Motorola V3 what a miserable piece of junk

Bought one on PAYG from Orange and what a total piece of crap. The
connection software crashes my PC when it tries to sync with Outlook and the
phone refuses to work with any Bluetooth device I try to use to connect to
the Internet via GPRS despite the fact the same devices work well with my
old Sony Ericsson phone. It also fails ot pick up a signal in my house,
despite my old Sony phone working fine in the same area.

The phone is totally unusable with these defects and is little more than a
paper weight

Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130 piece of
crap?

Martin

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec 2005
10:34:32 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Bought one on PAYG from Orange and what a total piece of crap. The
>connection software crashes my PC when it tries to sync with Outlook and the
>phone refuses to work with any Bluetooth device I try to use to connect to
>the Internet via GPRS despite the fact the same devices work well with my
>old Sony Ericsson phone. It also fails ot pick up a signal in my house,
>despite my old Sony phone working fine in the same area.
>
>The phone is totally unusable with these defects and is little more than a
>paper weight
>
>Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130 piece of
>crap?

Get better computer hardware and/or software. The V3 works great.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec 2005
> 10:34:32 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Bought one on PAYG from Orange and what a total piece of crap. The
>>connection software crashes my PC when it tries to sync with Outlook and
>>the
>>phone refuses to work with any Bluetooth device I try to use to connect to
>>the Internet via GPRS despite the fact the same devices work well with my
>>old Sony Ericsson phone. It also fails ot pick up a signal in my house,
>>despite my old Sony phone working fine in the same area.
>>
>>The phone is totally unusable with these defects and is little more than a
>>paper weight
>>
>>Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130 piece of
>>crap?
>
> Get better computer hardware and/or software. The V3 works great.
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

No the phone doesn't work great. It's crap.

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a ?130 piece of
> crap?

I'll be happy to make it so that you never have to look at it again.

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Not sure what problem you are having, though it might be a software\Driver
issue. Since my girlfriend, lives off Text messaging, I plug my V3 into 3
different PCs constantly and never had a BSOD. (currently using MPT 3.28)

I also use the software to upload\download Pics, MP3\ringtones etc. I don't
use the Sync with outlook feature that much, and I don't use the GPRS at
all.

I don't have signal issues where I live, and where I do have signal issues,
some does everyone elses phone.

Maybe you just got a bum phone. Seeing that the V3 has won just about all
the different phone awards and Editor's picks. I don't think it can be that
bad.

Then again you crazy Brits probably add stuff to your phone that ruins it.
:P

>
> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130 piece of
> crap?
>
> Martin
>
>

"Dale White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:inCof.409117$084.333330@attbi_s22...
>
> Not sure what problem you are having, though it might be a software\Driver
> issue. Since my girlfriend, lives off Text messaging, I plug my V3 into 3
> different PCs constantly and never had a BSOD. (currently using MPT 3.28)
>
> I also use the software to upload\download Pics, MP3\ringtones etc. I
> don't use the Sync with outlook feature that much, and I don't use the
> GPRS at all.
>
> I don't have signal issues where I live, and where I do have signal
> issues, some does everyone elses phone.
>
> Maybe you just got a bum phone. Seeing that the V3 has won just about all
> the different phone awards and Editor's picks. I don't think it can be
> that bad.
>
> Then again you crazy Brits probably add stuff to your phone that ruins it.
> :P
>
>>
>> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130 piece of
>> crap?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>
>

Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a GPRS
connection, there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works in two other
phones. The phone starts to connect then just drops the connection. Having
had a read on the net, there seems to be many complains about Bluetooth on
this phone and GPRS. I had a similar problem with the last clamshell phone I
owned (an awful Panasonic GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess. Oh
well, looks like my air rifle will have some good target practice this
weekend :-)

Martin

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec 2005
17:16:10 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a GPRS
>connection,

First step is to verify that the phone can get GPRS connections all by itself.
If it can't, then it probably needs to be configured. If it can, then you
probably have either a tether issue of a laptop/PDA issue.

>there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works in two other
>phones.

The phone also needs to be configured.

>The phone starts to connect then just drops the connection.

Typical symptom of a phone that hasn't been configured properly.

>Having
>had a read on the net, there seems to be many complains about Bluetooth on
>this phone and GPRS.

In fact the Bluetooth in the phone works fine, as a great many users know from
experience. The usual problem is at the other end, either hardware or the
Bluetooth drivers.

>I had a similar problem with the last clamshell phone I
>owned (an awful Panasonic GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess.

There is of course no relationship between them. If there is a lesson to be
learned, it's probably that you have hardware and/or software problems
unrelated to the phone.

>Oh
>well, looks like my air rifle will have some good target practice this
>weekend :-)

I'm beginning to see why you have a problem.

"It's a poor workman who blames his tools." [proverb]

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Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

Put it on ebay.

From:Martin
[email protected]

> "Dale White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:inCof.409117$084.333330@attbi_s22...
>>
>> Not sure what problem you are having, though it might be a
>> software\Driver issue. Since my girlfriend, lives off Text
>> messaging, I plug my V3 into 3 different PCs constantly and never
>> had a BSOD. (currently using MPT 3.28) I also use the software to
>> upload\download Pics, MP3\ringtones etc. I
>> don't use the Sync with outlook feature that much, and I don't use
>> the GPRS at all.
>>
>> I don't have signal issues where I live, and where I do have signal
>> issues, some does everyone elses phone.
>>
>> Maybe you just got a bum phone. Seeing that the V3 has won just
>> about all the different phone awards and Editor's picks. I don't
>> think it can be that bad.
>>
>> Then again you crazy Brits probably add stuff to your phone that
>> ruins it.
>>> P
>>
>>>
>>> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130
>>> piece of crap?
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a
> GPRS connection, there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works
> in two other phones. The phone starts to connect then just drops the
> connection. Having had a read on the net, there seems to be many
> complains about Bluetooth on this phone and GPRS. I had a similar
> problem with the last clamshell phone I owned (an awful Panasonic
> GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess. Oh well, looks like
> my air rifle will have some good target practice this weekend :-)
>
> Martin

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec 2005
> 17:16:10 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a GPRS
>>connection,
>
> First step is to verify that the phone can get GPRS connections all by
> itself.
> If it can't, then it probably needs to be configured. If it can, then you
> probably have either a tether issue of a laptop/PDA issue.
>
>>there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works in two other
>>phones.
>
> The phone also needs to be configured.
>
>>The phone starts to connect then just drops the connection.
>
> Typical symptom of a phone that hasn't been configured properly.
>
>>Having
>>had a read on the net, there seems to be many complains about Bluetooth on
>>this phone and GPRS.
>
> In fact the Bluetooth in the phone works fine, as a great many users know
> from
> experience. The usual problem is at the other end, either hardware or the
> Bluetooth drivers.
>
>>I had a similar problem with the last clamshell phone I
>>owned (an awful Panasonic GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess.
>
> There is of course no relationship between them. If there is a lesson to
> be
> learned, it's probably that you have hardware and/or software problems
> unrelated to the phone.
>
>>Oh
>>well, looks like my air rifle will have some good target practice this
>>weekend :-)
>
> I'm beginning to see why you have a problem.
>
> "It's a poor workman who blames his tools." [proverb]
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

THE PHONE IS CONFIGURED. If you can't offer any help, then say nothing.

Martin

Maybe that is where he got it in the first place and why it was offered for
sale
If was bought local, I would take it back and demand an exchange.

"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Put it on ebay.
>
> From:Martin
> [email protected]
>
>> "Dale White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:inCof.409117$084.333330@attbi_s22...
>>>
>>> Not sure what problem you are having, though it might be a
>>> software\Driver issue. Since my girlfriend, lives off Text
>>> messaging, I plug my V3 into 3 different PCs constantly and never
>>> had a BSOD. (currently using MPT 3.28) I also use the software to
>>> upload\download Pics, MP3\ringtones etc. I
>>> don't use the Sync with outlook feature that much, and I don't use
>>> the GPRS at all.
>>>
>>> I don't have signal issues where I live, and where I do have signal
>>> issues, some does everyone elses phone.
>>>
>>> Maybe you just got a bum phone. Seeing that the V3 has won just
>>> about all the different phone awards and Editor's picks. I don't
>>> think it can be that bad.
>>>
>>> Then again you crazy Brits probably add stuff to your phone that
>>> ruins it.
>>>> P
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130
>>>> piece of crap?
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a
>> GPRS connection, there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works
>> in two other phones. The phone starts to connect then just drops the
>> connection. Having had a read on the net, there seems to be many
>> complains about Bluetooth on this phone and GPRS. I had a similar
>> problem with the last clamshell phone I owned (an awful Panasonic
>> GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess. Oh well, looks like
>> my air rifle will have some good target practice this weekend :-)
>>
>> Martin
>
>

It appeared to me he was offering help. If you don't want advise, then don't
ask for it.

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec
>> 2005
>> 17:16:10 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a GPRS
>>>connection,
>>
>> First step is to verify that the phone can get GPRS connections all by
>> itself.
>> If it can't, then it probably needs to be configured. If it can, then
>> you
>> probably have either a tether issue of a laptop/PDA issue.
>>
>>>there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works in two other
>>>phones.
>>
>> The phone also needs to be configured.
>>
>>>The phone starts to connect then just drops the connection.
>>
>> Typical symptom of a phone that hasn't been configured properly.
>>
>>>Having
>>>had a read on the net, there seems to be many complains about Bluetooth
>>>on
>>>this phone and GPRS.
>>
>> In fact the Bluetooth in the phone works fine, as a great many users know
>> from
>> experience. The usual problem is at the other end, either hardware or
>> the
>> Bluetooth drivers.
>>
>>>I had a similar problem with the last clamshell phone I
>>>owned (an awful Panasonic GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess.
>>
>> There is of course no relationship between them. If there is a lesson to
>> be
>> learned, it's probably that you have hardware and/or software problems
>> unrelated to the phone.
>>
>>>Oh
>>>well, looks like my air rifle will have some good target practice this
>>>weekend :-)
>>
>> I'm beginning to see why you have a problem.
>>
>> "It's a poor workman who blames his tools." [proverb]
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
>> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
>
> THE PHONE IS CONFIGURED. If you can't offer any help, then say nothing.
>
> Martin
>
>

"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Put it on ebay.
>
> From:Martin
> [email protected]
>
>> "Dale White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:inCof.409117$084.333330@attbi_s22...
>>>
>>> Not sure what problem you are having, though it might be a
>>> software\Driver issue. Since my girlfriend, lives off Text
>>> messaging, I plug my V3 into 3 different PCs constantly and never
>>> had a BSOD. (currently using MPT 3.28) I also use the software to
>>> upload\download Pics, MP3\ringtones etc. I
>>> don't use the Sync with outlook feature that much, and I don't use
>>> the GPRS at all.
>>>
>>> I don't have signal issues where I live, and where I do have signal
>>> issues, some does everyone elses phone.
>>>
>>> Maybe you just got a bum phone. Seeing that the V3 has won just
>>> about all the different phone awards and Editor's picks. I don't
>>> think it can be that bad.
>>>
>>> Then again you crazy Brits probably add stuff to your phone that
>>> ruins it.
>>>> P
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130
>>>> piece of crap?
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well I've tried the phone on 2 laptops and two PDA's and can't get a
>> GPRS connection, there's nothing wrong with the Sim card as it works
>> in two other phones. The phone starts to connect then just drops the
>> connection. Having had a read on the net, there seems to be many
>> complains about Bluetooth on this phone and GPRS. I had a similar
>> problem with the last clamshell phone I owned (an awful Panasonic
>> GD-87). Should have learnt lesson then I guess. Oh well, looks like
>> my air rifle will have some good target practice this weekend :-)
>>
>> Martin
>
The phone should have a one year warranty with Motorola, try sending it to
them, if they can't repair it, they will send you a replacement. I sent then
my V3 that I bought off Ebay, twice, the second time they sent me a brand
new V3.

No problems since.

...
bamp

Martin whispered unto us in alt.cellular.motorola

> Anyone got any suggestions as to the best way to destroy a £130 piece of
> crap?

Well, you can give it to me.

"lobo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Maybe that is where he got it in the first place and why it was offered
> for sale
> If was bought local, I would take it back and demand an exchange.
>

That's actually what I intend to do. Having looked around I've printed off
numerious posts about problems with this phone and Bluetooth connection
issues and will take it back for a refund. I do find it amazing though that
Nokia & Sony/Ericsson can make a phone work fine with Bluetooth but Motorola
can't. Good job Motorola don't make aircraft or there would be an awful lot
of holes in the ground.

Gone back to using my old P910i a real brick of a phone but at least Sony
Ericsson know how to make Bluetooth work correctly.

Martin

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I do find it amazing though that Nokia & Sony/Ericsson can make a phone work
> fine with Bluetooth but Motorola can't.

I must have a fluke V3 then, as Bluetooth works fine with my headset,
my laptop, my desktop PC, my PDA and other peoples' BT-enabled phones.

If you post more info I'll try to help solve the problem. First things
first - have you successfully paired the phone with your other
device(s)? This will at least verify that the Bluetooth transceivers
are functioning and will make further operations easier too. :-)

Al
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