URGENT: last minute question about t610 before I get one!

In article <[email protected]>, Dan Altemyr
<[email protected]> wrote:

> "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Please don't spoil my fun! I really like the T610 and am looking forward
> to
> > (hopefully) getting one tomorrow.
> >
> >
> Of course not! The T610 seems to be a great phone, and it seems like
> everyone has one nowadays, (except me, I think I will have to keep my T39 a
> little while longer), so go for it!

I have just moved to T68i from T39m given the value for money of a T68i
these days. Also, the late firmware should be relatively bug free. In
use, I note that RF reception is no different in between the two. On
the negative side, T68i sounded a tad tinnier than T39m.

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"Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > Why buy something that you are not going to use? Do
> > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
>
> Can you find a car with only first gear?

Actually, as WW2 had ended, farmers here in Sweden were allowed to convert
used cars to vehicles to pull various tools needed on the fields, and were
allowed to use them without a driver's licence, provided that the gearbox
was jammed so that only one or two gears plus the reverese gear could be
used, thus limiting the maximum speed to about 30 kilometers per hour.
Passenger seats should also be removed, and there shold be a platform for
cargo available too. These kinds of vehicles have survived up to today's
date, and cars ar still converted to this kind of crippled vehicle by young
people who want to drive a "car" a few years before they are allowed to
drive a real one and are able to obtain a driver's licence for it. Nowadays,
the same license that is required to drive a motorcycle is required.

Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear, but
that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots of
functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in Sweden
that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000 subscribers
of the GPRS services.

In this particular case, it seems that I have somewhat misunderstood "J.
Peterman", but I think that we have cleared that out.

/Dan

In article <[email protected]>, Dan Altemyr
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear, but
> that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots of
> functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
> there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in Sweden
> that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000 subscribers
> of the GPRS services.

Does anyone really need that Porsche in the middle of Manhattan?

Uhhh... Flash factor? Chick puller?

Keypad is really hard to press !

"Dental Stud(ent)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I get about 5 days on my T616 without using too much GPRS or camera, and
> play a fair amount of games on it. That is unless I take it into my
> basement and leave it there b/c I live in a crap signal area and it's
always
> switching between different carriers weak signals--then I get about 4
days.
>
>
> "Dan Altemyr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > What's the battery life like on this phone? I wont be using any WAP or
> > GPRS
> > > stuff. Just calls, sms, and maybe turning the light on to fiddle with
my
> > > phone a bit. Pics arent a big thing for me (I've gotten that out of my
> > > system).
> >
> > My only thought is, that there are many other phones out there on the
> market
> > that don't support WAP, GPRS, Bluetooth, IR, etc, and without the
built-in
> > camera, but with better battery capacity, and they are probably a lot
> > cheaper than the T610. Why buy something that you are not going to use?
Do
> > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> > According to SE, the standby time is up to 300 hours, whether this is
> > correct or not probably depends on the way the phone is being used. The
> IR,
> > Bluetooth, display light, etc all consume a lot of the battery charge,
as
> > well as using the phone in an area with poor RF reception.
> >
> > --
> > /Dan
> > ________________________________________________
> > email: d a n (dot) a l t e m y r (at) t e l i a (dot) c o m
> >
> >
>
>

I don't mind it so much. I've typed in my whole phonebook (for practice) and
used as many of my free sms last night and didn't really mind it. Strange,
cos I thought it could be a problem.

However, I have used plenty worse than this. My other two phones suck. Nokia
7650 gets too much dust in it and eventually some buttons don't register
unless you press them extra hard. And, you can't open it to clean it at all.
My Motorola A830 is hard to press like T610, but the buttons are a little
more "squishy", so yeah, T610 is ok in my books.

"news.new" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Keypad is really hard to press !
>
> "Dental Stud(ent)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I get about 5 days on my T616 without using too much GPRS or camera, and
> > play a fair amount of games on it. That is unless I take it into my
> > basement and leave it there b/c I live in a crap signal area and it's
> always
> > switching between different carriers weak signals--then I get about 4
> days.
> >
> >
> > "Dan Altemyr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > What's the battery life like on this phone? I wont be using any WAP
or
> > > GPRS
> > > > stuff. Just calls, sms, and maybe turning the light on to fiddle
with
> my
> > > > phone a bit. Pics arent a big thing for me (I've gotten that out of
my
> > > > system).
> > >
> > > My only thought is, that there are many other phones out there on the
> > market
> > > that don't support WAP, GPRS, Bluetooth, IR, etc, and without the
> built-in
> > > camera, but with better battery capacity, and they are probably a lot
> > > cheaper than the T610. Why buy something that you are not going to
use?
> Do
> > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> > > According to SE, the standby time is up to 300 hours, whether this is
> > > correct or not probably depends on the way the phone is being used.
The
> > IR,
> > > Bluetooth, display light, etc all consume a lot of the battery charge,
> as
> > > well as using the phone in an area with poor RF reception.
> > >
> > > --
> > > /Dan
> > > ________________________________________________
> > > email: d a n (dot) a l t e m y r (at) t e l i a (dot) c o m
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> > > Why buy something that you are not going to use? Do
> > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> >
> > Can you find a car with only first gear?
>
> Actually, as WW2 had ended, farmers here in Sweden were allowed to convert
> used cars to vehicles to pull various tools needed on the fields, and were
> allowed to use them without a driver's licence, provided that the gearbox
> was jammed so that only one or two gears plus the reverese gear could be
> used, thus limiting the maximum speed to about 30 kilometers per hour.
> Passenger seats should also be removed, and there shold be a platform for
> cargo available too. These kinds of vehicles have survived up to today's
> date, and cars ar still converted to this kind of crippled vehicle by young
> people who want to drive a "car" a few years before they are allowed to
> drive a real one and are able to obtain a driver's licence for it. Nowadays,
> the same license that is required to drive a motorcycle is required.
>
> Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear, but
> that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots of
> functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
> there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in Sweden
> that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000 subscribers
> of the GPRS services.
>
> In this particular case, it seems that I have somewhat misunderstood "J.
> Peterman", but I think that we have cleared that out.

Sorry, I was just pulling your leg and forgot the smiley.
I just thought the analogy a little off - don't buy a phone with
features you don't need, like you buy a car with only first gear if you
don't go fast.

Very interesting though!
--
Chewie.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html

Correct. Phone life cycle is very short. Nuy one those with feature you
want.
You can always pick one another year later with better design and cheaper
price.

"Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> >
> > "Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] says...
> > > > Why buy something that you are not going to use? Do
> > > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> > >
> > > Can you find a car with only first gear?
> >
> > Actually, as WW2 had ended, farmers here in Sweden were allowed to
convert
> > used cars to vehicles to pull various tools needed on the fields, and
were
> > allowed to use them without a driver's licence, provided that the
gearbox
> > was jammed so that only one or two gears plus the reverese gear could be
> > used, thus limiting the maximum speed to about 30 kilometers per hour.
> > Passenger seats should also be removed, and there shold be a platform
for
> > cargo available too. These kinds of vehicles have survived up to today's
> > date, and cars ar still converted to this kind of crippled vehicle by
young
> > people who want to drive a "car" a few years before they are allowed to
> > drive a real one and are able to obtain a driver's licence for it.
Nowadays,
> > the same license that is required to drive a motorcycle is required.
> >
> > Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear,
but
> > that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots
of
> > functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
> > there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in
Sweden
> > that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000
subscribers
> > of the GPRS services.
> >
> > In this particular case, it seems that I have somewhat misunderstood "J.
> > Peterman", but I think that we have cleared that out.
>
> Sorry, I was just pulling your leg and forgot the smiley.
> I just thought the analogy a little off - don't buy a phone with
> features you don't need, like you buy a car with only first gear if you
> don't go fast.
>
> Very interesting though!
> --
> Chewie.
> http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html

"Dan Altemyr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <--discussion about the battery meter in the T68 cut out-->
>
> "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Actually, that's a really cool function I haven't seen on other phones.
Is
> > the reading accurate?
> >
>
> The battery meter is available on the T39 also,


I had it on my T39m, T29 and on my T28. I was horrified when it wasn't on
the T610...
SE also changed the menu-navigation, the key-lock and moved the
"Space"-button...
But I think the T610 is one of the best phones on the market nowadays...

--
Mvh

Helge Rygg

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:15:01 +0100, Chewie <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> "Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>> > > Why buy something that you are not going to use? Do
>> > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
>> >
>> > Can you find a car with only first gear?
>>
>> Actually, as WW2 had ended, farmers here in Sweden were allowed to convert
>> used cars to vehicles to pull various tools needed on the fields, and were
>> allowed to use them without a driver's licence, provided that the gearbox
>> was jammed so that only one or two gears plus the reverese gear could be
>> used, thus limiting the maximum speed to about 30 kilometers per hour.
>> Passenger seats should also be removed, and there shold be a platform for
>> cargo available too. These kinds of vehicles have survived up to today's
>> date, and cars ar still converted to this kind of crippled vehicle by young
>> people who want to drive a "car" a few years before they are allowed to
>> drive a real one and are able to obtain a driver's licence for it. Nowadays,
>> the same license that is required to drive a motorcycle is required.
>>
>> Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear, but
>> that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots of
>> functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
>> there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in Sweden
>> that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000 subscribers
>> of the GPRS services.
>>
>> In this particular case, it seems that I have somewhat misunderstood "J.
>> Peterman", but I think that we have cleared that out.
>
>Sorry, I was just pulling your leg and forgot the smiley.
>I just thought the analogy a little off - don't buy a phone with
>features you don't need, like you buy a car with only first gear if you
>don't go fast.
>
>Very interesting though!
BIT OF A KNOW NOTHING INTERESTING **** REALLY AREN'T YA

Keypad is really hard to press !

"Dental Stud(ent)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I get about 5 days on my T616 without using too much GPRS or camera, and
> play a fair amount of games on it. That is unless I take it into my
> basement and leave it there b/c I live in a crap signal area and it's
always
> switching between different carriers weak signals--then I get about 4
days.
>
>
> "Dan Altemyr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > What's the battery life like on this phone? I wont be using any WAP or
> > GPRS
> > > stuff. Just calls, sms, and maybe turning the light on to fiddle with
my
> > > phone a bit. Pics arent a big thing for me (I've gotten that out of my
> > > system).
> >
> > My only thought is, that there are many other phones out there on the
> market
> > that don't support WAP, GPRS, Bluetooth, IR, etc, and without the
built-in
> > camera, but with better battery capacity, and they are probably a lot
> > cheaper than the T610. Why buy something that you are not going to use?
Do
> > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> > According to SE, the standby time is up to 300 hours, whether this is
> > correct or not probably depends on the way the phone is being used. The
> IR,
> > Bluetooth, display light, etc all consume a lot of the battery charge,
as
> > well as using the phone in an area with poor RF reception.
> >
> > --
> > /Dan
> > ________________________________________________
> > email: d a n (dot) a l t e m y r (at) t e l i a (dot) c o m
> >
> >
>
>

I don't mind it so much. I've typed in my whole phonebook (for practice) and
used as many of my free sms last night and didn't really mind it. Strange,
cos I thought it could be a problem.

However, I have used plenty worse than this. My other two phones suck. Nokia
7650 gets too much dust in it and eventually some buttons don't register
unless you press them extra hard. And, you can't open it to clean it at all.
My Motorola A830 is hard to press like T610, but the buttons are a little
more "squishy", so yeah, T610 is ok in my books.

"news.new" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Keypad is really hard to press !
>
> "Dental Stud(ent)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I get about 5 days on my T616 without using too much GPRS or camera, and
> > play a fair amount of games on it. That is unless I take it into my
> > basement and leave it there b/c I live in a crap signal area and it's
> always
> > switching between different carriers weak signals--then I get about 4
> days.
> >
> >
> > "Dan Altemyr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > What's the battery life like on this phone? I wont be using any WAP
or
> > > GPRS
> > > > stuff. Just calls, sms, and maybe turning the light on to fiddle
with
> my
> > > > phone a bit. Pics arent a big thing for me (I've gotten that out of
my
> > > > system).
> > >
> > > My only thought is, that there are many other phones out there on the
> > market
> > > that don't support WAP, GPRS, Bluetooth, IR, etc, and without the
> built-in
> > > camera, but with better battery capacity, and they are probably a lot
> > > cheaper than the T610. Why buy something that you are not going to
use?
> Do
> > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> > > According to SE, the standby time is up to 300 hours, whether this is
> > > correct or not probably depends on the way the phone is being used.
The
> > IR,
> > > Bluetooth, display light, etc all consume a lot of the battery charge,
> as
> > > well as using the phone in an area with poor RF reception.
> > >
> > > --
> > > /Dan
> > > ________________________________________________
> > > email: d a n (dot) a l t e m y r (at) t e l i a (dot) c o m
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> > > Why buy something that you are not going to use? Do
> > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> >
> > Can you find a car with only first gear?
>
> Actually, as WW2 had ended, farmers here in Sweden were allowed to convert
> used cars to vehicles to pull various tools needed on the fields, and were
> allowed to use them without a driver's licence, provided that the gearbox
> was jammed so that only one or two gears plus the reverese gear could be
> used, thus limiting the maximum speed to about 30 kilometers per hour.
> Passenger seats should also be removed, and there shold be a platform for
> cargo available too. These kinds of vehicles have survived up to today's
> date, and cars ar still converted to this kind of crippled vehicle by young
> people who want to drive a "car" a few years before they are allowed to
> drive a real one and are able to obtain a driver's licence for it. Nowadays,
> the same license that is required to drive a motorcycle is required.
>
> Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear, but
> that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots of
> functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
> there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in Sweden
> that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000 subscribers
> of the GPRS services.
>
> In this particular case, it seems that I have somewhat misunderstood "J.
> Peterman", but I think that we have cleared that out.

Sorry, I was just pulling your leg and forgot the smiley.
I just thought the analogy a little off - don't buy a phone with
features you don't need, like you buy a car with only first gear if you
don't go fast.

Very interesting though!
--
Chewie.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html

Correct. Phone life cycle is very short. Nuy one those with feature you
want.
You can always pick one another year later with better design and cheaper
price.

"Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> >
> > "Chewie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] says...
> > > > Why buy something that you are not going to use? Do
> > > > you buy a car and only use the 1st gear too?
> > >
> > > Can you find a car with only first gear?
> >
> > Actually, as WW2 had ended, farmers here in Sweden were allowed to
convert
> > used cars to vehicles to pull various tools needed on the fields, and
were
> > allowed to use them without a driver's licence, provided that the
gearbox
> > was jammed so that only one or two gears plus the reverese gear could be
> > used, thus limiting the maximum speed to about 30 kilometers per hour.
> > Passenger seats should also be removed, and there shold be a platform
for
> > cargo available too. These kinds of vehicles have survived up to today's
> > date, and cars ar still converted to this kind of crippled vehicle by
young
> > people who want to drive a "car" a few years before they are allowed to
> > drive a real one and are able to obtain a driver's licence for it.
Nowadays,
> > the same license that is required to drive a motorcycle is required.
> >
> > Otherwise, my point was not actually to find a car with only one gear,
but
> > that I am a little confused about why people buy mobile phones with lots
of
> > functions that they are not planning to use. I just recently read, that
> > there have been sold between 1.5 and 2 million mobile phones here in
Sweden
> > that are ready for GPRS and WAP but there are only about 100.000
subscribers
> > of the GPRS services.
> >
> > In this particular case, it seems that I have somewhat misunderstood "J.
> > Peterman", but I think that we have cleared that out.
>
> Sorry, I was just pulling your leg and forgot the smiley.
> I just thought the analogy a little off - don't buy a phone with
> features you don't need, like you buy a car with only first gear if you
> don't go fast.
>
> Very interesting though!
> --
> Chewie.
> http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...843348,00.html

"Dan Altemyr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <--discussion about the battery meter in the T68 cut out-->
>
> "J. Peterman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Actually, that's a really cool function I haven't seen on other phones.
Is
> > the reading accurate?
> >
>
> The battery meter is available on the T39 also,


I had it on my T39m, T29 and on my T28. I was horrified when it wasn't on
the T610...
SE also changed the menu-navigation, the key-lock and moved the
"Space"-button...
But I think the T610 is one of the best phones on the market nowadays...

--
Mvh

Helge Rygg