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  1. #46
    David L
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    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    Richard <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I have service with a Canadian carrier. I am often in the US. At such
    > times, I would like to use Verizon prepaid which I evaluated will be
    > much more cost effective than hefty roaming charges. Verizon, as you
    > probably know, have no issues with activating foreign ESNs. The
    > StarTAC 7868W phone I have is compatible with both carriers for the
    > basic if not all functions.
    >
    > Is it possible to have 2 unique numbers on the same phone with
    > *different* carriers?
    >
    >


    Although I appreciate the already tested dual NAM and call forward
    solution...

    Just to complicate things...isn't there a US roaming plan offered so
    you can keep 1 phone and 1 number? I believe Verizon offers a Canadian
    inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    a US number for US callers though.

    There are some 800# that can be programmed to allow calling from
    canada as well as the US.

    There's also some calling services (Names escape me) that offer
    programable follow me 800# service. IIRC the caller dials an 800# and
    then the service forwards the call to any number the user selects.
    Sorry for the vague details, since I haven't used this service, just
    suggesting a possible solution that doesn't rely upon the
    handset/cellular system as the central switching point.

    FWIW A friend in the telecom business just told me about bigzoo.com
    offering something like 1.9 cents per minute to canada, using a local
    access number, otherwise it's 3.9.


    -----
    David



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  2. #47
    David L
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    Richard <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I have service with a Canadian carrier. I am often in the US. At such
    > times, I would like to use Verizon prepaid which I evaluated will be
    > much more cost effective than hefty roaming charges. Verizon, as you
    > probably know, have no issues with activating foreign ESNs. The
    > StarTAC 7868W phone I have is compatible with both carriers for the
    > basic if not all functions.
    >
    > Is it possible to have 2 unique numbers on the same phone with
    > *different* carriers?
    >
    >


    Although I appreciate the already tested dual NAM and call forward
    solution...

    Just to complicate things...isn't there a US roaming plan offered so
    you can keep 1 phone and 1 number? I believe Verizon offers a Canadian
    inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    a US number for US callers though.

    There are some 800# that can be programmed to allow calling from
    canada as well as the US.

    There's also some calling services (Names escape me) that offer
    programable follow me 800# service. IIRC the caller dials an 800# and
    then the service forwards the call to any number the user selects.
    Sorry for the vague details, since I haven't used this service, just
    suggesting a possible solution that doesn't rely upon the
    handset/cellular system as the central switching point.

    FWIW A friend in the telecom business just told me about bigzoo.com
    offering something like 1.9 cents per minute to canada, using a local
    access number, otherwise it's 3.9.


    -----
    David



  3. #48
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    In alt.cellular.verizon David L <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Just to complicate things...isn't there a US roaming plan offered so
    > you can keep 1 phone and 1 number? I believe Verizon offers a Canadian
    > inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    > carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    > a US number for US callers though.


    North America's Choice is US+Mexico+Canada. There may still be a $10/month or
    $20/month Canada calling option on National Single-Rate, too.

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  4. #49
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    In alt.cellular.verizon David L <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Just to complicate things...isn't there a US roaming plan offered so
    > you can keep 1 phone and 1 number? I believe Verizon offers a Canadian
    > inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    > carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    > a US number for US callers though.


    North America's Choice is US+Mexico+Canada. There may still be a $10/month or
    $20/month Canada calling option on National Single-Rate, too.

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    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / [email protected]
    Domain Names, $9.95/yr, 24x7 service: http://DomainNames.JustThe.net/
    "someone once called me a sofa, but i didn't feel compelled to rush out and buy
    slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows 98/2000/2003



  5. #50
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    In alt.cellular.verizon David L <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Just to complicate things...isn't there a US roaming plan offered so
    > you can keep 1 phone and 1 number? I believe Verizon offers a Canadian
    > inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    > carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    > a US number for US callers though.


    North America's Choice is US+Mexico+Canada. There may still be a $10/month or
    $20/month Canada calling option on National Single-Rate, too.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / [email protected]
    Domain Names, $9.95/yr, 24x7 service: http://DomainNames.JustThe.net/
    "someone once called me a sofa, but i didn't feel compelled to rush out and buy
    slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows 98/2000/2003



  6. #51
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    In alt.cellular.verizon David L <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Just to complicate things...isn't there a US roaming plan offered so
    > you can keep 1 phone and 1 number? I believe Verizon offers a Canadian
    > inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    > carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    > a US number for US callers though.


    North America's Choice is US+Mexico+Canada. There may still be a $10/month or
    $20/month Canada calling option on National Single-Rate, too.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, Apple Valley, CA PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / [email protected]
    Domain Names, $9.95/yr, 24x7 service: http://DomainNames.JustThe.net/
    "someone once called me a sofa, but i didn't feel compelled to rush out and buy
    slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows 98/2000/2003



  7. #52
    Richard
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    On 20 Apr 2004 10:42:40 -0700, [email protected] (David L) wrote:

    >inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    >carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    >a US number for US callers though.


    3/4 major carriers in Canada charge more than $1/min to receive, an
    extra to send. They make lots and lots on international roaming to
    offer better alternatives. Of what no roaming US plans exist, they are
    unappealing. Bell Mobility for example has a "Digital North America"
    plan, non roaming og and ic calls, but rates are $80 CAD/mo with
    surcharges and taxes factored in for only 200 minutes, $120 CAD fo 400
    minutes, etc. I may be in the US frequently but that doesn't jusfity
    these prices.

    A US number would help for my American contacts. especailly if it was
    a local one for them. So if I get Bell's Digital North America plan,
    it would be okay for og calls notwithstanding the extremely high per
    minute rate.

    The "follow me" 800 number idea of yours is interesting and has many
    possibilities. For example, it makes it easy for all my contacts
    whereever they are or where I am in Canada and US to call me by having
    one number that is toll free (for them). The 800 number fee would
    replace the LD charges for CF-ing to my Verizon number. It only
    remains to be seen if the cost-benefit ratio is in favour of this 800
    service. Let us know if you recall the names of such services.

    >There are some 800# that can be programmed to allow calling from
    >canada as well as the US.
    >
    >There's also some calling services (Names escape me) that offer
    >programable follow me 800# service. IIRC the caller dials an 800# and
    >then the service forwards the call to any number the user selects.
    >Sorry for the vague details, since I haven't used this service, just
    >suggesting a possible solution that doesn't rely upon the
    >handset/cellular system as the central switching point.
    >
    >FWIW A friend in the telecom business just told me about bigzoo.com
    >offering something like 1.9 cents per minute to canada, using a local
    >access number, otherwise it's 3.9.





  8. #53
    Richard
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    On 20 Apr 2004 10:42:40 -0700, [email protected] (David L) wrote:

    >inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    >carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    >a US number for US callers though.


    3/4 major carriers in Canada charge more than $1/min to receive, an
    extra to send. They make lots and lots on international roaming to
    offer better alternatives. Of what no roaming US plans exist, they are
    unappealing. Bell Mobility for example has a "Digital North America"
    plan, non roaming og and ic calls, but rates are $80 CAD/mo with
    surcharges and taxes factored in for only 200 minutes, $120 CAD fo 400
    minutes, etc. I may be in the US frequently but that doesn't jusfity
    these prices.

    A US number would help for my American contacts. especailly if it was
    a local one for them. So if I get Bell's Digital North America plan,
    it would be okay for og calls notwithstanding the extremely high per
    minute rate.

    The "follow me" 800 number idea of yours is interesting and has many
    possibilities. For example, it makes it easy for all my contacts
    whereever they are or where I am in Canada and US to call me by having
    one number that is toll free (for them). The 800 number fee would
    replace the LD charges for CF-ing to my Verizon number. It only
    remains to be seen if the cost-benefit ratio is in favour of this 800
    service. Let us know if you recall the names of such services.

    >There are some 800# that can be programmed to allow calling from
    >canada as well as the US.
    >
    >There's also some calling services (Names escape me) that offer
    >programable follow me 800# service. IIRC the caller dials an 800# and
    >then the service forwards the call to any number the user selects.
    >Sorry for the vague details, since I haven't used this service, just
    >suggesting a possible solution that doesn't rely upon the
    >handset/cellular system as the central switching point.
    >
    >FWIW A friend in the telecom business just told me about bigzoo.com
    >offering something like 1.9 cents per minute to canada, using a local
    >access number, otherwise it's 3.9.





  9. #54
    Richard
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    On 20 Apr 2004 10:42:40 -0700, [email protected] (David L) wrote:

    >inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    >carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    >a US number for US callers though.


    3/4 major carriers in Canada charge more than $1/min to receive, an
    extra to send. They make lots and lots on international roaming to
    offer better alternatives. Of what no roaming US plans exist, they are
    unappealing. Bell Mobility for example has a "Digital North America"
    plan, non roaming og and ic calls, but rates are $80 CAD/mo with
    surcharges and taxes factored in for only 200 minutes, $120 CAD fo 400
    minutes, etc. I may be in the US frequently but that doesn't jusfity
    these prices.

    A US number would help for my American contacts. especailly if it was
    a local one for them. So if I get Bell's Digital North America plan,
    it would be okay for og calls notwithstanding the extremely high per
    minute rate.

    The "follow me" 800 number idea of yours is interesting and has many
    possibilities. For example, it makes it easy for all my contacts
    whereever they are or where I am in Canada and US to call me by having
    one number that is toll free (for them). The 800 number fee would
    replace the LD charges for CF-ing to my Verizon number. It only
    remains to be seen if the cost-benefit ratio is in favour of this 800
    service. Let us know if you recall the names of such services.

    >There are some 800# that can be programmed to allow calling from
    >canada as well as the US.
    >
    >There's also some calling services (Names escape me) that offer
    >programable follow me 800# service. IIRC the caller dials an 800# and
    >then the service forwards the call to any number the user selects.
    >Sorry for the vague details, since I haven't used this service, just
    >suggesting a possible solution that doesn't rely upon the
    >handset/cellular system as the central switching point.
    >
    >FWIW A friend in the telecom business just told me about bigzoo.com
    >offering something like 1.9 cents per minute to canada, using a local
    >access number, otherwise it's 3.9.





  10. #55
    Richard
    Guest

    Re: Two phone numbers, different carriers, same phone?

    On 20 Apr 2004 10:42:40 -0700, [email protected] (David L) wrote:

    >inclusive roaming plan for a flat monthly fee. Doesn't your Canadian
    >carrier offer the reverse, no roaming US plan? I suppose you want to
    >a US number for US callers though.


    3/4 major carriers in Canada charge more than $1/min to receive, an
    extra to send. They make lots and lots on international roaming to
    offer better alternatives. Of what no roaming US plans exist, they are
    unappealing. Bell Mobility for example has a "Digital North America"
    plan, non roaming og and ic calls, but rates are $80 CAD/mo with
    surcharges and taxes factored in for only 200 minutes, $120 CAD fo 400
    minutes, etc. I may be in the US frequently but that doesn't jusfity
    these prices.

    A US number would help for my American contacts. especailly if it was
    a local one for them. So if I get Bell's Digital North America plan,
    it would be okay for og calls notwithstanding the extremely high per
    minute rate.

    The "follow me" 800 number idea of yours is interesting and has many
    possibilities. For example, it makes it easy for all my contacts
    whereever they are or where I am in Canada and US to call me by having
    one number that is toll free (for them). The 800 number fee would
    replace the LD charges for CF-ing to my Verizon number. It only
    remains to be seen if the cost-benefit ratio is in favour of this 800
    service. Let us know if you recall the names of such services.

    >There are some 800# that can be programmed to allow calling from
    >canada as well as the US.
    >
    >There's also some calling services (Names escape me) that offer
    >programable follow me 800# service. IIRC the caller dials an 800# and
    >then the service forwards the call to any number the user selects.
    >Sorry for the vague details, since I haven't used this service, just
    >suggesting a possible solution that doesn't rely upon the
    >handset/cellular system as the central switching point.
    >
    >FWIW A friend in the telecom business just told me about bigzoo.com
    >offering something like 1.9 cents per minute to canada, using a local
    >access number, otherwise it's 3.9.





  11. #56
    Casey Donovan
    Guest

    Two phone numbers, same carrier, same phone?

    On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:36:30 GMT, "Dr.wireMORE"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The dr offers: Yes. This is exactly why some phones have dual-nam
    >capability. Absolutely standard what you are asking to do.
    >
    >Setup nam1 with the carrier of your choice, setup nam 2 with the carrier of
    >your choice. We've assumed that the phone technology is compatible with
    >each provider, and also your comfortable that the namX that you've selected
    >will ring your phone, and the namX that isn't active will go unanswered.
    >
    >I've done this many times, and with StarTAC's. Before there were national
    >contracts, I'd have a local number on the west coast, and another local
    >number on the east coast. And depending on where I was, I'd setup one phone
    >number to call forward, and the other I'd pick up. It was very confusing at
    >times, and most phones have this dual nam capability.


    Sorry to tie into this thread long after it ended, but it touches on
    my question:

    Has the Dr., or anyone else, activated dual domestic NAM's on Verizon
    recently?

    I presently have two VZW accounts, one on a T-730, mostly used for
    business, and one on a StarTac 7868. A couple of months ago, I tried
    to move the StarTac number over to the T-730 as a second NAM, through
    VZW Cust Serv on the phone. After the usual routine, I got the
    answer, "my supervisor says we don't do two numbers on the same phone
    any more". This is in the Houston area.

    I'd still like to do it -- I don't need to be able to receive calls on
    both numbers at the same time. If someone knows that VZW really does
    still do windows, can you suggest a way to get past the next balky
    (lazy) CSR?




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