Sony Ericsson T630 When?

Lenny wrote:
>> who in their right mind buys a phone to use the camera?
>
> Ummmm... *raises hand*
>
> The camera was one of the reasons I got my T610. I knew it wouldn't be
> perfect, but what the hey, it's better than NOTHING!
>
> I've had lots of uses for that camera, I guess the T610 will easily
> last me until 3G phones are common and have gone down considerably in
> price/size and up in performance/battery life. Perhaps then we'll
> have good cameras built into our phones...

Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of too many
applications for taking pics from a phone.

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ZB wrote:
> Moody Marco wrote:
>> Lenny wrote:
>>>> I am thinking of punting for a T610 but, depending on the T630
>>>> release date could be prepared to wait for a better screen.
>>>
>>> What differs regarding the screens between the two?
>>>
>>> The T610 is surprisingly bad in bright light conditions. Probably
>>> the phone's only real fault, along with the fairly poor battery
>>> capacity.
>>
>> What about the inability to use your own sounds as message/reminder
>> alerts, the very poor camera
>
> who in their right mind buys a phone to use the camera? I have yet to
> see a phone camera that is any good.
>

Sharp GX20?

>> and the poor reception?
>
> can't be as bad as the t68i for reception. Absolutely atrocious. I
> hear the t610 is better than the t68i & the z600 is better than the
> t610.
>

Yes, and none of them are a patch on the old Nokia 3210/3310 for signal.

> Anyway, have you got any polyphonic tones for me? I've managed to get
> hold of about 20MB worth which I can mail if you want (or even bung
> on a CD). One thing is that they are all 20kb and above, any idea if
> it is possible to shorten them?

E-mail me about this if you want detail.

ZB wrote:
> Lenny wrote:
>>> who in their right mind buys a phone to use the camera?
>>
>> Ummmm... *raises hand*
>>
>> The camera was one of the reasons I got my T610. I knew it wouldn't
>> be perfect, but what the hey, it's better than NOTHING!
>>
>> I've had lots of uses for that camera, I guess the T610 will easily
>> last me until 3G phones are common and have gone down considerably in
>> price/size and up in performance/battery life. Perhaps then we'll
>> have good cameras built into our phones...
>
> Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of too
> many applications for taking pics from a phone.

It is handy if you're out with the kids, not nescessarily a "day out" where
you'd take a camera, and they do soemthing funny/cute/gross.

Moody Marco wrote:
> ZB wrote:
>> Moody Marco wrote:
>>> Lenny wrote:
>>>>> I am thinking of punting for a T610 but, depending on the T630
>>>>> release date could be prepared to wait for a better screen.
>>>>
>>>> What differs regarding the screens between the two?
>>>>
>>>> The T610 is surprisingly bad in bright light conditions.
>>>> Probably the phone's only real fault, along with the fairly poor
>>>> battery capacity.
>>>
>>> What about the inability to use your own sounds as message/reminder
>>> alerts, the very poor camera
>>
>> who in their right mind buys a phone to use the camera? I have yet to
>> see a phone camera that is any good.
>>
>
> Sharp GX20?
>
>>> and the poor reception?
>>
>> can't be as bad as the t68i for reception. Absolutely atrocious. I
>> hear the t610 is better than the t68i & the z600 is better than the
>> t610.
>>
>
> Yes, and none of them are a patch on the old Nokia 3210/3310 for
> signal.
>
>> Anyway, have you got any polyphonic tones for me? I've managed to get
>> hold of about 20MB worth which I can mail if you want (or even bung
>> on a CD). One thing is that they are all 20kb and above, any idea if
>> it is possible to shorten them?
>
> E-mail me about this if you want detail.

I emailed you yesterday, are you still using your o2 account? Anyway, I
managed to find a neat free programme called Anvil studio which seems to do
the job. Thanks anyway.

ZB wrote:
> Moody Marco wrote:
>> ZB wrote:
>>> Moody Marco wrote:
>>>> Lenny wrote:
>>>>>> I am thinking of punting for a T610 but, depending on the T630
>>>>>> release date could be prepared to wait for a better screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> What differs regarding the screens between the two?
>>>>>
>>>>> The T610 is surprisingly bad in bright light conditions.
>>>>> Probably the phone's only real fault, along with the fairly poor
>>>>> battery capacity.
>>>>
>>>> What about the inability to use your own sounds as message/reminder
>>>> alerts, the very poor camera
>>>
>>> who in their right mind buys a phone to use the camera? I have yet
>>> to see a phone camera that is any good.
>>>
>>
>> Sharp GX20?
>>
>>>> and the poor reception?
>>>
>>> can't be as bad as the t68i for reception. Absolutely atrocious. I
>>> hear the t610 is better than the t68i & the z600 is better than the
>>> t610.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, and none of them are a patch on the old Nokia 3210/3310 for
>> signal.
>>
>>> Anyway, have you got any polyphonic tones for me? I've managed to
>>> get hold of about 20MB worth which I can mail if you want (or even
>>> bung on a CD). One thing is that they are all 20kb and above, any
>>> idea if it is possible to shorten them?
>>
>> E-mail me about this if you want detail.
>
> I emailed you yesterday, are you still using your o2 account? Anyway,
> I managed to find a neat free programme called Anvil studio which
> seems to do the job. Thanks anyway.

Yes, Anvil Studio does the job but the user interface is ****.

Still e-mail me, use my BT account, I ditched the o2 one cos it wouldn't let
me reply to anyone (I think I was replying to you when i discovered this).

> Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of too many
> applications for taking pics from a phone.

Duh. Any situation where you'd want to use a camera. Obviously the quality
of the resulting picture is lacking - sometimes lotsly, so that I simply
delete the resulting pic when I get back home - but I have many pics I'm
satisfied with that came out great, all things considered.

Lenny wrote:
>> Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of
>> too many applications for taking pics from a phone.
>
> Duh. Any situation where you'd want to use a camera. Obviously the
> quality of the resulting picture is lacking - sometimes lotsly, so
> that I simply delete the resulting pic when I get back home - but I
> have many pics I'm satisfied with that came out great, all things
> considered.

Obviously I have higher standards than you Lenny ;-)

ZB wrote:
> Lenny wrote:
>>> Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of
>>> too many applications for taking pics from a phone.
>>
>> Duh. Any situation where you'd want to use a camera. Obviously the
>> quality of the resulting picture is lacking - sometimes lotsly, so
>> that I simply delete the resulting pic when I get back home - but I
>> have many pics I'm satisfied with that came out great, all things
>> considered.
>
> Obviously I have higher standards than you Lenny ;-)

Coming from a Celtic fan, I don't believe that.

Lenny - typed:
>> As an ex-T28 user, the T610 has a smaller higher capacity battery &
>> considerably longer battery life!
>
> Dunno bout the T28, I can only compare to my previous phone, which
> was a Nokia. Not that I can't stand charging this one a bit more
> often, but it's a bit silly a phone that is over a year older than
> this one beats it so handily when battery life is concerned. SE could
> have fitted a bigger, better battery I'm sure, considering all the
> gadgetry they squeezed in that drains power... .
>
>> main weakness is no expandable memory which is a poor oversight for a
>> phone with a camera.
>
> Well, the low res still allows me to fit 20+ pics in it, more if I
> could delete all that junk in the flashram I don't want, nor need.
> How do I get rid of the predefined backgrounds, ringtunes, themes
> etc??? Is it at all possible?
>
>> The display is the best I've seen - when used inside!
>
> Which sort of is when you don't NEED a cellphone! LOL, unless when
> you're in a train or a mall or such, I guess.
>
>> For those who don't mind the thickness of clamshells & don't
>> like tiny keypads, the Z600 has to be a better choice
>
> I don't mind, but the T610 was the best phone for me when I bought
> it. I could have gone for a Nokia camera phone, but the only one they
> had with bluetooth didn't support headsets, so that didn't work. My
> T610 with the HBH-35 headset is a wonder to use with voice dialling,
> it's bloody marvellous! I luuuvv this combo! Also, the design of both
> is very stylish (imo).

My T28 needed charging every 36hrs - it ended up being easier just to
charge it every day. The T39 was vastly better & is a classic though
short lived one. The T68 was a toy with a laughable display, so missed
that one.

Never been keen on Nokias, the 8310 was OK but would have been nice if
you could dim the keypad light! The 3650 is too large & needs the new
display upgrade.

A couple of the T610's included pictures can be erased. I would prefer
if they kept it to a couple of ring tones, one picture etc as memory is
so limited. I just u/l stuff over BT regularly to free up space. The
battery life ain't great but good enough for me & it will be interesting
to see how much better the display on the T630/Z600 is outside. I have
an HBH-15, which is crap (or faulty) - may go for the HBH-60 though.

Moody Marco wrote:
> ZB wrote:
>> Lenny wrote:
>>>> Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of
>>>> too many applications for taking pics from a phone.
>>>
>>> Duh. Any situation where you'd want to use a camera. Obviously the
>>> quality of the resulting picture is lacking - sometimes lotsly, so
>>> that I simply delete the resulting pic when I get back home - but I
>>> have many pics I'm satisfied with that came out great, all things
>>> considered.
>>
>> Obviously I have higher standards than you Lenny ;-)
>
> Coming from a Celtic fan, I don't believe that.

Are you a Celtic fan? I like you more already!

> Obviously I have higher standards than you Lenny ;-)

So what? Does that make you a better person or something, you figure?

What's it to you anyway?

> Never been keen on Nokias, the 8310 was OK but would have been nice if
> you could dim the keypad light!

It was darn bright, yeah, hehe. I liked it though, I like shiny toys.

> A couple of the T610's included pictures can be erased.

Yea, but I killed those already. I wanna toast the rest of them as well,
there's no point in having them, I don't want them and I certainly don't use
them... Same with the extra ringtones and the themes.

> I have an HBH-15, which is crap (or faulty) - may go for the HBH-60
though.

The battery life on the 60 is MUCH shorter, though the thing is way smaller
too than the HBH-35. Maybe that is more important to you? It is also lots
more expensive btw, which was the real deal-breaker for me. Shorter battery
life and over 25% more expensive = no way. My 35 is still on the first
charge, though it is blinking red now instead of green. I love this headset,
it looks hi-tech and the voice dialling works great and is super easy to
use... BT headsets rule!

Lenny wrote:
>> Obviously I have higher standards than you Lenny ;-)
>
> So what? Does that make you a better person or something, you figure?

Yep. Of course it does. (do I need to ***** out where I'm being sarcastic)

> What's it to you anyway?

You havent got the hang of this usenet thing yet have you Len?

ZB wrote:
> Moody Marco wrote:
>> ZB wrote:
>>> Lenny wrote:
>>>>> Serious question, what do you use the camera for? I cant think of
>>>>> too many applications for taking pics from a phone.
>>>>
>>>> Duh. Any situation where you'd want to use a camera. Obviously the
>>>> quality of the resulting picture is lacking - sometimes lotsly, so
>>>> that I simply delete the resulting pic when I get back home - but I
>>>> have many pics I'm satisfied with that came out great, all things
>>>> considered.
>>>
>>> Obviously I have higher standards than you Lenny ;-)
>>
>> Coming from a Celtic fan, I don't believe that.
>
> Are you a Celtic fan? I like you more already!

That hurts, it really does.