How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i

Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?

Thanks.

- ESJ

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; Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?

Doubtful. That's the timer that tells the user and/or tech services
how much the phone has been used. Lifetime timers are generally
specifically not resettable for the same reason the odometer on your
car is not resettable.

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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, E Jones wrote:

> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - ESJ

Not without re-flashing the phone's firmware.

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, E Jones wrote:

> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - ESJ

Not without re-flashing the phone's firmware.

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?

What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used
car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's
not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you
are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!

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Now why would you want to do that?? The answer is no, but I am suspicious
of anyone desiring to do so..


"E Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - ESJ
>
>
>

Now why would you want to do that?? The answer is no, but I am suspicious
of anyone desiring to do so..


"E Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - ESJ
>
>
>

Joseph wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
>> (CDMA)?
>
> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used
> car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's
> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you
> are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
>
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AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would
diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see
(looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've
logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever!
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-Philip

Joseph wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
>> (CDMA)?
>
> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used
> car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's
> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you
> are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
>
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AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would
diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see
(looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've
logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever!
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-Philip

"Philip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Joseph wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
> >> (CDMA)?
> >
> > What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used
> > car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's
> > not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you
> > are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would
> diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see
> (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've
> logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever!
> --
>
> -Philip

No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay...

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JennL

"Philip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Joseph wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
> >> (CDMA)?
> >
> > What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used
> > car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's
> > not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you
> > are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would
> diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see
> (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've
> logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever!
> --
>
> -Philip

No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay...

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JennL

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 05:26:44 GMT, "Philip"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Joseph wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
>>> (CDMA)?
>>
>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used
>> car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's
>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you
>> are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
>AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would
>diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see
>(looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've
>logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever!

In other words you have no qualms ethically if you had the ability you
would roll back the lifetimer or roll back an odometer on a car, eh?
The "whatever" may be important to someone who doesn't particularly
want a unit that's been used to death. That's what the "whatever" is.
Or perhaps you don't think honesty is important?
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ModernMiko wrote:
> "Philip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>> Joseph wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
>>>> (CDMA)?
>>>
>>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a
>>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that
>>> there's
>>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what
>>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>>
>> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours
>> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL
>> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how
>> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22
>> months. Whatever! --
>>
>> -Philip
>
> No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay...


Think about the mortality curve. Lots of failures in the first 5% of a
device's life and then a sharp decrease. An "experienced" device has
survived the most failure prone period of its life expectancy.
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-Philip

ModernMiko wrote:
> "Philip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>> Joseph wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
>>>> (CDMA)?
>>>
>>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a
>>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that
>>> there's
>>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what
>>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>>
>> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours
>> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL
>> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how
>> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22
>> months. Whatever! --
>>
>> -Philip
>
> No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay...


Think about the mortality curve. Lots of failures in the first 5% of a
device's life and then a sharp decrease. An "experienced" device has
survived the most failure prone period of its life expectancy.
--

-Philip

Joseph wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 05:26:44 GMT, "Philip"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Joseph wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i
>>>> (CDMA)?
>>>
>>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a
>>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that
>>> there's
>>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what
>>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone!
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>>
>> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours
>> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL
>> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how
>> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22
>> months. Whatever!
>
>
> In other words you have no qualms ethically if you had the ability you
> would roll back the lifetimer or roll back an odometer on a car, eh?
> The "whatever" may be important to someone who doesn't particularly
> want a unit that's been used to death. That's what the "whatever" is.
> Or perhaps you don't think honesty is important?
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That may be your inference but such is not reflected in what I posted.
Since you wish to make this into a discussion of ethics, it is an academic
falsehood to reset the lifetime timer to zero. Now ... with an electronic
component, does that matter in any tangible sense? There are no moving
parts and keyboards are very cheap. So it must be some kind of false sense
of security that a 'zero' lifetime number brings. My 9155 phone works no
differently now than when it was new. What percentage of life expectancy is
239 hrs? You have no idea.

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-Philip