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  1. #166
    Mark Filla
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    And that is why the Military wants to control the technologies that gets
    deployed in IRAQ. They actually want CDMA (instead of GSM) over there
    because it's easy for them to intercept (don't let them fool you) and
    allows them to deploy this technology to disrupt the communications over
    there, or anywhere, if required.

    Now would they ever deploy this in the US, probably not, or at least I
    hope they never have to.
    --
    Mark KS4VT


    Nick B. <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:16:59 -0000, [email protected] (Mark Filla)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >If anyone is considering utilization of this device in the US, here is
    > >an example of a State Statute (this is Florida's) that you would be
    > >prosecuted with if you interfered with a LE radio system:

    >
    > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/32361.html
    >
    > Ah, lets prosecute the military then
    >
    > 73's
    > --
    > To reply by email please include "usenet" in the subject


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



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  2. #167
    Mark Filla
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    And that is why the Military wants to control the technologies that gets
    deployed in IRAQ. They actually want CDMA (instead of GSM) over there
    because it's easy for them to intercept (don't let them fool you) and
    allows them to deploy this technology to disrupt the communications over
    there, or anywhere, if required.

    Now would they ever deploy this in the US, probably not, or at least I
    hope they never have to.
    --
    Mark KS4VT


    Nick B. <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:16:59 -0000, [email protected] (Mark Filla)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >If anyone is considering utilization of this device in the US, here is
    > >an example of a State Statute (this is Florida's) that you would be
    > >prosecuted with if you interfered with a LE radio system:

    >
    > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/32361.html
    >
    > Ah, lets prosecute the military then
    >
    > 73's
    > --
    > To reply by email please include "usenet" in the subject


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  3. #168
    Marian Rosenberg
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Dave wrote:
    > John Navas <[email protected]> writes
    >
    >> As I wrote, even where cellular coverage is very good, there will
    >> still be many places (e.g., in buildings) where pagers work and
    >> cellular [SMS included] doesn't.

    >
    >
    > That may be true in your country, it won't necessarily be the case
    > elsewhere.



    I'm from the Us but I started using mobile phones while living in Asia.

    I had totally forgotten, until visiting the US this summer, that there
    are places where you do not have full signal. In my rural backwater
    part of China I often have signal underground.

    -M




  4. #169
    Marian Rosenberg
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Dave wrote:
    > John Navas <[email protected]> writes
    >
    >> As I wrote, even where cellular coverage is very good, there will
    >> still be many places (e.g., in buildings) where pagers work and
    >> cellular [SMS included] doesn't.

    >
    >
    > That may be true in your country, it won't necessarily be the case
    > elsewhere.



    I'm from the Us but I started using mobile phones while living in Asia.

    I had totally forgotten, until visiting the US this summer, that there
    are places where you do not have full signal. In my rural backwater
    part of China I often have signal underground.

    -M




  5. #170
    just Me
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Marian Rosenberg <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Dave wrote:
    >> John Navas <[email protected]> writes
    >>
    >>> As I wrote, even where cellular coverage is very good, there will
    >>> still be many places (e.g., in buildings) where pagers work and
    >>> cellular [SMS included] doesn't.

    >>
    >>
    >> That may be true in your country, it won't necessarily be the case
    >> elsewhere.

    >
    >
    > I'm from the Us but I started using mobile phones while living in Asia.
    >
    > I had totally forgotten, until visiting the US this summer, that there
    > are places where you do not have full signal. In my rural backwater
    > part of China I often have signal underground.
    >
    > -M
    >
    >


    I know what you mean I'm in Canada and and there is many places with no
    signal in any cell company be it GSM CDMA or TDMA I go to a small and not
    so rich country in Europe and I get signal out in the mountains,a 2 hour
    drive away from any city .



  6. #171
    just Me
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Marian Rosenberg <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Dave wrote:
    >> John Navas <[email protected]> writes
    >>
    >>> As I wrote, even where cellular coverage is very good, there will
    >>> still be many places (e.g., in buildings) where pagers work and
    >>> cellular [SMS included] doesn't.

    >>
    >>
    >> That may be true in your country, it won't necessarily be the case
    >> elsewhere.

    >
    >
    > I'm from the Us but I started using mobile phones while living in Asia.
    >
    > I had totally forgotten, until visiting the US this summer, that there
    > are places where you do not have full signal. In my rural backwater
    > part of China I often have signal underground.
    >
    > -M
    >
    >


    I know what you mean I'm in Canada and and there is many places with no
    signal in any cell company be it GSM CDMA or TDMA I go to a small and not
    so rich country in Europe and I get signal out in the mountains,a 2 hour
    drive away from any city .



  7. #172
    jer
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    MArk Filla wrote:
    > Quote from the FCC website:

    [....]

    > That is more important that worrying about someone's rudeness in a movie
    > or out to eat IMHO.
    >


    In your opinion.... and we all know how much an opinion is worth.


    --
    jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    what we know." -- Richard Wilbur




  8. #173
    Gunnr
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    He was Scottish, however it wouldn't work until he gave up the ideals of his
    roots and stopped trying to reverse the charges.





  9. #174
    Gunnr
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Only because you never cover your jingoistic noses.:-)





  10. #175
    Mark Filla
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    When someone is having a heartattack or on officer is attempting to
    arrest a felon it is still more important for them to have reliable
    communications and I'm sure you will have difficult time trying to mount
    a credible defense otherwise.
    --
    Mark KS4VT


    jer <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > MArk Filla wrote:
    > > Quote from the FCC website:

    > [....]
    >
    > > That is more important that worrying about someone's rudeness in a movie
    > > or out to eat IMHO.
    > >

    >
    > In your opinion.... and we all know how much an opinion is worth.
    >
    >
    > --
    > jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    > "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    > what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  11. #176
    jer
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Mark Filla wrote:

    > When someone is having a heartattack or on officer is attempting to
    > arrest a felon it is still more important for them to have reliable
    > communications and I'm sure you will have difficult time trying to mount
    > a credible defense otherwise.



    big flash, Buckwheat.... public safety officers don't use cellular -
    they have their own communications network with their own radios. 10-4?


    --
    jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    what we know." -- Richard Wilbur




  12. #177
    Mark Filla
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    No kidding but you don't happen to be up on my previous post that states
    that Public Safety shares the same 800 spectrum. The 10 tower site
    public safety simulcast system that I manage interleaves with NEXTEL on
    6 of the 28 channels and the other 22 are directly below the 800
    cellular band at 866 and 867 MHz. Case in point, if a cellular blocker
    is deployed in the 800 band, you can and will interfere with any
    existing public safety systems in the 800 MHz spectrum in that same
    area.

    Have you ever seen the flashing antenna boxes at some of the computer
    shows? If you have, don't try using your cellphone or NEXTEL around it
    because its generating RF to light the antennas and is very similiar to
    the cellular blockers. The FCC has outlawed these boxes yet the message
    hasn't gotten out to all of the owners. I carry a copy of the recent
    ruling with me and if I do find one I have a police officer confiscate
    the box on the spot as the ruling allows them to do this.

    You can't mess with the master. :-P

    --
    Mark KS4VT


    jer <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Mark Filla wrote:
    >
    > > When someone is having a heartattack or on officer is attempting to
    > > arrest a felon it is still more important for them to have reliable
    > > communications and I'm sure you will have difficult time trying to mount
    > > a credible defense otherwise.

    >
    >
    > big flash, Buckwheat.... public safety officers don't use cellular -
    > they have their own communications network with their own radios. 10-4?
    >
    >
    > --
    > jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    > "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    > what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  13. #178
    jer
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Mark Filla wrote:

    [....]

    > You can't mess with the master. :-P
    >



    I can mess with whatever master I please, since I am the master of my
    domain. If your cell phone interferes with my private use of my
    private space, I'll ask you once to remedy the situation about ten
    seconds before I find my own remedy. (Hint: Most don't like it) And
    if a public safety responce is necessary, we can summon them with any
    one of several landlines.

    Or I can activate my cell blocker and dispatch stupid ringtones and
    basless blather to the netherworld permanently.

    The choice is yours. :-P

    --
    jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    what we know." -- Richard Wilbur




  14. #179
    Mark Filla
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    It's not a matter of you calling for public safety, its public safety
    requesting back-up or assistance from another agency. An officer isn't
    going to go to a land-line requesting back-up. That isn't the way that
    we do business.

    As far as my cell phone invading your private space, that won't happen.
    I happen to be very courteous with my phone, keep it on vibrate almost
    all the time, and 9 times out of 10 will call the caller back at a later
    time and the other one time will step away or go outside. Its up to
    you, me, and other technology savvy individuals to educate the rude,
    insensitive, or uneducated cell phone users.--
    Mark KS4VT


    jer <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Mark Filla wrote:
    >
    > [....]
    >
    > > You can't mess with the master. :-P
    > >

    >
    >
    > I can mess with whatever master I please, since I am the master of my
    > domain. If your cell phone interferes with my private use of my
    > private space, I'll ask you once to remedy the situation about ten
    > seconds before I find my own remedy. (Hint: Most don't like it) And
    > if a public safety responce is necessary, we can summon them with any
    > one of several landlines.
    >
    > Or I can activate my cell blocker and dispatch stupid ringtones and
    > basless blather to the netherworld permanently.
    >
    > The choice is yours. :-P
    >
    > --
    > jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    > "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    > what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  15. #180
    jer
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone Blocker

    Mark Filla wrote:
    > It's not a matter of you calling for public safety, its public safety
    > requesting back-up or assistance from another agency. An officer isn't
    > going to go to a land-line requesting back-up. That isn't the way that
    > we do business.


    Maybe they ought to reconsider the way they do business. I won't
    presume to tell anyone how to conduct their business, but I may tell
    them how I intend to conduct my business - maybe not - it depends on
    how I feel at the moment. Personally, I don't care if anyone gets
    their business done, and they're perfectly welcome to feel the same
    way about me. Public safety people have their priorities, I have
    mine. Clearly, we're not together on this, and I'm not posting this
    to mislead anyone into thinking I actually care about those
    differences, because I don't.


    > As far as my cell phone invading your private space, that won't happen.
    > I happen to be very courteous with my phone, keep it on vibrate almost
    > all the time, and 9 times out of 10 will call the caller back at a later
    > time and the other one time will step away or go outside. Its up to
    > you, me, and other technology savvy individuals to educate the rude,
    > insensitive, or uneducated cell phone users.--
    > Mark KS4VT



    In that case, you're right, you won't be getting singled out for being
    rude. However, I don't believe it's my lot in life to educate anyone
    about anything, they'll have to deal with their education on their own
    terms. Some folks seem hell bent to learn some things the hard way,
    but they all learn eventually. I've drawn my line in the sand, and
    I'm certain some are foolish enough to step across it thinking nobody
    cares. Trust me, nothing could be further from the truth.


    --
    jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    what we know." -- Richard Wilbur




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