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  1. #1
    carmoda
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    I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop. There
    is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    install in all seriousness.

    I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless they
    pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.

    perhaps they could say hello to Digital, Compaq and gateway while they are
    doen there..

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  2. #2
    Tim S Kemp
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    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony


    "carmoda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.

    There
    > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > install in all seriousness.
    >
    > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless

    they
    > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.


    T39 had nothing to do with Sony. All current SE models are much better to
    use and more reliable.





  3. #3
    Carl.
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    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    "Tim S Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "carmoda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.

    > There
    > > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > > install in all seriousness.
    > >
    > > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless

    > they
    > > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.

    >
    > T39 had nothing to do with Sony. All current SE models are much better to
    > use and more reliable.


    I'd have to say that my T28 (old ericsson) is MUCH more stable and reliable
    than the newer lineup, despite not having many features (comparatively--it
    actually has a lot of cool stuff).


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  4. #4
    Yazzan Gable
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    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    I used an R520 connected via IR to my laptop years ago when it first
    came out, what two or three years back? No problemo. Even using
    Micro$not Windoze 2K.

    The T39m, from what I've been reading ere on this group was a buggy
    phone to start with. I'd make sure the firmware is up to date on it and
    whatever computer you're using with whatever OS you're using is up to
    date as well.




    In article <[email protected]>,
    joe <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Took me less than 15 min to get my t616 working on my laptop. Install
    > the software, turn on the IR port and worked no problem.
    >
    > You don't mention what types of problems you had.
    >
    > Joe
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:45:46 +1000, "carmoda" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop. There
    > >is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > >simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > >install in all seriousness.
    > >

    >




  5. #5
    Sims
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.
    There

    I still cannot get my P800 to work, the software does not work with WinXP, i
    tried to download the lattest version but there are no install that comes
    with the drivers. WinXP does not recognise it at a valid driver so i cannot
    update it.
    The software they offer is pretty useless, (appart from backing up i am not
    sure what else i can do).

    There are also some bugs in the applications themselves, (the ones on the
    phone), but i have no idear how to upgrade them.

    > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > install in all seriousness.


    True..

    And the fact that they are using MFC, (VC6++), and not removing the default
    Microsoft flags tells me that they diod not spend much time on the
    applications.

    >
    > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless

    they
    > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.
    >
    > perhaps they could say hello to Digital, Compaq and gateway while they are
    > doen there..
    >
    > I Am Carmoda!
    >


    Sims





  6. #6
    Sims
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.
    There

    I still cannot get my P800 to work, the software does not work with WinXP, I
    tried to download the latest version but there are no install that comes
    with the drivers. WinXP does not recognise it at a valid driver so I cannot
    update it.
    The software they offer is pretty useless, (apart from backing up I am not
    sure what else I can do).

    There are also some bugs in the applications themselves, (the ones on the
    phone), but I have no idea how to upgrade them.

    > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > install in all seriousness.


    True..

    And the fact that they are using MFC, (VC6++), and not removing the default
    Microsoft flags tells me that they did not spend much time on the
    applications.

    >
    > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless

    they
    > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.
    >
    > perhaps they could say hello to Digital, Compaq and gateway while they are
    > doen there..
    >
    > I Am Carmoda!
    >


    Sims







  7. #7
    Jon
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    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony


    "Sims" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.

    > There
    >
    > I still cannot get my P800 to work, the software does not work with WinXP,

    i
    > tried to download the lattest version but there are no install that comes
    > with the drivers. WinXP does not recognise it at a valid driver so i

    cannot
    > update it.
    > The software they offer is pretty useless, (appart from backing up i am

    not
    > sure what else i can do).
    >

    I have had no problem installing and using the software on either
    Win XP at home or Win 2000 at work. It backs up the phone
    and synchronises Calendar, Address Books, Tasks, and Notes with
    Outlook.

    > There are also some bugs in the applications themselves, (the ones on the
    > phone), but i have no idear how to upgrade them.
    >

    What bugs? Also, you can upgrade the phone firmware via any Sony
    Ericsson service centre.


    > > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > > install in all seriousness.

    >
    > True..
    >
    > And the fact that they are using MFC, (VC6++), and not removing the

    default
    > Microsoft flags tells me that they diod not spend much time on the
    > applications.
    >
    > >
    > > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless

    > they
    > > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.
    > >
    > > perhaps they could say hello to Digital, Compaq and gateway while they

    are
    > > doen there..
    > >
    > > I Am Carmoda!
    > >

    >
    > Sims
    >
    >






  8. #8
    Sims
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    > > > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.
    > > There
    > >
    > > I still cannot get my P800 to work, the software does not work with

    WinXP,
    > I
    > > tried to download the lattest version but there are no install that

    comes
    > > with the drivers. WinXP does not recognise it at a valid driver so i

    > cannot
    > > update it.
    > > The software they offer is pretty useless, (appart from backing up i am

    > not
    > > sure what else i can do).
    > >

    > I have had no problem installing and using the software on either
    > Win XP at home or Win 2000 at work. It backs up the phone
    > and synchronises Calendar, Address Books, Tasks, and Notes with
    > Outlook.


    I have WinXP pro and it simply does not work.
    I installed it as instructed and it simply does not work.
    If I try to launch the application then I get told that some Dll was not
    found or something else is missing. Most of the time a crash occurs, (well
    as crash goes in win XP anyways).

    On my machine I have Win98 as well, I have installed the software and it
    seems to work but I do not have any way of working with outlook.
    All I can do is backup the phone. And I do have some random crashes if I run
    anything else at the same time.

    If you know how to use it with Outlook please point me in the right
    direction and tell me what app I should be looking for, (I have Outlook
    2000).

    >
    > > There are also some bugs in the applications themselves, (the ones on

    the
    > > phone), but I have no idear how to upgrade them.
    > >

    > What bugs? Also,
    >


    You want bugs?
    The Clear button does not work when the flap is closed. Automatic email
    checking does not work for multiple email account, (only one address is
    checked). The phone goes in System Failure every so often, ( and I have no
    idea why, even the FAQ ask question avoids the issue).

    ****** From the http://www.sonyericsson.com/uk/ site.**************

    I get a "System Failure" message. Why?
    In the event of a system failure, your P800 will flash an animated
    warning.
    To recover, please restart the P800 as follows:
    Press and hold the On/Off button for at least 10 seconds to turn the P800
    off.
    Restart as normal: Press the On/Off button to turn on your P800.

    ****** From the http://www.sonyericsson.com/uk/ site.**************

    I still have no clue how that happens, (it usually starts when I am not
    doing anything with the phone).

    > you can upgrade the phone firmware via any Sony
    > Ericsson service centre.


    Where do I get such upgrades? Furthermore their site does not always work
    and I often get redirected to the wrong page.
    You must work for Sony Ericson because I do not seem to find the link so
    readily.

    I bought my phone in June and have not updated any of their software.

    Regards.

    Sims







  9. #9
    Sims
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    > >
    > I have had no problem installing and using the software on either
    > Win XP at home or Win 2000 at work. It backs up the phone
    > and synchronises Calendar, Address Books, Tasks, and Notes with
    > Outlook.
    >


    Just to make sure, I re-installed the application, rebooted and plugged my
    phone in.
    The icon on the system tray does a little search and then I get an error,
    (an MFC app ...).

    I then re-plug my phone in and it seems to work. I get asked to choose a new
    phone and I accept all the defaults and the I get a 'Fatal exeption',
    'ACCESS VIOLATION"

    All the sync types are disabled. When I right click on the System tray to
    Sync nothing happens.

    Now, I am not sure that this is the best running app I have seen so far.

    I am running v.1.0.10.0

    Regards.
    Sims









  10. #10
    gopi
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    "Tim S Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "carmoda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.

    > There
    > > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > > install in all seriousness.

    >
    > T39 had nothing to do with Sony. All current SE models are much better to
    > use and more reliable.


    I have a T39m, and find it to be a very nice phone with little in the
    way of problems. I'm very happy with it. Actually, let me just remove
    the e-mail client from my list of happy features; it's slow to scroll
    through messages. Odd, given that the web browser, etc. is fast. But
    other than that I'm happy. I sync it with my TiBook, I work with GPRS
    a lot, etc.



  11. #11
    John Navas
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    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 18 Aug 2003
    18:45:46 +1000, "carmoda" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop. There
    >is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    >simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    >install in all seriousness.


    FWIW, I've installed on three different computers, and none of them took more
    than a few minutes.

    > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless they
    >pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.


    Whereas I see Sony as the problem -- it's never seemed to understand cellular.
    Ericsson on the other hand has very good cellular design and engineering. Its
    weakness is in marketing, which Sony was supposed to address, but hasn't
    seemed to do much good thus far.

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  12. #12
    BA Baracus
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony



    carmoda wrote:
    > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop. There
    > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > install in all seriousness.


    Firstly, an explanation of your operating system would be nice!
    I assume you are either using a bluetooth dongle or an embedded
    bluetooth module. I have been working with a usb bluetooth dongle, and
    it is a pleasure to install and use!
    I got my T39 working under sucky win98 in under 10mins! I used it to
    perform dial up networking for me while away on a trip.
    The linux bluez stack is also awesome, stable, reliable and a pleasure
    to use! I setup a lan via bluez in no time!

    Ericsson make awesome products compared to the competitors! Robustness,
    reliability and quality are what you should expect from Ericsson!
    My previous phone was a noki.. rubbish phone, it broke 6 times within 2
    years... my T39 and now my T68 are flawless!No repairs needed... which
    really rocks my boat!

    >
    > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless they
    > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.
    >
    > perhaps they could say hello to Digital, Compaq and gateway while they are
    > doen there..





  13. #13
    R. Felix DeSouza
    Guest

    Re: Ericsson a liability for Sony

    I commend you for being able to get the software loaded under WIN98/ME. I
    was able to install but it never ran ... simply crashed each time. I traced
    it to a third-party application (can't recall the name) that Ericsson
    bundled with the phone. They supposedly had a fix available from the
    third-party site. I was able to get the phone to work (quite well at that)
    with the Palm Tungsten/T. Therefore, I don't feel the need to mate the phone
    and my PC. The organizer is actually better.

    "BA Baracus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > carmoda wrote:
    > > I have just spent three hours getting my T39 to connect to my Laptop.

    There
    > > is no excuse for installs to be this difficult in this day and age. It's
    > > simply unacceptable. I have found most open source packages easier to
    > > install in all seriousness.

    >
    > Firstly, an explanation of your operating system would be nice!
    > I assume you are either using a bluetooth dongle or an embedded
    > bluetooth module. I have been working with a usb bluetooth dongle, and
    > it is a pleasure to install and use!
    > I got my T39 working under sucky win98 in under 10mins! I used it to
    > perform dial up networking for me while away on a trip.
    > The linux bluez stack is also awesome, stable, reliable and a pleasure
    > to use! I setup a lan via bluez in no time!
    >
    > Ericsson make awesome products compared to the competitors! Robustness,
    > reliability and quality are what you should expect from Ericsson!
    > My previous phone was a noki.. rubbish phone, it broke 6 times within 2
    > years... my T39 and now my T68 are flawless!No repairs needed... which
    > really rocks my boat!
    >
    > >
    > > I foresee Ericsson dragging Sony down with them into the abyss unless

    they
    > > pull their idiots fingers out of their arses.
    > >
    > > perhaps they could say hello to Digital, Compaq and gateway while they

    are
    > > doen there..

    >






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