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  1. #16
    BruceR
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    Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"

    Either the maunufacturer or a special refurb company. There are some
    companies who contract refurb services and have access to all the OEM
    parts to do whatever is needed. Generally, a refurb is a unit that has
    been returned becuase a customer changed their mind or there was some
    other minor problem. Units with major problems are stripped and recycled
    with some parts salvaged as spares. A refurb may have cosmetic blemishes
    but should operate to "as-new" specs. A refurb provided as a warranty
    replacement will have a warranty equal to the remainder of the original
    unit's warranty but not less than 90 days. Is it as good as brand new?
    Actually, it may be better since it was tested to meet spec while new
    ones aren't always tested and tweaked. It's not brand new, but neither
    was the phone you turned in.

    From:Quick
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    > what?? Do you think VZW refurbishes phones?
    > The manufacturers do that, right?
    >
    > -Quick
    >
    > USENET READER wrote:
    >> SO if you can't really repair these phones, what then am
    >> I getting in a refurb phone? It was obviously a phone
    >> that had problems, so if they
    >> can't do anything but replace batteries and antennas,
    >> what did they refurb?
    >>
    >> If they can't do much to a refurbed phone other than
    >> battery and antenna replacement, then I am getting a
    >> phone where the other non-servicable parts are more
    >> likely to break than on a factory-fresh phone. So
    >> clearly, these throw-away phone aren't worth refurbing.
    >>
    >> And I don't need to be in the repair business to use
    >> logic to know that your logic sucks - phones that aren't
    >> manufactured with repairs in mind shouldn't be refurbed.
    >> Refurbing is just a way to foist off a used POS marginal
    >> (was once someone else's problem) phone on someone who
    >> would otherwise might jump ship when their phone craps
    >> out.
    >>
    >> speedy wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> USENET READER wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> None of you have answered the question - why sell a
    >>>> phone under a new every two plan if they have no way to
    >>>> diagnose or fix a phone other than to replace it with a
    >>>> crappy refurb?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> You're obviously NOT in the repair business. Other than
    >>> antennas and battery problems, you really cant make
    >>> repairs on most phones. You really cant make repairs on
    >>> much of anything these days, especially anything
    >>> electronic. They just arent manufactured with repairs in
    >>> mind, period. Refurb isnt crappy, just different.
    >>>
    >>> -Pete






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  2. #17
    Da Welsh-Git
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    Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"

    HI there

    >> It's an ENGRAVED phone with some sentimental
    >> saying commemorating some once in a lifetime
    >> event so it's absolutely priceless and irreplaceable.

    >
    > No offense, but considering the fact that the network is still evolving
    > and the general life span of most phones is accepted as limited, engraving
    > a cell phone and presenting that as a gift is, well, a dumb idea.


    An idea none the less.

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