Charging Cell Phone from Computer

[email protected] (Soruk) wrote:

> Depending on the OP's particular phone, you might be able to
> switch the handset into memory card mode for the USB (The L7 can
> do this). With this, Windows will see the phone as a generic mass
> storage device like a memory stick so you won't need any special
> drivers at all, unless you're using Windows 98.

That's great advice IF the OP isn't using anything other than charging
the phone but I think switching will stop MPT, BitPim, etc from working
until the phone is switched back.

Just personal opinion here: Since the current USB drivers are a free
download from Motorola with free registration (you need only provide an
email addy and user name) and since non-current ones are free from
multiple places it makes little sense not to download and install them.
If you don't run any phone software that needs the drivers you may
decide to do so in the future so there's really no reason not to
install the drivers that I can see.


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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:33:48 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>[email protected] (Soruk) wrote:
>
>> Depending on the OP's particular phone, you might be able to
>> switch the handset into memory card mode for the USB (The L7 can
>> do this). With this, Windows will see the phone as a generic mass
>> storage device like a memory stick so you won't need any special
>> drivers at all, unless you're using Windows 98.
>
>That's great advice IF the OP isn't using anything other than charging
>the phone but I think switching will stop MPT, BitPim, etc from working
>until the phone is switched back.
>
>Just personal opinion here: Since the current USB drivers are a free
>download from Motorola with free registration (you need only provide an
>email addy and user name) and since non-current ones are free from
>multiple places it makes little sense not to download and install them.
>If you don't run any phone software that needs the drivers you may
>decide to do so in the future so there's really no reason not to
>install the drivers that I can see.

A slightly older USB Driver is downloadable with no registration from
<http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/nss/driversNplugins.asp>

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[email protected] (XS11E) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> If you don't run any phone software that needs the drivers you may
> decide to do so in the future so there's really no reason not to
> install the drivers that I can see.

Unfortunately, this still means that you can't steal a charge from any
random USB port you can find.

Those cute cigarette-lighter plugs with powered USB sockets in them
for power and charging applications are out of the question too.

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On 06 Feb 2008 20:23:54 GMT, Bert Hyman <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>[email protected] (XS11E) wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> If you don't run any phone software that needs the drivers you may
>> decide to do so in the future so there's really no reason not to
>> install the drivers that I can see.
>
>Unfortunately, this still means that you can't steal a charge from any
>random USB port you can find.
>
>Those cute cigarette-lighter plugs with powered USB sockets in them
>for power and charging applications are out of the question too.

You should be able to in both cases if you have the correct cable, which
enables USB charging without a special port driver. See
<http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-A-N/razrv3_charger_pinout.shtml>

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In article <[email protected]>, Dick
<[email protected]> wrote:

> You could always go back to DOS or APPLESOFT and avoid all those nasty
> graphical user interfaces. Think how much fun it is to program in
> basic.

DOS I could handle.

But Windows sucks...OS X doesn't.

In article <[email protected]>, Todd H. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Windows must be also partly to blame as well because when I plug my
> Krzr or Razr into my mac iBook dual USB.... it starts charging. No
> driver required. I got the tip from another Mac user who wondered
> what the problem was when I reported my troubles charging on a Windows
> PC.

Imagine that...on a Mac, it just works.

Mr. Strat schrieb:
> In article <[email protected]>, Todd H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Windows must be also partly to blame as well because when I plug my
>> Krzr or Razr into my mac iBook dual USB.... it starts charging. No
>> driver required. I got the tip from another Mac user who wondered
>> what the problem was when I reported my troubles charging on a Windows
>> PC.
>
> Imagine that...on a Mac, it just works.

Same for Linux btw.

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:21:02 +0000, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:39:15 GMT, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>A slightly older USB Driver is downloadable with no registration from
>><http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/nss/driversNplugins.asp>
>
>Why bother? WinMe and WinXP both see the phone as a USB drive without
>benefit of added special drivers, assuming you configure the phone
>port as USB vs as Modem/Com. I can't see any more of the phone's
>innards in USB drive mode with a Motorola USB driver than I can with
>what WinMe and XP provide natively.

Because with a non-Moto driver, even if charging works, you can't access
it properly with software. There's really no good reason not to install
the Moto driver.

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:06:38 +0000, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:28:23 -0800, "Mr. Strat"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Todd H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Motorola is very annoying this way. On some Windows machines, a driver
>>> is actually required to do the charging. John Navas has posted a link
>>> to the driver though.
>>>
>>> On Macs, it just seems to work
>>
>>Yet another reason I try to avoid any version of Windows.
>
>It has nothing to do with Windows per se; it has to do with the USB
>specification. If another OS will let the phone charge from a USB
>port without first checking to see if it requires over 100 milliamps
>then that OS has improperly implemented the USB specification.
>
>I sympathize to an extent with those who want their computers to
>operate the way they want them to operate, but if you want a battery
>charger; buy a battery charger. Without the safeguards built into the
>USB spec you could destroy a USB port. That's never good, and it's
>especially bad if the port is on your motherboard.

Next time please read the entire thread before jumping in.

The real problem here is Moto's failure to get the driver into the
Windows driver package and update process. If it had done so, there
would be no issue whatsoever.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:21:02 +0000, Jim Higgins
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:39:15 GMT, John Navas
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>A slightly older USB Driver is downloadable with no registration
>>>from
>>><http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/nss/driversNplugins.asp>
>>
>>Why bother? WinMe and WinXP both see the phone as a USB drive
>>without benefit of added special drivers, assuming you configure
>>the phone port as USB vs as Modem/Com. I can't see any more of
>>the phone's innards in USB drive mode with a Motorola USB driver
>>than I can with what WinMe and XP provide natively.
>
> Because with a non-Moto driver, even if charging works, you can't
> access it properly with software. There's really no good reason
> not to install the Moto driver.

Agreed, the exception would be using someone else's computer but not
for me, if I'm travelling I carry the charger with me in my suitcase
and the car charger lives in the glove box.

If the computer is your own the Moto drivers might as well be
installed.




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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:16:17 +0000, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:27:56 GMT, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:06:38 +0000, Jim Higgins
>><[email protected]> wrote in
>><[email protected]>:
>>
>>>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:28:23 -0800, "Mr. Strat"
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Todd H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Motorola is very annoying this way. On some Windows machines, a driver
>>>>> is actually required to do the charging. John Navas has posted a link
>>>>> to the driver though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Macs, it just seems to work
>>>>
>>>>Yet another reason I try to avoid any version of Windows.
>>>
>>>It has nothing to do with Windows per se; it has to do with the USB
>>>specification. If another OS will let the phone charge from a USB
>>>port without first checking to see if it requires over 100 milliamps
>>>then that OS has improperly implemented the USB specification.
>>>
>>>I sympathize to an extent with those who want their computers to
>>>operate the way they want them to operate, but if you want a battery
>>>charger; buy a battery charger. Without the safeguards built into the
>>>USB spec you could destroy a USB port. That's never good, and it's
>>>especially bad if the port is on your motherboard.
>>
>>Next time please read the entire thread before jumping in.
>>
>>The real problem here is Moto's failure to get the driver into the
>>Windows driver package and update process. If it had done so, there
>>would be no issue whatsoever.
>
>So, do you think this is a reason to avoid any version of Windows?

No.

>That's quite obviously what I was responding to. threads evolve.
>Please try to keep up.

Your discourtesy is uncalled for, and your suggestion that the USB spec
somehow protects USB ports from damage is just plain silly. What the
power spec does is ensure fair power allocation among USB devices,
nothing more, nothing less, and that's not an issue with a single device
on a USB port.

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In article <[email protected]>, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote:

> So, do you think this is a reason to avoid any version of Windows?
> That's quite obviously what I was responding to. threads evolve.

No, there are many reasons I avoid Windows for personal use:

Ugly

Pitiful security

Prone to lockups

And that's just three

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:40:15 +0000, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:51:25 GMT, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:

>>Your discourtesy is uncalled for,...
>
>It was no less called for than your own "Next time please read the
>entire thread before jumping in."

What I wrote was a polite request. It was pretty clear that you hadn't
read the entire thread.

>If you can't take it; don't dish it
>out. This is, after all, Usenet, not a tea social.

That's no excuse for discourtesy.

>Act as you wish
>to be treated or else brace yourself for a response in kind,
>preferably sans whining when it happens.

That's pretty childish.

Are you this rude face-to-face, or only in cyberspace?

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On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:28:33 +0000, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:33:58 GMT, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:

>>Are you this rude face-to-face, or only in cyberspace?
>
>Are you this whiney face-to-face or only on Usenet?

I thought so, but thanks for the confirmation.

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In article <[email protected]>, Jim Higgins
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you this whiney face-to-face or only on Usenet?

Well, he's a dick in the newsgroups. I'd like to meet him in person so
that I could tell him he's a retard to his face.