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  1. #1
    Lewis
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    This is an exciting looking phone. With a big bonus (IMO), shipping with
    Opera's browser. Any ideas on what the pricing will be? This is the
    first I've heard about this model.

    http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6217.html




    See More: New P990 review




  2. #2
    veerags
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    Re: New P990 review

    I have a p910a (and had a p800 before that) and one of the things that
    really stand out is the keyboard on the back of the keyflip. The
    keyflip can increase the size of the screen and become a PDA or when
    not used can become a cell phone (which is the most important use of
    the device). By doing away with that, there really is no reason to buy
    the p990 instead of the Palm 700 (other than that you are a rabid
    anti-u$ fanatic). You can argue that the P910a's design might result in
    higher strain on the hinges. But I found the hinges to be pretty sturdy
    and I always use my index fingers to support the body of the phone
    while I use the thumb to do the typing.

    This is a step back for the P series and i hope SonyEricsson will
    change it.




  3. #3
    Martin
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    Re: New P990 review


    "veerags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >I have a p910a (and had a p800 before that) and one of the things that
    > really stand out is the keyboard on the back of the keyflip. The
    > keyflip can increase the size of the screen and become a PDA or when
    > not used can become a cell phone (which is the most important use of
    > the device). By doing away with that, there really is no reason to buy
    > the p990 instead of the Palm 700 (other than that you are a rabid
    > anti-u$ fanatic). You can argue that the P910a's design might result in
    > higher strain on the hinges. But I found the hinges to be pretty sturdy
    > and I always use my index fingers to support the body of the phone
    > while I use the thumb to do the typing.
    >
    > This is a step back for the P series and i hope SonyEricsson will
    > change it.
    >


    I own a P910i and it is quite a good phone, but as a PDA replacement it's a
    failure. I just love my Palm T3, the screen quality is much better than the
    P910i and the applications are also better.

    As a temporary replacement it works if you don't want to carry two devices
    around (only one shirt pocket!) and the camera is toilet.

    Martin





  4. #4
    M. Saddy
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    Re: New P990 review

    I agree with you! I was waiting for this but if it is coming out with the
    hard keyboard I am going to start looking at Pocketpc!!


    "veerags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >I have a p910a (and had a p800 before that) and one of the things that
    > really stand out is the keyboard on the back of the keyflip. The
    > keyflip can increase the size of the screen and become a PDA or when
    > not used can become a cell phone (which is the most important use of
    > the device). By doing away with that, there really is no reason to buy
    > the p990 instead of the Palm 700 (other than that you are a rabid
    > anti-u$ fanatic). You can argue that the P910a's design might result in
    > higher strain on the hinges. But I found the hinges to be pretty sturdy
    > and I always use my index fingers to support the body of the phone
    > while I use the thumb to do the typing.
    >
    > This is a step back for the P series and i hope SonyEricsson will
    > change it.
    >






  5. #5
    Martin
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    Re: New P990 review


    "M. Saddy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >I agree with you! I was waiting for this but if it is coming out with the
    >hard keyboard I am going to start looking at Pocketpc!!
    >


    I own an old Pocket PC which I now use for GPS in the car and HPC (LG
    Phenom) a Psion 3a, a Psion 5mx a Sony Clie TJ35 a Palm T3 and the P910i.
    Out of all those none of them is perfect.

    The LG Phenom has a really good keyboard and screen but is bulky, the Psion
    3a is really just an organiser, the Psion 5mx is a great machine for writing
    long emails and web browsing and the T3 is a good all rounder when used with
    a Bluetooth keyboard.

    But overall none of them are perfect. The P910i is good for short term use,
    but I feel the ultimate PDA is still to be built.

    Martin





  6. #6
    Ivan Herman
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    Re: New P990 review

    I fully agree with you. I use the keyboard of my P910i pretty often and it
    really looks like a good compromise. If my understanding of the review and the
    pictures is right, the P990 puts the keyboard on the lower half of the screen,
    ie, under the keyflip. However, that means that the size of the display is cut
    by a third at least. That is also a huge step back for any of the PDA
    functionalities that I use daily (calendar, various databases, web browsing,
    etc). If it stays that way, I am afraid my next phone/pda will not be the
    P990... :-(

    Ivan

    -------- Original Message --------
    From: "veerags" <[email protected]>
    To:
    Subject: Re:New P990 review
    Date: 11/10/2005 18:44

    > I have a p910a (and had a p800 before that) and one of the things that
    > really stand out is the keyboard on the back of the keyflip. The
    > keyflip can increase the size of the screen and become a PDA or when
    > not used can become a cell phone (which is the most important use of
    > the device). By doing away with that, there really is no reason to buy
    > the p990 instead of the Palm 700 (other than that you are a rabid
    > anti-u$ fanatic). You can argue that the P910a's design might result in
    > higher strain on the hinges. But I found the hinges to be pretty sturdy
    > and I always use my index fingers to support the body of the phone
    > while I use the thumb to do the typing.
    >
    > This is a step back for the P series and i hope SonyEricsson will
    > change it.
    >




  7. #7
    Oliver Brose
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review

    Ivan Herman wrote:
    > I fully agree with you. I use the keyboard of my P910i pretty often and it
    > really looks like a good compromise. If my understanding of the review and the
    > pictures is right, the P990 puts the keyboard on the lower half of the screen,
    > ie, under the keyflip. However, that means that the size of the display is cut
    > by a third at least.


    Have a look at the resolution please.

    Oliver



  8. #8
    Shak
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review

    "Oliver Brose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Ivan Herman wrote:
    > > I fully agree with you. I use the keyboard of my P910i pretty often and

    it
    > > really looks like a good compromise. If my understanding of the review

    and the
    > > pictures is right, the P990 puts the keyboard on the lower half of the

    screen,
    > > ie, under the keyflip. However, that means that the size of the display

    is cut
    > > by a third at least.

    >
    > Have a look at the resolution please.
    >


    I agree with yoru sentiment. One of the things that I've always disliked
    about the P800/900/910 was the weird screen aspect. It's way too narrow for
    me to use efficiently.

    Shak





  9. #9
    Martin
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    Re: New P990 review


    "Shak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Oliver Brose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Ivan Herman wrote:
    >> > I fully agree with you. I use the keyboard of my P910i pretty often and

    > it
    >> > really looks like a good compromise. If my understanding of the review

    > and the
    >> > pictures is right, the P990 puts the keyboard on the lower half of the

    > screen,
    >> > ie, under the keyflip. However, that means that the size of the display

    > is cut
    >> > by a third at least.

    >>
    >> Have a look at the resolution please.
    >>

    >
    > I agree with yoru sentiment. One of the things that I've always disliked
    > about the P800/900/910 was the weird screen aspect. It's way too narrow
    > for
    > me to use efficiently.
    >
    > Shak
    >
    >


    Not only that but if you use the full screen with the flip down I find that
    the phone won't stand up properly in the cradle of my Bluetooth Keyboard. It
    is too narrow as well.

    Martin





  10. #10

    Re: New P990 review


    Problem is and will be until the flexi screens become reality the size of
    the screen.

    Using a pocketpc as a phone makes you look like a nob, no excuses please you
    know what I mean ! :-)

    The p910 etc is the trade off. Its smaller so you can maintain your dignity
    but also useful for what it targets itself as. Like most here I've tried
    all types of these devices and found the p910 the best so far. I do agree
    with the earlier statement of the perfect pda/phone hasn't been designed
    yet. It will be once my first statement comes true tho.


    :-)




  11. #11
    veerags
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review

    I was talking about the screen size.




  12. #12
    w4tch3r
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > I fully agree with you. I use the keyboard of my P910i pretty often and it
    > really looks like a good compromise. If my understanding of the review and the
    > pictures is right, the P990 puts the keyboard on the lower half of the screen,
    > ie, under the keyflip. However, that means that the size of the display is cut
    > by a third at least. That is also a huge step back for any of the PDA
    > functionalities that I use daily (calendar, various databases, web browsing,
    > etc). If it stays that way, I am afraid my next phone/pda will not be the
    > P990... :-(
    >
    > Ivan



    I would have to agree also. I really like the big screen on the 910.
    You can talk about resolutions, but then if its too high, it just makes
    it harder to read.

    Its a pity they couldn't find a better solution to the 910's
    shortcomings. eg redesign of the flap (maybe a popkeys type flap) or
    reversible flap or something.

    w4tch3r



  13. #13
    Chris Gadsby
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review

    yep - I like the keyboard on the flap to. I run IM sessions on the phone and
    its idea for that.

    w4tch3r wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > says...
    >
    >>I fully agree with you. I use the keyboard of my P910i pretty often and it
    >>really looks like a good compromise. If my understanding of the review and the
    >>pictures is right, the P990 puts the keyboard on the lower half of the screen,
    >>ie, under the keyflip. However, that means that the size of the display is cut
    >>by a third at least. That is also a huge step back for any of the PDA
    >>functionalities that I use daily (calendar, various databases, web browsing,
    >>etc). If it stays that way, I am afraid my next phone/pda will not be the
    >>P990... :-(
    >>
    >>Ivan

    >
    >
    >
    > I would have to agree also. I really like the big screen on the 910.
    > You can talk about resolutions, but then if its too high, it just makes
    > it harder to read.
    >
    > Its a pity they couldn't find a better solution to the 910's
    > shortcomings. eg redesign of the flap (maybe a popkeys type flap) or
    > reversible flap or something.
    >
    > w4tch3r




  14. #14
    Chris G.
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review


    "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I own an old Pocket PC which I now use for GPS in the car and HPC (LG
    > Phenom) a Psion 3a, a Psion 5mx a Sony Clie TJ35 a Palm T3 and the P910i.
    > Out of all those none of them is perfect.
    >
    > The LG Phenom has a really good keyboard and screen but is bulky, the
    > Psion 3a is really just an organiser, the Psion 5mx is a great machine for
    > writing long emails and web browsing and the T3 is a good all rounder when
    > used with a Bluetooth keyboard.
    >
    > But overall none of them are perfect. The P910i is good for short term
    > use, but I feel the ultimate PDA is still to be built.


    Agree with all the sentiments expressed here - having read this review, the
    P990's not likely to be my next phone. Looks like it'll be the the Samsung
    SGH-i300, to be honest....

    --
    Chris
    : )





  15. #15
    Andy Turner
    Guest

    Re: New P990 review

    On 13 Oct 2005 13:02:13 -0700, "veerags" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I was talking about the screen size.


    2.8" diagonal on both the P900/910 and the P990.


    andyt




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