V60s compared to V60p

Motorola seems to no longer be selling V60* phones from their web site,
and Verizon will not sell the V60p for use with a non-push-to-talk plan.

The new V60s (at least according to the manual that would come with it)
is vastly inferior to the V60p in non-push-to-talk features such as the
ability to ascribe particular ring tones to particular CallerID incoming
values.

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Not sure what you're talking about. The v60s is basically a v60p without
the PTT feature. Specific ringtones can be set to particular incoming
numbers.

"Larry Kilgallen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Motorola seems to no longer be selling V60* phones from their web site,
> and Verizon will not sell the V60p for use with a non-push-to-talk plan.
>
> The new V60s (at least according to the manual that would come with it)
> is vastly inferior to the V60p in non-push-to-talk features such as the
> ability to ascribe particular ring tones to particular CallerID incoming
> values.

Not sure what you're talking about. The v60s is basically a v60p without
the PTT feature. Specific ringtones can be set to particular incoming
numbers.

"Larry Kilgallen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Motorola seems to no longer be selling V60* phones from their web site,
> and Verizon will not sell the V60p for use with a non-push-to-talk plan.
>
> The new V60s (at least according to the manual that would come with it)
> is vastly inferior to the V60p in non-push-to-talk features such as the
> ability to ascribe particular ring tones to particular CallerID incoming
> values.

In article <[email protected]>, "This_Is_Nascar" <[email protected]> writes:
> Not sure what you're talking about. The v60s is basically a v60p without
> the PTT feature. Specific ringtones can be set to particular incoming
> numbers.

I did not see that in the v60s manual I read today.

I did see it in the (much thicker) v60p manual I read last month.

The v60s manual also lacked the information on how to set up the
phone initially (meaning you have to let Verizon do it). I asked
about that aspect, and the Verizon representative said there is no
way to do that on that model since "we do it over the air".

> "Larry Kilgallen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Motorola seems to no longer be selling V60* phones from their web site,
>> and Verizon will not sell the V60p for use with a non-push-to-talk plan.
>>
>> The new V60s (at least according to the manual that would come with it)
>> is vastly inferior to the V60p in non-push-to-talk features such as the
>> ability to ascribe particular ring tones to particular CallerID incoming
>> values.

I also don't understand why the list retail price is the same for
both phones ($239 or $339 or so, I forget which).

In article <[email protected]>, "This_Is_Nascar" <[email protected]> writes:
> Not sure what you're talking about. The v60s is basically a v60p without
> the PTT feature. Specific ringtones can be set to particular incoming
> numbers.

I did not see that in the v60s manual I read today.

I did see it in the (much thicker) v60p manual I read last month.

The v60s manual also lacked the information on how to set up the
phone initially (meaning you have to let Verizon do it). I asked
about that aspect, and the Verizon representative said there is no
way to do that on that model since "we do it over the air".

> "Larry Kilgallen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Motorola seems to no longer be selling V60* phones from their web site,
>> and Verizon will not sell the V60p for use with a non-push-to-talk plan.
>>
>> The new V60s (at least according to the manual that would come with it)
>> is vastly inferior to the V60p in non-push-to-talk features such as the
>> ability to ascribe particular ring tones to particular CallerID incoming
>> values.

I also don't understand why the list retail price is the same for
both phones ($239 or $339 or so, I forget which).

On 2 Jan 2004 17:26:13 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
posted to alt.cellular.motorola:

>The v60s manual also lacked the information on how to set up the
>phone initially (meaning you have to let Verizon do it). I asked
>about that aspect, and the Verizon representative said there is no
>way to do that on that model since "we do it over the air".

There probably is a way, but *228/1 is so much easier, and you have to
dial *228 anyway, to get the PRL, if you program the phone by hand.

>I also don't understand why the list retail price is the same for
>both phones ($239 or $339 or so, I forget which).

The PTT button doesn't cost very much.

What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
message "Network Not Available".)
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

On 2 Jan 2004 17:26:13 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
posted to alt.cellular.motorola:

>The v60s manual also lacked the information on how to set up the
>phone initially (meaning you have to let Verizon do it). I asked
>about that aspect, and the Verizon representative said there is no
>way to do that on that model since "we do it over the air".

There probably is a way, but *228/1 is so much easier, and you have to
dial *228 anyway, to get the PRL, if you program the phone by hand.

>I also don't understand why the list retail price is the same for
>both phones ($239 or $339 or so, I forget which).

The PTT button doesn't cost very much.

What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
message "Network Not Available".)
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
> On 2 Jan 2004 17:26:13 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
> posted to alt.cellular.motorola:
>
>>The v60s manual also lacked the information on how to set up the
>>phone initially (meaning you have to let Verizon do it). I asked
>>about that aspect, and the Verizon representative said there is no
>>way to do that on that model since "we do it over the air".
>
> There probably is a way, but *228/1 is so much easier, and you have to
> dial *228 anyway, to get the PRL, if you program the phone by hand.
>
>>I also don't understand why the list retail price is the same for
>>both phones ($239 or $339 or so, I forget which).
>
> The PTT button doesn't cost very much.
>
> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
> message "Network Not Available".)

Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...

In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
> On 2 Jan 2004 17:26:13 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
> posted to alt.cellular.motorola:
>
>>The v60s manual also lacked the information on how to set up the
>>phone initially (meaning you have to let Verizon do it). I asked
>>about that aspect, and the Verizon representative said there is no
>>way to do that on that model since "we do it over the air".
>
> There probably is a way, but *228/1 is so much easier, and you have to
> dial *228 anyway, to get the PRL, if you program the phone by hand.
>
>>I also don't understand why the list retail price is the same for
>>both phones ($239 or $339 or so, I forget which).
>
> The PTT button doesn't cost very much.
>
> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
> message "Network Not Available".)

Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...

On 2 Jan 2004 18:44:28 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
posted to alt.cellular.motorola:

>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:

>> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
>> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
>> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
>> message "Network Not Available".)

>Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...

If Verizon sold you one, that's how you'd get it. It's how I got both
of mine.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

On 2 Jan 2004 18:44:28 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
posted to alt.cellular.motorola:

>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:

>> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
>> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
>> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
>> message "Network Not Available".)

>Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...

If Verizon sold you one, that's how you'd get it. It's how I got both
of mine.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
> On 2 Jan 2004 18:44:28 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
> posted to alt.cellular.motorola:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
>>> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
>>> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
>>> message "Network Not Available".)
>
>>Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...
>
> If Verizon sold you one, that's how you'd get it. It's how I got both
> of mine.

They don't seem to sell them that way in Massachusetts this week,
even via Radio Shack.

In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
> On 2 Jan 2004 18:44:28 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
> posted to alt.cellular.motorola:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
>>> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
>>> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
>>> message "Network Not Available".)
>
>>Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...
>
> If Verizon sold you one, that's how you'd get it. It's how I got both
> of mine.

They don't seem to sell them that way in Massachusetts this week,
even via Radio Shack.

On 2 Jan 2004 22:31:42 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
posted to alt.cellular.motorola:

>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 2 Jan 2004 18:44:28 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
>> posted to alt.cellular.motorola:
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>>> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
>>>> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
>>>> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
>>>> message "Network Not Available".)
>>
>>>Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...
>>
>> If Verizon sold you one, that's how you'd get it. It's how I got both
>> of mine.
>
>They don't seem to sell them that way in Massachusetts this week,
>even via Radio Shack.

They haven't sold them that way in many months. I was just wondering
why they had Motorola design a new phone, when they could just have
sold the V60P for non-PTT plans. It's not like they added anything to
make the V60S better than the V60P.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net

On 2 Jan 2004 22:31:42 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
posted to alt.cellular.motorola:

>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 2 Jan 2004 18:44:28 -0600, [email protected] (Larry Kilgallen)
>> posted to alt.cellular.motorola:
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, Al Klein <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>>> What I don't understand is why Verizon didn't just sell the V60P
>>>> without a PTT plan. That would give you the V60S. (If you push the
>>>> PTT button on a V60P that isn't on a PTT plan, you just get the
>>>> message "Network Not Available".)
>>
>>>Ah, but how would I _get_ a V60P that is not on a PTT plan...
>>
>> If Verizon sold you one, that's how you'd get it. It's how I got both
>> of mine.
>
>They don't seem to sell them that way in Massachusetts this week,
>even via Radio Shack.

They haven't sold them that way in many months. I was just wondering
why they had Motorola design a new phone, when they could just have
sold the V60P for non-PTT plans. It's not like they added anything to
make the V60S better than the V60P.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net