v60 antenna replacement

"Torrance Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Good luck installing a new antenna in that thing. The one I had snapped
> off, and there are no threads to speak of for installation of a new one.

Well, if they are selling replacements, it seems there must be some way to
replace it. I haven't yet figured out how though.


> It's seems the antenna was built as a part of the phone. I have seen
> the extending antennas, and I personally think they are completely
> useless. What good is and extra inch? If anyone can give me an actual
> figure in how many more decibels it gives you, I will be impressed.
> Actual testing too, not manufacturer specs.
>
> Torrance

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"Torrance Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Good luck installing a new antenna in that thing. The one I had snapped
> off, and there are no threads to speak of for installation of a new one.

Well, if they are selling replacements, it seems there must be some way to
replace it. I haven't yet figured out how though.


> It's seems the antenna was built as a part of the phone. I have seen
> the extending antennas, and I personally think they are completely
> useless. What good is and extra inch? If anyone can give me an actual
> figure in how many more decibels it gives you, I will be impressed.
> Actual testing too, not manufacturer specs.
>
> Torrance

Hi Torrance,

On Mon, 17 May 2004 04:49:27 +0000, Torrance Bell wrote:

> is that a really good improvement?

It's a difference of 10 to the -10.5th power vs 10 to the -11th power.

..00000000000316228
vs
..00000000000100000

Note: I'm not a math person, take the above figures with a grain of salt.

So roughly 3 times the signal. Granted my measurements weren't
scientific - when I return from vacation I'll probably do more extensive
testing (along with a Wilson car antenna and a Wilson Yagi antenna).

I do, however, notice a near-immediate change from "No Service"
when sitting at my desk to getting digital service when I extend the
antenna - this is where I did my test.

More information on deciBels can be found at:
http://www.wordiq.com/cgi-bin/knowle...?title=Decibel

> How did you take the measurements?

Test mode: while the v60t boots, press ##. (To leave test mode, menu then
left-soft.)

Cheers,
Tim

Hi Torrance,

On Mon, 17 May 2004 04:49:27 +0000, Torrance Bell wrote:

> is that a really good improvement?

It's a difference of 10 to the -10.5th power vs 10 to the -11th power.

..00000000000316228
vs
..00000000000100000

Note: I'm not a math person, take the above figures with a grain of salt.

So roughly 3 times the signal. Granted my measurements weren't
scientific - when I return from vacation I'll probably do more extensive
testing (along with a Wilson car antenna and a Wilson Yagi antenna).

I do, however, notice a near-immediate change from "No Service"
when sitting at my desk to getting digital service when I extend the
antenna - this is where I did my test.

More information on deciBels can be found at:
http://www.wordiq.com/cgi-bin/knowle...?title=Decibel

> How did you take the measurements?

Test mode: while the v60t boots, press ##. (To leave test mode, menu then
left-soft.)

Cheers,
Tim

Unfortunatly, my v60 broke a long time ago. I forgot to mention what I
was using as my antenna, here is a pic of it:
http://www.lordshadowstar.com/Phone01.gif
http://www.lordshadowstar.com/Phone02.gif
http://www.lordshadowstar.com/Phone03.gif

Torrance

Unfortunatly, my v60 broke a long time ago. I forgot to mention what I
was using as my antenna, here is a pic of it:
http://www.lordshadowstar.com/Phone01.gif
http://www.lordshadowstar.com/Phone02.gif
http://www.lordshadowstar.com/Phone03.gif

Torrance

Hi Torrance,

Now that's creative! You might try a longer screw to see if you can get
another 4dB out of it! LOL

Cheers,
Tim

Hi Torrance,

Now that's creative! You might try a longer screw to see if you can get
another 4dB out of it! LOL

Cheers,
Tim

A 3 db gain essentially doubles signal strength. It's logarithmic - not
linear. I had a short pull up antenna on my v60 and found that in
strong signal areas it made no difference but in weak areas it offered
one "bar" of improvement. Not a scientific study by any means but it did
help a little. Given the cost of about $2 for the antenna it's worth
experimenting with.

From:Torrance Bell
[email protected]

> is that a really good improvement? How did you take the measurements?
>> P I'm not real big on how much signal phones use or need, i just
>> wonder
> if it makes that much of a difference. I know most of the nokia
> phones dont even have an antenna stub.
>
> Torrance

A 3 db gain essentially doubles signal strength. It's logarithmic - not
linear. I had a short pull up antenna on my v60 and found that in
strong signal areas it made no difference but in weak areas it offered
one "bar" of improvement. Not a scientific study by any means but it did
help a little. Given the cost of about $2 for the antenna it's worth
experimenting with.

From:Torrance Bell
[email protected]

> is that a really good improvement? How did you take the measurements?
>> P I'm not real big on how much signal phones use or need, i just
>> wonder
> if it makes that much of a difference. I know most of the nokia
> phones dont even have an antenna stub.
>
> Torrance