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  1. #1
    Ben C
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    Hi everyone

    On the P910i, how do you insert a pause into a phone number in your address
    book? I want to use a calling card in my address book which dials a local
    number, pauses, then dials a PIN code, pauses, and then dials another
    number.

    On my old P800, I could insert the 'p' character into the telephone number
    field and it would do this, but on my P910i it doesn't work. Does anyone
    know if this functionality has been dropped or changed somehow? Any
    suggestions or tips greatly appreciated...

    TIA,
    Ben





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  2. #2
    pete devlin
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    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    In message <[email protected]>, Ben C <[email protected]>
    writes
    >Hi everyone
    >
    >On the P910i, how do you insert a pause into a phone number in your address
    >book? I want to use a calling card in my address book which dials a local
    >number, pauses, then dials a PIN code, pauses, and then dials another
    >number.
    >
    >On my old P800, I could insert the 'p' character into the telephone number
    >field and it would do this, but on my P910i it doesn't work. Does anyone
    >know if this functionality has been dropped or changed somehow? Any
    >suggestions or tips greatly appreciated...
    >

    Press and hold the * key. It changes to a p.
    --
    Pete Devlin
    [{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
    Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world.
    Kaiser Wilhelm



  3. #3
    Ben C
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    "pete devlin" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Press and hold the * key. It changes to a p.


    Perhaps you misunderstood. What I am saying is that on the P910i, 'p' no
    longer pauses. Any other ideas anyone?





  4. #4
    streetwise
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?


    "Ben C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    | "pete devlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | > Press and hold the * key. It changes to a p.
    |
    | Perhaps you misunderstood. What I am saying is that on the P910i, 'p' no
    | longer pauses. Any other ideas anyone?
    |
    |


    RTFM




  5. #5
    Ben C
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    "streetwise" <.> wrote:
    >
    > RTFM
    >


    That's clever. No really, I am dazzled by your so-called 'streetwise'
    insight. Pretending this is trivial just highlights the fact that you have
    no clue.

    The 200 page manual only refers to this issue obliquely on page 48, and it
    illustrates that 'p' should pause a sequence of tones. The only problem is
    that it doesn't work. Everything before the 'p' dials fine. Everything
    beyond the 'p' doesn't get sent.

    So, once again, does anyone have any other ideas? Can anybody with a P910i
    actually get this to work without having to copy and paste or dial multiple
    but separate strings of numbers? I would really appreciate any positive
    suggestions (no need to embarass yourself again 'streetwise'. I'm not a
    newbie at this...)





  6. #6
    Ben C
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    SOLUTION BELOW:
    "Ben C" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On the P910, how do you insert a pause into a phone number in your
    > address book? I want to use a calling card in my address book which dials
    > a local number, pauses, then dials a PIN code, pauses, and then dials
    > another number. On my old P800, I could insert the 'p' character into the
    > telephone number field and it would do this, but on my P910i it doesn't
    > work. Does anyone know if this functionality has been dropped or changed
    > somehow? Any suggestions or tips greatly appreciated...


    For anyone else struggling with this, here is the solution. SE has changed
    the way that Pause works on the P910i and the explanation in the manual is
    now wrong. I doubt they intended to break the functionality with this
    change - it looks like a straight bug. Until it is fixed, here is the
    workaround:

    The manual says (p50) that: 'Each digit sequence to be sent as tones must
    begin with p. A space will end the tone sequence and you can add a comment
    after the space.' Unfortunately, the presence of any space characters
    anywhere after the 'p' (even at the end of a sequence of numbers) makes the
    pause function fail completely. In this case, any tones after the pause
    will not be sent at all. Space characters before the first pause in a
    sequence of tones are fine however and will not interfere with the numbers
    being sent. If you are having trouble, you should ensure that there are no
    spaces ANYWHERE after the first 'p' in your sequence of tones.





  7. #7
    pete devlin
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    In message <[email protected]>, Ben C <[email protected]>
    writes
    >The manual says (p50) that: 'Each digit sequence to be sent as tones
    >must begin with p. A space will end the tone sequence and you can add
    >a comment after the space.' Unfortunately, the presence of any space
    >characters anywhere after the 'p' (even at the end of a sequence of
    >numbers) makes the pause function fail completely. In this case, any
    >tones after the pause will not be sent at all. Space characters before
    >the first pause in a sequence of tones are fine however and will not
    >interfere with the numbers being sent. If you are having trouble, you
    >should ensure that there are no spaces ANYWHERE after the first 'p' in
    >your sequence of tones.


    Why would you want to add a comment or space in the number? Surely this
    would go in another field of the address book?
    --
    Pete Devlin
    [{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
    Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world.
    Kaiser Wilhelm



  8. #8
    Ben C
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    "pete devlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Why would you want to add a comment or space in the number? Surely this
    > would go in another field of the address book?


    Spaces in long numbers make them easier to read and edit. This is why
    people tend to write down phone numbers with brackets, hyphens and/or spaces
    in them rather than a long string of numbers where it is easier to lose your
    place. Adding comments can give an extra level of detail beyond just Work
    and Home.

    For example, I use a calling card to make international calls through my
    mobile. T-Mobile treat this as just a local call, so it is hugely cheaper
    than dialling direct. To do this, I program the phone with the calling card
    phone number, then the PIN, then the foreign number I want to reach,
    separated with pauses. A typical entry looks like this:

    'Parents: (020) 7028 7382 p 12345678901 p 007 987 654 3210'

    If I need to change the PIN, I just edit the middle bunch of numbers. The
    spaces let me do this more easily, as the stylus on a touch-screen phone
    like the P910i can be a bit fiddly - you can easily miss a character and
    accidentally delete something unintentionally. The comment up-front (some
    people like it afterwards) tells me which number is which when I have five
    or six numbers within one entry.

    If I used another field of the address book, dialling becomes much more
    complicated. I then have to dial the first number, then go back to the
    address book, open the same address book entry, and then select another
    number. I would much rather just pick one up-front and dial it without the
    extra hassle...

    You know, I remember when phones had dials on them...

    :-)





  9. #9
    pete devlin
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    In message <[email protected]>, Ben C <[email protected]>
    writes
    [snip]
    >
    >If I used another field of the address book, dialling becomes much more
    >complicated. I then have to dial the first number, then go back to the
    >address book, open the same address book entry, and then select another
    >number. I would much rather just pick one up-front and dial it without the
    >extra hassle...
    >
    >You know, I remember when phones had dials on them...
    >

    Thanks for the suck eggs lesson on calling cards and international calls
    )
    My point was that you store a number in a phone book to make it easy.
    You press the button and off you go. You don't need to look at it every
    time and be satisfied that you are content with the break up of the
    number and how its constituent parts are put together. I have a few such
    nos on my phone and would never dream of putting in spaces or comments.
    If I really needed a comment, I would put it in the corresponding info
    field. I also wouldn't dream of entering them on the phone either,
    unless I could possibly help it of course. That's what synch is for!
    --
    Pete Devlin
    [{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
    Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world.
    Kaiser Wilhelm



  10. #10
    Ben C
    Guest

    Re: How to insert pause into a phone number?

    "pete devlin" <[email protected]> wrote: in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Thanks for the suck eggs lesson on calling cards and international calls
    > )
    > My point was that you store a number in a phone book to make it easy. You
    > press the button and off you go. You don't need to look at it every time
    > and be satisfied that you are content with the break up of the number and
    > how its constituent parts are put together. I have a few such nos on my
    > phone and would never dream of putting in spaces or comments. If I really
    > needed a comment, I would put it in the corresponding info field. I also
    > wouldn't dream of entering them on the phone either, unless I could
    > possibly help it of course. That's what synch is for!


    Maybe. But like I said, if the PIN needs frequent editing I find the spaces
    helpful, especially on a touch-screen phone like the P910i. From your
    earlier comment about holding down the * key until it becomes a 'p', I guess
    you don't have a P910 - even if you could do this on a P910, you wouldn't
    want to when you can just write/type what you want. Regardless, everyone
    has their own preferred way and there is no 'right' way to do this. I am
    sure some there are other approaches that are just as valid too...

    Now, I could start another thread on how hopeless the sync functionality is.
    Ah yes, I did that already on 19th Dec!





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