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  1. #1
    Randall Ainsworth
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Reason why I bought it is that I'm not impressed with available phones
    > today. Most current phones try to integrate multiple features such as
    > camera's, mp3 players etc. but do not succeed and you end up with a
    > phone that can do a lot, but not well. I decided that if I want to
    > take a picture I will use my 7.0 megapixel digital camera and if I
    > want to make a phone call I will use my mobile phone. I don't need a
    > camera in my phone to 'take pictures on the go'. As for mp3 players,
    > most phones have so limited memory, I will use my ultra slim i-pod
    > nano if I want to travel with music.


    I guess you won't be standing in line for an iPhone next week.



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  2. #2
    XS11E
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > <[email protected]> wrote:


    > I guess you won't be standing in line for an iPhone next week.


    I'll be joining him not standing in line, the iPhone seems as
    completely useless to me as an iPod. As always, YMMV



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  3. #3
    Ric
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    >
    > Just bought a second hand motorola StarTAC from www.retrobrick.com.
    > Phone works perfectly, and through another website I bought a brand
    > new battery, so I have decent standby - and talk time.
    >
    > Reason why I bought it is that I'm not impressed with available phones
    > today. Most current phones try to integrate multiple features such as
    > camera's, mp3 players etc. but do not succeed and you end up with a
    > phone that can do a lot, but not well. I decided that if I want to
    > take a picture I will use my 7.0 megapixel digital camera and if I
    > want to make a phone call I will use my mobile phone. I don't need a
    > camera in my phone to 'take pictures on the go'. As for mp3 players,
    > most phones have so limited memory, I will use my ultra slim i-pod
    > nano if I want to travel with music.
    >
    > I only wish Motorola would revive the StarTAC in its original design,
    > but with modern technology excluding any unnecessary features such as
    > a camera and mp3 player, ok maybe add e-mail capability and a
    > calendar. This would be the ultimate business phone.
    >
    > Rgrds,
    >
    > Wayne


    I also liked the rugged reliability of the old StarTac phones. Although I've
    gotten over the novelty of listening to music on my cell phone, memory is
    limited only by the size of the card you install and they're dirt cheap
    compared to only a couple of years ago. I don't get why iPods are still
    selling when even the cheaper phones do the same thing. I also enjoy digital
    photography, but I only carry my camera when I know I'm going to need it. I
    wouldn't rely on my cell phone camera to take serious photos. However,
    having a camera, even with the most modest capabilities built into a phone
    is invaluable when you are in a situation where you wish you didn't leave
    the real camera home or if you have to capture an image for the purposes of
    legal documentation. Each to his own, I guess, but I'm not carrying three
    gadgets around with me when one does the job. In addition to the functions
    above my phone also handles e-mail, text messaging, GPS directions and a
    myriad of other chores. I can't imagine carrying a dedicated device for each
    thing I want my phone to do. That little phone clipped to my belt would turn
    into a suitcase full of hardware.
    >






  4. #4
    XS11E
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, XS11E
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I'll be joining him not standing in line, the iPhone seems as
    >> completely useless to me as an iPod. As always, YMMV

    >
    > I wouldn't say useless...it's extremely cool technology...just
    > tied to a crappy carrier.


    I said useless to me because the price includes a HUGE amount of stuff
    I don't want and very little that I do want. The iPhone has already
    been reported as a very mediocre phone and that's ALL I want, no tunes,
    no camera, no web, no texting. I want to call people and have people
    call me and nothing else so why would I pay hundreds for features I'll
    not use? It's useless to me....

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  5. #5
    DevilsPGD
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    In message <[email protected]> XS11E
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I said useless to me because the price includes a HUGE amount of stuff
    >I don't want and very little that I do want. The iPhone has already
    >been reported as a very mediocre phone and that's ALL I want, no tunes,
    >no camera, no web, no texting. I want to call people and have people
    >call me and nothing else so why would I pay hundreds for features I'll
    >not use? It's useless to me....


    So don't buy it. For those of us carrying several different toys most
    of the time anyway, combination devices are great.

    You wouldn't catch me with a fruity phone mind you, but still...

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  6. #6
    BruceR
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera



    XS11E wrote:
    > Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> In article <[email protected]>, XS11E
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'll be joining him not standing in line, the iPhone seems as
    >>> completely useless to me as an iPod. As always, YMMV

    >>
    >> I wouldn't say useless...it's extremely cool technology...just
    >> tied to a crappy carrier.

    >
    > I said useless to me because the price includes a HUGE amount of stuff
    > I don't want and very little that I do want. The iPhone has already
    > been reported as a very mediocre phone and that's ALL I want, no
    > tunes, no camera, no web, no texting. I want to call people and have
    > people call me and nothing else so why would I pay hundreds for
    > features I'll not use? It's useless to me....


    But why would you pay MORE for a ten year old phone when you could get a
    v3 - which has little more than what you want - for less money. Even
    though you don't care for the camera, you did mention you'd like email
    capability which the StarTAC lacks and the radio quality in terms of
    reception and digital codecs is superior to the 10 year old StarTAC.
    That being said, I have some StarTAC chargers and batteries lying around
    that you are welcome to for the cost of postage.





  7. #7
    Steve
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    In article <[email protected]>,
    XS11E <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>, XS11E
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I'll be joining him not standing in line, the iPhone seems as
    > >> completely useless to me as an iPod. As always, YMMV

    > >
    > > I wouldn't say useless...it's extremely cool technology...just
    > > tied to a crappy carrier.

    >
    > I said useless to me because the price includes a HUGE amount of stuff
    > I don't want and very little that I do want. The iPhone has already
    > been reported as a very mediocre phone and that's ALL I want, no tunes,
    > no camera, no web, no texting.


    Stupid.

    The iphone is not out yet. How does anyone know it's a mediocre phone?
    Who reported it was mediocre, and how would that person know, if there
    was a problem with reception, that the problem wasn't with the other
    phone it was connected to, or that the network in that particular area
    sucked? Sure, blame the hardware that is not even released yet.

    Good or bad, we understand you don't need it or want it, and that's
    certainly fine, but don't be stupid enough to come on the net and say
    that something is mediocre when it hasn't even come out yet.



  8. #8
    Randall Ainsworth
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    In article <[email protected]>, XS11E
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I said useless to me because the price includes a HUGE amount of stuff
    > I don't want and very little that I do want. The iPhone has already
    > been reported as a very mediocre phone and that's ALL I want, no tunes,
    > no camera, no web, no texting. I want to call people and have people
    > call me and nothing else so why would I pay hundreds for features I'll
    > not use? It's useless to me....


    I haven't seen any reviews saying it's a good phone or a bad one...it's
    not out there yet.



  9. #9
    Randall Ainsworth
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The iphone is not out yet. How does anyone know it's a mediocre phone?
    > Who reported it was mediocre, and how would that person know, if there
    > was a problem with reception, that the problem wasn't with the other
    > phone it was connected to, or that the network in that particular area
    > sucked? Sure, blame the hardware that is not even released yet.


    If the sound quality is bad, I'd blame AT&T. They're a crappy carrier.



  10. #10
    XS11E
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    "BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > But why would you pay MORE for a ten year old phone


    I wouldn't. You're confusing me with the OP in this thread.

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  11. #11
    XS11E
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > XS11E <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I said useless to me because the price includes a HUGE amount of
    >> stuff I don't want and very little that I do want. The iPhone
    >> has already been reported as a very mediocre phone and that's ALL
    >> I want, no tunes, no camera, no web, no texting. I want to call
    >> people and have people call me and nothing else so why would I
    >> pay hundreds for features I'll not use? It's useless to me....

    >
    > I haven't seen any reviews saying it's a good phone or a bad
    > one...it's not out there yet.


    Apparently it is, I read a report elsewhere. Google might find it for
    you.


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  12. #12
    XS11E
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    Pegleg <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:00:43 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Apparently it is, I read a report elsewhere. Google might find it
    >>for you.

    >
    > Will not be available until 29 June.


    Apparently it's available to testers as there are reports on it
    already.



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  13. #13
    Steve
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    In article <[email protected]>,
    XS11E <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Pegleg <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:00:43 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >>Apparently it is, I read a report elsewhere. Google might find it
    > >>for you.

    > >
    > > Will not be available until 29 June.

    >
    > Apparently it's available to testers as there are reports on it
    > already.


    That's like saying that unreleased beta software, that is buggy will
    eventually be released like that. I'll say that the iphone tested last
    month is better than the iphone tested the month before that, and until
    it is released on June 29th, there is no accurate report of how it will
    be on the 29th.
    Just a few days ago, Apple replaced the plastic with optical quality
    glass, and increased the battery life from 5 to 8 hours.
    Those are just some improvements we've been told about. We don't know
    what kind of tweaks they've made to make the phone better, but you've
    already made up your mind to go by the older reviews.



  14. #14
    XS11E
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    > but you've already made up your mind to go by the older reviews.


    No, I made up my mind as soon as I saw the announcement. It's not a
    phone I'd have any use for, any phone that does anything other than
    make or receive calls is a phone I don't need/want.

    Please read posts before replying next time, OK?

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  15. #15
    Steve
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    Re: Old Motorola StarTAC - phones are for calling people, for taking pictures use a digital camera

    In article <[email protected]>,
    XS11E <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > but you've already made up your mind to go by the older reviews.

    >
    > No, I made up my mind as soon as I saw the announcement. It's not a
    > phone I'd have any use for, any phone that does anything other than
    > make or receive calls is a phone I don't need/want.
    >
    > Please read posts before replying next time, OK?


    Now you're just being a jerk. You know what you said. I responded to
    you saying that you read reviews that the iphone as a phone was not so
    good. I responded by saying the phone is not out yet. You responded
    that you read reviews from people who already tested the phone. I
    responded by saying they are reviewing a beta and not a finished
    product, but you made up your mind already that the phone sucks.

    You took my above statement "but you've already made up your mind to go
    by the older reviews" out of context. That was in response to you
    saying the phone had terrible performance based on the older reviews you
    read.

    You don't want the phone, don't get it. It's OK for you not to want it.
    It clearly is not for everybody, but I'm attacking your statements that
    the phones performance sucks.

    How about you read my posts, and yours, before replying next time, OK?



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