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  1. #1
    Bob L.
    Guest
    Hi:

    We have a V220 and V180 each with a problem. Cingular said they would
    ship
    2 phones and I should return the non-working phones.

    The two phones I just received have a "reconditioned" label on them. Is
    this a standard practice? The V220 I have is 1 yr old and the V180 is
    about
    6 months old.

    Can I demand new phones instead of reconditioned?

    Thanks for the advice.

    Bob


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  2. #2
    David
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    Re: Reconditioned?

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:29:21 UTC, "Bob L." <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Hi:
    >
    > We have a V220 and V180 each with a problem. Cingular said they would
    > ship
    > 2 phones and I should return the non-working phones.
    >
    > The two phones I just received have a "reconditioned" label on them. Is
    > this a standard practice? The V220 I have is 1 yr old and the V180 is
    > about
    > 6 months old.
    >
    > Can I demand new phones instead of reconditioned?
    >
    > Thanks for the advice.
    >
    > Bob


    The phones you want replaced may not be available "new" in the vendors
    stock. In that case, they are still trying to satisfy your replacement
    request with "reconditioned" phones. These are likely repaired, or
    otherwise returned items that have been checked out and made available
    as working phones. Manufacturers have to lable or otherwise notify the
    customer when such items are re-sold in this manner. They could be
    perfectly new phones or truely repaired items.

    You may have an option to demand "new" phones, but they may not
    be available. Read on.

    I've not had this done with phones, though I've had it done with
    digital cameras. In my case, a damaged camera was sent in to Kodak
    for what was likly a time consuming repair. They offered to replace
    the damaged item with the same style camera (no longer sold) at a
    certain price or replace it with the latest and greatest model for
    a bit more. As they were of the same design I took the newer model.
    If I had opted for an identical item that was not a repair of the
    same unit, my repaired camera could later be resold as reconditioned.
    This is often preferable as the turn-around time for the "repair"
    is much better. If parts of my returned camera were used to repair
    or create other cameras they would be labeled as reconditioned.

    This is just like a car sale and repair. A "new" item has just
    never been sold, but could have been used as a demo or just unsold
    for a long period. If however the car is bought, not taken off
    the lot, and the buyer backs out for some reason, the car becomes
    a reconditioned item. Car dealerships have many colorful terms
    to describe shades of grey, but you get the idea. You might be
    able to ask the phone provider about the history of the
    reconditioned items, if that matters to you.

    David




  3. #3
    Bob L.
    Guest

    Re: Reconditioned?

    Thank you both.

    Bob


    <Victor> wrote in message
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    > On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:29:21 GMT, "Bob L." <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Hi:
    > >
    > >We have a V220 and V180 each with a problem. Cingular said they would
    > >ship
    > >2 phones and I should return the non-working phones.
    > >
    > >The two phones I just received have a "reconditioned" label on them.

    Is
    > >this a standard practice? The V220 I have is 1 yr old and the V180 is
    > >about
    > >6 months old.
    > >
    > >Can I demand new phones instead of reconditioned?
    > >
    > >Thanks for the advice.
    > >
    > >Bob

    >
    > It's basic procedure for Cingular and I suspect for most carriers. I

    bought
    > a new phone from Cingular and had problems the second day. I called and
    > they replaced it...... with a reconditioned model. I decided to keep the
    > original instead, as better to deal with the devil you know then one you
    > don't know and returned the reconditioned phone. Not that it matters as

    I
    > now have V3 curtesy of an early Xmas gift from a friend!
    > >
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