' BELL AND TELUS' SUCK

Just my opinion, you are welcome to add your comments:

BELL AND TELUS:
==============

- Don't use Sim Cards (Can only use their phones in USA / Canada and maybe 1
or 2 countries

- 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over

- $20 per month to break contract, no cap (so to cancel 2 years, $20 x 24
= $480)

- No Customer Service ... well they have agents, but try to get help LOL

- They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or Fido

- No network expansion in the last 5 years

- No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them

- Evenings start at 8PM (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)

- Per Minute Billing only


ROGERS AND FIDO:
================
- Free phones at 50% of Contract (1 or 2 years) I usually get 1 free
phone every year

- If you cancel, it's $20 / month MAX $200

- 24/7 Customer Service (You may have to use their emergency night lines but
they will help you)

- They use SIM Cards (Like the rest of the world) so your phone will work
everywhere on the Planet

- Always first with new features, like Guess that tune, #TAXI, SMS to
Landline, Desktop SMS, Fax Server in the Phone

- FIDO lets you port you Hone Phone Number *or Smartring* so if your phone
number is 416-522-2110
and your Smart Ring is 416-522-2111 FIDO will let you have 522-2111 on
your Mobile

- Network always expanding

- Huge Savings if you have several services with them

- Evenings start at 6PM (That's when I'm stuck in Traffic and need to use my
phone

- Per second billing, First Minute Free (incoming) available

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where can i get info about this "smart ring " service. None is available
from fido web site.


"Happy Customer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
newsTlvf.255553$ki.51373@pd7tw2no...
> Just my opinion, you are welcome to add your comments:
>
> BELL AND TELUS:
> ==============
>
> - Don't use Sim Cards (Can only use their phones in USA / Canada and maybe
1
> or 2 countries
>
> - 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over
>
> - $20 per month to break contract, no cap (so to cancel 2 years, $20 x
24
> = $480)
>
> - No Customer Service ... well they have agents, but try to get help
LOL
>
> - They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or
Fido
>
> - No network expansion in the last 5 years
>
> - No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them
>
> - Evenings start at 8PM (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)
>
> - Per Minute Billing only
>
>
> ROGERS AND FIDO:
> ================
> - Free phones at 50% of Contract (1 or 2 years) I usually get 1 free
> phone every year
>
> - If you cancel, it's $20 / month MAX $200
>
> - 24/7 Customer Service (You may have to use their emergency night lines
but
> they will help you)
>
> - They use SIM Cards (Like the rest of the world) so your phone will work
> everywhere on the Planet
>
> - Always first with new features, like Guess that tune, #TAXI, SMS to
> Landline, Desktop SMS, Fax Server in the Phone
>
> - FIDO lets you port you Hone Phone Number *or Smartring* so if your
phone
> number is 416-522-2110
> and your Smart Ring is 416-522-2111 FIDO will let you have 522-2111 on
> your Mobile
>
> - Network always expanding
>
> - Huge Savings if you have several services with them
>
> - Evenings start at 6PM (That's when I'm stuck in Traffic and need to use
my
> phone
>
> - Per second billing, First Minute Free (incoming) available
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

i want to know what is smart ring too.

and the desktop SMS service if any ?

Tks
Daniel

i want to know what is smart ring too.

and the desktop SMS service if any ?

Tks
Daniel

You don't really have a clue do you??


"Happy Customer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
newsTlvf.255553$ki.51373@pd7tw2no...
> Just my opinion, you are welcome to add your comments:
>
> BELL AND TELUS:
> ==============
>
> - Don't use Sim Cards (Can only use their phones in USA / Canada and maybe
1
> or 2 countries
>
> - 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over
>
> - $20 per month to break contract, no cap (so to cancel 2 years, $20 x
24
> = $480)
>
> - No Customer Service ... well they have agents, but try to get help
LOL
>
> - They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or
Fido
>
> - No network expansion in the last 5 years
>
> - No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them
>
> - Evenings start at 8PM (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)
>
> - Per Minute Billing only
>
>
> ROGERS AND FIDO:
> ================
> - Free phones at 50% of Contract (1 or 2 years) I usually get 1 free
> phone every year
>
> - If you cancel, it's $20 / month MAX $200
>
> - 24/7 Customer Service (You may have to use their emergency night lines
but
> they will help you)
>
> - They use SIM Cards (Like the rest of the world) so your phone will work
> everywhere on the Planet
>
> - Always first with new features, like Guess that tune, #TAXI, SMS to
> Landline, Desktop SMS, Fax Server in the Phone
>
> - FIDO lets you port you Hone Phone Number *or Smartring* so if your
phone
> number is 416-522-2110
> and your Smart Ring is 416-522-2111 FIDO will let you have 522-2111 on
> your Mobile
>
> - Network always expanding
>
> - Huge Savings if you have several services with them
>
> - Evenings start at 6PM (That's when I'm stuck in Traffic and need to use
my
> phone
>
> - Per second billing, First Minute Free (incoming) available
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Unfortunately for Fido/Rogers customers Telus has more coverage available
in most rural areas such as Lillooet. My sister has a house up there and
I cant use my Rogers cell at all. :-(

Smart Ring (telus) or Distinctive Ring (bell) is a Different phone number
that rings on your telehpone (Rings differently)

Usually it's used if u run a small business and need to answer differently
or for tenagers so you know who the call is for before you answer.

Fido doesn't specify they can Port Smart Rings but they can port any Local
Number.

More info can be found here:
http://www.fido.ca/portal/cityfido/c...do?lang=en#ovt

Don't confuse this portability with the Cell Carrier to Cell Carrier
Portability coming in about 2 years.

You can also port a 2nd number that can be used as a Fax Line on your Fido.
Fido doesn't advertise it
but it's called Business Messaging with FAX ( you may need to push a
little to get it)

Here are some Fun services (MAY COST YOU MONEY) that you can use with your
FIDO or Rogers Cell.

Desktop TXT

Wacky Wake-up

TXT 2 Landline

TXT A Song

#DJ (Pound DJ)

#TAXI (Pound TAXI)

Saved by the call!
Remind Me!


"BOYTOYS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>i want to know what is smart ring too.
>
> and the desktop SMS service if any ?
>
> Tks
> Daniel
>

In message <DTlvf.255553$ki.51373@pd7tw2no> "Happy Customer"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>- 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over

You can request a 1, 2 or 3 year contract.

>- They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or Fido

Depends on the plan -- Rogers is offering me significantly less then my
previous TELUS Mike plan, when you factor in the cost of calling
features and everything else (In other words, the final $ on the bill,
vs my actual usage)

>- No network expansion in the last 5 years

Not true at all. 5 years ago Bell had no network at all in the West,
and TELUS was still tweaking the network after the Clearnet
merger/buyout.

>- No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them

Not between wireline and cellular, no. However, multiple cellular
services could get you some perks.

>- Evenings start at 8PM (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)

This depends on your plan -- Rogers too.

>- Per Minute Billing only

Just like Rogers?

--
Can I get a w00t w00t?

To bad Rogers coverage sucks.




"Happy Customer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
newsTlvf.255553$ki.51373@pd7tw2no...
> Just my opinion, you are welcome to add your comments:
>
> BELL AND TELUS:
> ==============
>
> - Don't use Sim Cards (Can only use their phones in USA / Canada and maybe
> 1 or 2 countries
>
> - 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over
>
> - $20 per month to break contract, no cap (so to cancel 2 years, $20 x
> 24 = $480)
>
> - No Customer Service ... well they have agents, but try to get help
> LOL
>
> - They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or
> Fido
>
> - No network expansion in the last 5 years
>
> - No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them
>
> - Evenings start at 8PM (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)
>
> - Per Minute Billing only
>
>
> ROGERS AND FIDO:
> ================
> - Free phones at 50% of Contract (1 or 2 years) I usually get 1 free
> phone every year
>
> - If you cancel, it's $20 / month MAX $200
>
> - 24/7 Customer Service (You may have to use their emergency night lines
> but they will help you)
>
> - They use SIM Cards (Like the rest of the world) so your phone will work
> everywhere on the Planet
>
> - Always first with new features, like Guess that tune, #TAXI, SMS to
> Landline, Desktop SMS, Fax Server in the Phone
>
> - FIDO lets you port you Hone Phone Number *or Smartring* so if your
> phone number is 416-522-2110
> and your Smart Ring is 416-522-2111 FIDO will let you have 522-2111 on
> your Mobile
>
> - Network always expanding
>
> - Huge Savings if you have several services with them
>
> - Evenings start at 6PM (That's when I'm stuck in Traffic and need to use
> my phone
>
> - Per second billing, First Minute Free (incoming) available
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Benny Blanco" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alot of people here are misinformed.

Actually you are misinformed. Only Bell and Telus offer EVDO, Rogers
currently offers EDGE for data transmission.

In message <[email protected]> "Benny Blanco"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It's my recommendation that for regular cell phone use, meaning voice
>transmission, Telus and Fido seemed to be the best bang for your buck,
>either provider offers a plan 25 per month get's you 100 anytime/1000
>evenings(starting at 7pm) and weekends/ unlimited incoming calls.

Wow, swing and a miss... Rogers' version of that plan is only $20/month,
and includes 100 LD minutes (plus the 100 anytime, and other goodies)

>All four providers are now
>stocking the EVDO smartphones, so you will be able to do those updates
>necessary to synchronise your phones with sharepoint services and install
>the latest microsoft communications packages.

Really? Can you point out a single Rogers/Fido EVDO-capable phone? I
can find a number of EDGE phones, but not a single EVDO capable one.

--
Can I get a w00t w00t?

Originally Posted by Happy Customer

Just my opinion, you are welcome to add your comments:

BELL AND TELUS:
==============

- Don't use Sim Cards (Can only use their phones in USA / Canada and maybe 1
or 2 countries

- 3 Year contracts, No Free Phones till contract is over

- $20 per month to break contract, no cap (so to cancel 2 years, $20 x 24
= $480)

- No Customer Service ... well they have agents, but try to get help LOL

- They charge 10-20% more for the same amount of minutes than Rogers or Fido

- No network expansion in the last 5 years

- No discount if you have a Land Line or Multiple services with them

- Evenings start at 8PM (I'm in bed by then ..... well not really)

- Per Minute Billing only


ROGERS AND FIDO:
================
- Free phones at 50% of Contract (1 or 2 years) I usually get 1 free
phone every year

- If you cancel, it's $20 / month MAX $200

- 24/7 Customer Service (You may have to use their emergency night lines but
they will help you)

- They use SIM Cards (Like the rest of the world) so your phone will work
everywhere on the Planet

- Always first with new features, like Guess that tune, #TAXI, SMS to
Landline, Desktop SMS, Fax Server in the Phone

- FIDO lets you port you Hone Phone Number *or Smartring* so if your phone
number is 416-522-2110
and your Smart Ring is 416-522-2111 FIDO will let you have 522-2111 on
your Mobile

- Network always expanding

- Huge Savings if you have several services with them

- Evenings start at 6PM (That's when I'm stuck in Traffic and need to use my
phone

- Per second billing, First Minute Free (incoming) available

I agree with the SIM cards. I like the protability of the phone number and phone book with the ease of swapping a little plastic card.

You can re-new with Bell after 24 months and get a phone rebate. Don't have to wait until contract is over.

Bell is a maximum termination fee of $400. Can't go over that.

I call Bell's Customer Care everyday. Takes me about 1 minute to get in line for a person, then usually anywhere from 0 to 5 minutes until someone answers. Telus I've waited a long time before, 45 minutes one time, Bell was once 15 minutes, that's the longest I've ever waited.

Bell Mobility has the EV-DO network ? Fido doesn't have that. Bell Mobility also has Caller Ring Tunes, an exclusive feature to Bell Mobility.

Bell Mobility bought NMI Mobility up here in north, just about 3 years ago. Now, Bell Corporate Enterprise's nearly wholly owned landline company (Northwestel), is building cell phone service in 17 comminities around the Yukon. So yes, you are mistaken to an extent, Bell Mobility (as a parent company to these other companies) is expanding.

Bell Mobility has a bundle discount if you have satellite TV (ExpressVu) and cell / landline service.

9pm now for evenings, $5 a month will get you 6pm.

Some corporate plans have per the second, but yes, mostly per the minute.



I understand that you seem to like GSM better. However, before commenting on how much Bell and Telus "suck", I'd recommend you get your info straight before posting it. Most of your info is wrong

Fido offer EDGE too, but only on special arrangement.

"Super Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:lhsRf.142160$B94.124116@pd7tw3no...
> Benny Blanco" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Alot of people here are misinformed.
>
> Actually you are misinformed. Only Bell and Telus offer EVDO, Rogers
> currently offers EDGE for data transmission.
>
>

Hum Sup Low wrote:
>
> Fido offer EDGE too, but only on special arrangement.

Is this a feature that is separate from GRPS ?

I had thought that an EDGE equippe phone would automatically use EDGE
when available ? Isn't EDGE just a glorified GPRS ?

Or are there separate subscription flags with a customer having to be
authorized specifically for edge ?

It depends what sort of data card you are using.

At first I was using the G100 by Novatel, then Fido upgraded me to G301 for
the new network on Rogers, then when take didn't work, Fido give me an
unlock CG83 Sony-Erickson card with EDGE in it.

Now I have no problems since I am on the Rogers EDGE network, compare to the
Fido GPRS and my data rates are 4 times faster at the old $50/month
unlimited.

I am still using my Fido SIM card on Rogers' EDGE card for free.

Fido didn't want back the G100 and the two G301 anymore.

The G301 were brand new.

"JF Mezei" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hum Sup Low wrote:
>>
>> Fido offer EDGE too, but only on special arrangement.
>
> Is this a feature that is separate from GRPS ?
>
> I had thought that an EDGE equippe phone would automatically use EDGE
> when available ? Isn't EDGE just a glorified GPRS ?
>
> Or are there separate subscription flags with a customer having to be
> authorized specifically for edge ?