it, the unit started to
    failt to 'give' sms messages to the pc via the lead and MPT, intermittently
    the sounder would not alert when txt or calls came in, Orange decided to
    replace the unit, so today the courier delivered the handset, now I can get
    my sms, but after syncing the BT headset, it was full of audio distortion
    both ways and whilst I can pair it with my palm, the unit would not allow
    connection for the modem, what I did notice though is the camera is much
    better than the returned handset and is actually able to take decent
    pictures even at night although from the viewer it brightened the sky ,
    Orange have suggested I now contact Motorola which I will do on thursday. it
    is much better than the x70 though.





  12. #12
    MS
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.


    Thanks for the reply. I have heard that the V600 will be available soon
    through T-Mobile (my carrier), so I might just end up buying one.

    "[ darkside ]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > " MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Motorola v600 and 500, Sony-Ericsson Z600, Panasonic X-70. Are there any
    > > other GSM phones with Bluetooth in a clamshell form factor?
    > >
    > > Could anyone compare advantages and disadvantages of these phones? Not

    > only
    > > in their Bluetooth
    > > implementation, but in their overall features and qualities (including

    of
    > > course BT, but everything else as well).
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance for any feedback. :-)
    > >
    > >

    >
    > I have a Moto V600 and am very impressed with it so far. I have had no
    > trouble with BT connecting to my MSI dongle on the desktop, the Dell D600
    > and my Palm although I have not yet used the phone to dial via the

    Tungsten.
    > There is a lot of control using Phone Tools and I can sync my phone book,
    > back up and transfer rings/pics/vids with this software. Java apps are
    > installed by 'pushing' them through the BT drivers from the PC.
    >
    > The camera, while low quality, is surprisingly useful at 640x480. The

    phone
    > body of the Moto feels exceedingly well built.
    >
    > My only other experience is the X70. While it has BT, Panasonic have so

    far
    > ignored my friends request for support with BT sync to the PC. Evidently
    > this is not supported via the software.
    >
    > Photos from the X70 are very low pixel.
    >
    > HTH
    >
    >






  13. #13
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: V600 vs. Z600, X-70, V500, etc.

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Wed, 19 May 2004 13:36:45 +0200,
    "Jeandré Lennox" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Anwer to the question: The V500/600 and Z600 are the only "clam" phones
    >with BT at the moment. However the Motorola MPX220 is on its way and will
    >be a huge improvement on the MPX200 and because it is Windows based,
    >synching will be a breeze. Hope this helps a bit.


    The Z600 isn't Windows based (thank God), yet syncing is still a breeze.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>



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