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  1. #1
    dazed
    Guest
    Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    Cingular strength is good.

    I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered on
    that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming a
    real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network busy".

    I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    Cingular or AT&T? TIA!

    Ryan





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  2. #2
    M. D. Borca
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    I've had this same issue with all the phones I've owned on the ATT
    network for the past 6 or so months when I was living in a certain
    location which had quite a bit of hills and buildings to block
    signals. For me the issue existed in an mpx200 and a SE T637. I now
    own a V505 and I get the problem in certain places as you just
    desribed here. I haven't been able to find a solution, other than to
    manually switch to the network proving the stronger signal each time
    you want to make a call. Or to leave the place the problems occur at.
    If you ask ATT They most likely will not have much to say to you other
    than what I just said. They will ask you where you live and if there
    are arial obstructions and so on.. and that it is most likely why you
    get the problem, they may also say to you that the ATT signal may be
    weak in the area and that the Cingular signal is stronger, in my mind,
    this all may be happening for the most part due to constant variance
    in air signal activity.. perhaps constant uncontrollable distortions -
    given out either by other devices, or utility lines, or who knows
    what?...

    Good luck, don't pull your hairs out - maybe if you walked 30 seconds
    in a certain direction it may not be so bad or if maybe exiting the
    building/area.


    > Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    > out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    > Cingular strength is good.
    >
    > I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered on
    > that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming a
    > real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    > time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network busy".
    >
    > I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    > Cingular or AT&T? TIA!
    >
    > Ryan




  3. #3
    M. D. Borca
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    I've had this same issue with all the phones I've owned on the ATT
    network for the past 6 or so months when I was living in a certain
    location which had quite a bit of hills and buildings to block
    signals. For me the issue existed in an mpx200 and a SE T637. I now
    own a V505 and I get the problem in certain places as you just
    desribed here. I haven't been able to find a solution, other than to
    manually switch to the network proving the stronger signal each time
    you want to make a call. Or to leave the place the problems occur at.
    If you ask ATT They most likely will not have much to say to you other
    than what I just said. They will ask you where you live and if there
    are arial obstructions and so on.. and that it is most likely why you
    get the problem, they may also say to you that the ATT signal may be
    weak in the area and that the Cingular signal is stronger, in my mind,
    this all may be happening for the most part due to constant variance
    in air signal activity.. perhaps constant uncontrollable distortions -
    given out either by other devices, or utility lines, or who knows
    what?...

    Good luck, don't pull your hairs out - maybe if you walked 30 seconds
    in a certain direction it may not be so bad or if maybe exiting the
    building/area.


    > Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    > out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    > Cingular strength is good.
    >
    > I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered on
    > that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming a
    > real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    > time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network busy".
    >
    > I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    > Cingular or AT&T? TIA!
    >
    > Ryan




  4. #4
    Bob the Printer
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks


    "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    > out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    > Cingular strength is good.
    >
    > I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered
    > on that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming
    > a real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    > time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network
    > busy".
    >
    > I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    > Cingular or AT&T? TIA!


    Note the name of this newsgroup! ALT.CELLULAR.MOTOROLA....Not cingular, or
    AT&T!





  5. #5
    Bob the Printer
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks


    "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    > out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    > Cingular strength is good.
    >
    > I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered
    > on that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming
    > a real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    > time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network
    > busy".
    >
    > I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    > Cingular or AT&T? TIA!


    Note the name of this newsgroup! ALT.CELLULAR.MOTOROLA....Not cingular, or
    AT&T!





  6. #6
    M. D. Borca
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    > > Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    > > out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    > > Cingular strength is good.
    > >
    > > I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered
    > > on that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming
    > > a real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    > > time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network
    > > busy".
    > >
    > > I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    > > Cingular or AT&T? TIA!

    >
    > Note the name of this newsgroup! ALT.CELLULAR.MOTOROLA....Not cingular, or
    > AT&T!


    NOTE the fact that he is having these issues with a motorola phone.
    Not all people are cellular wizards and know that sometimes their
    reception issues are not phone induced but caused due to other
    reasons. Give him a break Bob.



  7. #7
    M. D. Borca
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    > > Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    > > out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    > > Cingular strength is good.
    > >
    > > I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered
    > > on that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming
    > > a real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    > > time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network
    > > busy".
    > >
    > > I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    > > Cingular or AT&T? TIA!

    >
    > Note the name of this newsgroup! ALT.CELLULAR.MOTOROLA....Not cingular, or
    > AT&T!


    NOTE the fact that he is having these issues with a motorola phone.
    Not all people are cellular wizards and know that sometimes their
    reception issues are not phone induced but caused due to other
    reasons. Give him a break Bob.



  8. #8
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:12:23 GMT,
    "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    >out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    >Cingular strength is good.
    >
    >I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered on
    >that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming a
    >real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    >time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network busy".
    >
    >I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    >Cingular or AT&T? TIA!


    This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to use the
    ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a better signal.

    I expect this to change in the relatively near future as Cingular integrates
    the two networks. Until then you're only solutions are (a) what you're doing
    now or (b) switch to Cingular (although you might lose use of ATTWS in the
    short term).

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>



  9. #9
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:12:23 GMT,
    "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    >out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    >Cingular strength is good.
    >
    >I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered on
    >that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming a
    >real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    >time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network busy".
    >
    >I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    >Cingular or AT&T? TIA!


    This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to use the
    ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a better signal.

    I expect this to change in the relatively near future as Cingular integrates
    the two networks. Until then you're only solutions are (a) what you're doing
    now or (b) switch to Cingular (although you might lose use of ATTWS in the
    short term).

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>



  10. #10
    dazed
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    John - thanks for the clarification. Looks like I'm stuck b/t a rock and a
    hard place on this one. Makes me wonder whether or not I should have gone
    with Verizon.

    In any event, I've heard that on the Moto phones with the stub antenna, you
    could find replacement retractable antennas that may give you an extra bar
    of signal strength. Do you know if there's any truth (or value) to that
    statement? Thanks!

    Ryan


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:12:23
    > GMT,
    > "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Greetigs - I just purchased a v505 phone with AT&T service. When working
    >>out of my home, I struggle with catching a reliable AT&T signal, but the
    >>Cingular strength is good.
    >>
    >>I can register the phone with Cingular and it generally stays registered
    >>on
    >>that network for the call, but tends to go back to AT&T. It's becoming a
    >>real pain to keep switching it manually, especially considering half the
    >>time when searching for networks, the phone comes back with "network
    >>busy".
    >>
    >>I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    >>Cingular or AT&T? TIA!

    >
    > This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    > control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to use
    > the
    > ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a better
    > signal.
    >
    > I expect this to change in the relatively near future as Cingular
    > integrates
    > the two networks. Until then you're only solutions are (a) what you're
    > doing
    > now or (b) switch to Cingular (although you might lose use of ATTWS in the
    > short term).
    >
    > --
    > Best regards,
    > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>






  11. #11
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:11:35 GMT,
    "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...


    >> This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    >> control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to use
    >> the
    >> ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a better
    >> signal.
    >>
    >> I expect this to change in the relatively near future as Cingular
    >> integrates
    >> the two networks. Until then you're only solutions are (a) what you're
    >> doing
    >> now or (b) switch to Cingular (although you might lose use of ATTWS in the
    >> short term).


    >John - thanks for the clarification. Looks like I'm stuck b/t a rock and a
    >hard place on this one. Makes me wonder whether or not I should have gone
    >with Verizon.


    I don't think it will take long for Cingular to get this worked out, perhaps
    first to define both networks as Home, and then to fully integrate them.

    >In any event, I've heard that on the Moto phones with the stub antenna, you
    >could find replacement retractable antennas that may give you an extra bar
    >of signal strength. Do you know if there's any truth (or value) to that
    >statement? Thanks!


    A properly-designed extendable antenna can be worth about one bar of signal
    when extended. (Stick-on "boosters" are worthless.) However, I don't know of
    a properly-designed extendable antenna for the V500-series -- all the ones
    I've seen are crap.

    It's possible that a different phone would do a better job of holding a weak
    signal and/or switching networks.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>



  12. #12
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:11:35 GMT,
    "dazed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...


    >> This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    >> control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to use
    >> the
    >> ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a better
    >> signal.
    >>
    >> I expect this to change in the relatively near future as Cingular
    >> integrates
    >> the two networks. Until then you're only solutions are (a) what you're
    >> doing
    >> now or (b) switch to Cingular (although you might lose use of ATTWS in the
    >> short term).


    >John - thanks for the clarification. Looks like I'm stuck b/t a rock and a
    >hard place on this one. Makes me wonder whether or not I should have gone
    >with Verizon.


    I don't think it will take long for Cingular to get this worked out, perhaps
    first to define both networks as Home, and then to fully integrate them.

    >In any event, I've heard that on the Moto phones with the stub antenna, you
    >could find replacement retractable antennas that may give you an extra bar
    >of signal strength. Do you know if there's any truth (or value) to that
    >statement? Thanks!


    A properly-designed extendable antenna can be worth about one bar of signal
    when extended. (Stick-on "boosters" are worthless.) However, I don't know of
    a properly-designed extendable antenna for the V500-series -- all the ones
    I've seen are crap.

    It's possible that a different phone would do a better job of holding a weak
    signal and/or switching networks.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>



  13. #13
    nefarious
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    >>I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    >>Cingular or AT&T? TIA!

    >
    > This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    > control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to
    > use the ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a
    > better signal.


    Not entirely true. I don't have my v505 yet (ordered it yesterday through
    business operations) but my POS Nec 515 has the option to select the
    network search type. When I go into phone setup... network setup... there
    is an option to set search type... auto or manual. I choose manual and then
    back up a level... select new search and manually choose Cingular. It will
    stay there until I select AT&T again. Is this not an option on the v505?
    I'll be a little disappointed, but just getting rid of the pile of crap NEC
    will be worth it.



  14. #14
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: v505 Networks

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sat, 20 Nov 2004
    11:09:02 -0600, nefarious <[email protected]> wrote:

    >John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
    >news:[email protected]:
    >
    >>>I don't see it in the menus, but is there a way to force the phone to
    >>>Cingular or AT&T? TIA!

    >>
    >> This is due to the programming on your ATTWS SIM, which is out of your
    >> control, not the phone itself. That programming tells the phone to
    >> use the ATTWS network when it's available, no matter if Cingular has a
    >> better signal.

    >
    >Not entirely true.


    Entirely true. The SIM is programmed with ATTWS as the Home network, which by
    the GSM standard means that ATTWS will be preferred over non-Home networks
    (including Cingular), and that preference can't be changed by the subscriber.
    If not disallowed by SIM programming (as Cingular does), that preference can
    be overridden, but normally only on a case-by-case basis.

    >I don't have my v505 yet (ordered it yesterday through
    >business operations) but my POS Nec 515 has the option to select the
    >network search type. When I go into phone setup... network setup... there
    >is an option to set search type... auto or manual. I choose manual and then
    >back up a level... select new search and manually choose Cingular. It will
    >stay there until I select AT&T again. Is this not an option on the v505?
    >I'll be a little disappointed, but just getting rid of the pile of crap NEC
    >will be worth it.


    In the case of Motorola handsets (this context), manual selection will only
    stay that way until networks change (or a power cycle), whereupon the handset
    will revert to automatic selection. GSM handsets normally work that way.
    I suspect NEC does too, but haven't ever used one.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



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