Updating phonetools 3.11h to 3.25b

>I had the same experience as Steve. Started off with the Lite version, then
>installed 3.11 over that. All the features were now unlocked and worked. I
>then accepted the LiveUpdate, which appeared to roll things back, locking
>all the unlocked features again. I then uninstalled everything and
>reinstalled 3.11, and have left it at that. Numerous bugs, but at least
>parts of it work now.

That's exactly what I did. Uninstalled everything, cleaned up the
registry, reinstalled 3.11h "unlocked" and stood there. :-)

I may report the "bug" to Motorola, but I fear that they'll reply
it's not a bug but a "feature" and they wanted the new version
to look like the "lite" one so users are not lost with a new
graphical user interface.
The nag screens thought are not a "feature"!!!


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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:05:19
+0200, Steve JORDI <[email protected]> wrote:

>Alan,
>I enclose here 2 screen captures.
>[SNIP]

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Post binaries to a *binaries* newsgroup only (or on a website or FTP server),
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>FYI, binaries (e.g., uuencoded programs or pictures) should never be posted to
>discussion newsgroups; most discussion newsgroups do not permit binary posts.
>Post binaries to a *binaries* newsgroup only (or on a website or FTP server),
>with a notice in relevant discussion newsgroup(s).

I've noticed... I've should have posted them on my web site. :-(

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On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:36:03 +0100, "Eric Baber"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Alan Bremner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

>> This is really weird, Steve. I've done exactly the same as you, going
>> from 3.11h 'Lite' that came with my V3 to the 'Deluxe' version I
>> currently use. However none of my updates have had the effect you
>> describe, including v3.28 which went on just a few days ago.

>I had the same experience as Steve. Started off with the Lite version, then
>installed 3.11 over that.

I wonder if installing over the 'Lite' version had a bearing? My
'Deluxe' was v3.11h (I've just checked the archived copy to make sure)
and v3.11h 'Lite' came with the phone. However I uninstalled it before
installing the fully functional version of the program.

Al
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Alan,
BVRP contacted me and sent me the 3.25b version and I
did proceed to a fresh install. It didn't help.
I sent them screenshots of the SMS window from
3.11 (the one I like) and from 3.25, which has no
options whatsoever. I'm awaiting an answer.
As I told them, maybe they redesigned the graphical user
interface to look like the lite version so the user won't
be lost with new buttons, etc. I don't know.
I keep 3.11h and don't upgrade it as this is the one
I prefer.


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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:18:56
+0200, Steve JORDI <[email protected]> wrote:

>BVRP contacted me and sent me the 3.25b version and I
>did proceed to a fresh install. It didn't help.
>I sent them screenshots of the SMS window from
>3.11 (the one I like) and from 3.25, which has no
>options whatsoever. I'm awaiting an answer.
>As I told them, maybe they redesigned the graphical user
>interface to look like the lite version so the user won't
>be lost with new buttons, etc. I don't know.
>...

FYI, that's not the case -- 3.28 (the latest version) definitely has an SMS
window.

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>FYI, that's not the case -- 3.28 (the latest version) definitely has an SMS
>window.

What I meant is the full sms window with the scheduling options from
3.11h, phone book buttons, etc. Not the one with the simple text
message and the line for the phone. That simple window has a blue
background.



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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:14:27 +0200, Steve JORDI
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>>FYI, that's not the case -- 3.28 (the latest version) definitely has an SMS
>>window.
>
>What I meant is the full sms window with the scheduling options from
>3.11h, phone book buttons, etc. Not the one with the simple text
>message and the line for the phone. That simple window has a blue
>background.
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Steve JORDI


I started with 3.11, and now am up to 3.28. Frankly, I can't see any
difference in the graphics. Looks exactly the same to me.

Dick

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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:14:27
+0200, Steve JORDI <[email protected]> wrote:

>>FYI, that's not the case -- 3.28 (the latest version) definitely has an SMS
>>window.
>
>What I meant is the full sms window with the scheduling options from
>3.11h, phone book buttons, etc. Not the one with the simple text
>message and the line for the phone. That simple window has a blue
>background.

As in
<http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/Captures/images/025.jpg>

From a quick look at <http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/>,
that seems to be pretty much the only difference, and not one that I would
care much about -- am I missing something else?

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>I started with 3.11, and now am up to 3.28. Frankly, I can't see any
>difference in the graphics. Looks exactly the same to me.

Dick, they do look pretty different to me.
Check them on
www.sjordi.com/temp/311.gif for the 3.11h version
www.sjordi.com/temp/325.gif for the updated version!

325 is the same window as in the lite version that comes with the
phone.
Once 3.11h is upgraded (bougght, called the "Deluxe" edition)
it comes with all the options!

I'm not talking about the software version that is brought on
the CD-Rom with the phone, I'm talking about the upgraded version
that costs $29.95 more. It unlocks everything, turns it into 3.11h.

Once unlocked, upgrading it to 3.25 or 3.28 using liveupdate turns
it back to the lite version.


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>From a quick look at <http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/>,
>that seems to be pretty much the only difference, and not one that I would
>care much about -- am I missing something else?

Yes, see what I just posted to Dick.

www.sjordi.com/temp/311.gif
and
www.sjordi.com/temp/325.gif

Pretty different.
3.11 is what I gained by unlocking the soft.
3.25 is a step backward.


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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:39:25
+0200, Steve JORDI <[email protected]> wrote:

>>From a quick look at <http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/>,
>>that seems to be pretty much the only difference, and not one that I would
>>care much about -- am I missing something else?
>
>Yes, see what I just posted to Dick.
>
>www.sjordi.com/temp/311.gif
>and
>www.sjordi.com/temp/325.gif
>
>Pretty different.
>3.11 is what I gained by unlocking the soft.
>3.25 is a step backward.

As compared to
<http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/Captures/images/025.jpg>,
looks like your 3.11 is better only in scheduling, but lacks the formatting.

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>As compared to
><http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/Captures/images/025.jpg>,
>looks like your 3.11 is better only in scheduling, but lacks the formatting.

Yes, but formatting doesn't work for SMS anyway.
But still the windows are totally different. And I don't want the
"Learn more" side popup panels appearing again to ask me to upgrade
to the Deluxe version in other windows (like the phone book one).
I did upgrade to the Deluxe version to get rid off those!

And anyway, the picture you make me point to never appeared in any
versions I got. I never had any formatting options! So the one on
BVRP's site is not the 325.gif I have (though this may be related
to the phone itself).
It seems totally inconsistent between versions.
311.gif has nothing to do with 325.gif!

Anyway, I'll stick to 3.11h

Thanks all for your contributions.


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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 08 Oct 2005 23:10:23
+0200, Steve JORDI <[email protected]> wrote:

>>As compared to
>><http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/mobilephonetools/Captures/images/025.jpg>,
>>looks like your 3.11 is better only in scheduling, but lacks the formatting.
>
>Yes, but formatting doesn't work for SMS anyway.

Is scheduling really something you care about?

>But still the windows are totally different.

I personally prefer the cleaner look.

>And I don't want the
>"Learn more" side popup panels appearing again to ask me to upgrade
>to the Deluxe version in other windows (like the phone book one).
>I did upgrade to the Deluxe version to get rid off those!

I'm not seeing that.

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OK Steve. Now I understand what you are talking about. Yes, I have
the "old" screen for text messages. I had never looked at that as I
couldn't imagine why someone would send a cel phone text message with
a computer when you can just send an e-mail. So it wouldn't bother me
if that "feature" wasn't even included with MPT. I only use it for
uploading/downloading files between the phone and computer.

Dick



On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:38:06 +0200, Steve JORDI
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>I started with 3.11, and now am up to 3.28. Frankly, I can't see any
>>difference in the graphics. Looks exactly the same to me.
>
>Dick, they do look pretty different to me.
>Check them on
> www.sjordi.com/temp/311.gif for the 3.11h version
> www.sjordi.com/temp/325.gif for the updated version!
>
>325 is the same window as in the lite version that comes with the
>phone.
>Once 3.11h is upgraded (bougght, called the "Deluxe" edition)
>it comes with all the options!
>
>I'm not talking about the software version that is brought on
>the CD-Rom with the phone, I'm talking about the upgraded version
>that costs $29.95 more. It unlocks everything, turns it into 3.11h.
>
>Once unlocked, upgrading it to 3.25 or 3.28 using liveupdate turns
>it back to the lite version.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Steve JORDI