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  1. #31
    John Klug
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    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    www.savecell.com (Consumer Cellular) used to activate on Verizon for
    about $18/month with 30 minutes/month on Verizon. If you don't have
    Analog Verizon where you are, the 30 minutes are worthless, and it is
    about 60 cents/minute roaming, and about 30cents/minute long distance.

    From the home area (Verizon), it is 29 cents per minute overage, plus
    15 cents per minute long distance. Incoming long distance when not
    roaming is 9 cents per minute. There is no voicemail.

    I switched when Dobson got to be much better coverage than Verizon.
    Also, I got a DA4000 3W booster, and with TDMA on a Nokia 6160, the
    coverage was much better than Verizon with my bag phone, and the same
    coverage as a 3W bag phone on Dobson.



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  2. #32
    Jud Hardcastle
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    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > > Huh? I've had an old Motorola bag phone with no CID on a digital TDMA
    > > plan for years and it's never failed to ring (except for the time the
    > > analog card at the cell site near my boat went down and they kept
    > > "loosing" my problem ticket).

    >
    > Then your account doesn't have CID active on it. I only pointed out
    > the "warning" because all modern phonges are CID-capable so many CSRs
    > don't bother to remove the CID from an account if you swap ESNs to an
    > older phone.
    >
    > Have your carrier add CID to your account and see what happens! ;-)
    > (Unless, of course, your Motorola is "smart" enough to ignore CID, but
    > if it was new enough to deal with CID, it'd be new enough to hdave the
    > feature.)
    >


    Nope. The account *DOES* have CID active. There are two phones on the
    account--one digital (main#) and one analog only (family#). The digital
    gets CID--the analog doesn't. So either that feature is managed at the
    phone level in the account (most likely) or the old Motorola bag phone
    ignores it. In any case apparently YMMV.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



  3. #33
    Jud Hardcastle
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    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > > Huh? I've had an old Motorola bag phone with no CID on a digital TDMA
    > > plan for years and it's never failed to ring (except for the time the
    > > analog card at the cell site near my boat went down and they kept
    > > "loosing" my problem ticket).

    >
    > Then your account doesn't have CID active on it. I only pointed out
    > the "warning" because all modern phonges are CID-capable so many CSRs
    > don't bother to remove the CID from an account if you swap ESNs to an
    > older phone.
    >
    > Have your carrier add CID to your account and see what happens! ;-)
    > (Unless, of course, your Motorola is "smart" enough to ignore CID, but
    > if it was new enough to deal with CID, it'd be new enough to hdave the
    > feature.)
    >


    Nope. The account *DOES* have CID active. There are two phones on the
    account--one digital (main#) and one analog only (family#). The digital
    gets CID--the analog doesn't. So either that feature is managed at the
    phone level in the account (most likely) or the old Motorola bag phone
    ignores it. In any case apparently YMMV.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



  4. #34
    Group Special Mobile
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

    >I've got an old Motorola 2744 bag phone I'm trying to use. I've googled
    >posts for daze and read 'em all. (Gotta love that Larry). Yes, I downloaded
    >the bible as well. So far, I can make collect, calling card and 911 calls.
    >
    >Now that I want to attempt to utilize this relic, the schmucks in Southern
    >California don't want to activate anything other then GSM. The Cingular rep
    >said new prepaid activation was GSM only. I've got TDMA with ATTWS and it's
    >pretty good (even in Death Valley). But I need this bag phone activated for
    >even more remote usage. Maybe some day I'll investigate satelite phones
    >but...Does anyone know of any way to do an analog activation on prepay?
    >Especially in the Cal-Nev region.


    If you'd done a little more research before you whined that cingular
    is being mean to you you'd see that cingular is a GSM only carrier in
    California. If you were using TDMA or AMPS you'd be roaming on ATTWS
    and that would cost cingular $$. Why do you think they'd want to make
    you constantly roam on a competitor's system? Even in areas where
    they are TDMA/AMPS they will not activate an AMPS only phone. Why are
    you being such a whiner?

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  5. #35

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    [email protected]
    That's all you need to know. I should get GSM right?!? LMFAO



  6. #36

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    [email protected]
    That's all you need to know. I should get GSM right?!? LMFAO



  7. #37
    plane
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > >I've got an old Motorola 2744 bag phone I'm trying to use. I've googled
    > >posts for daze and read 'em all. (Gotta love that Larry). Yes, I downloaded
    > >the bible as well. So far, I can make collect, calling card and 911 calls.
    > >
    > >Now that I want to attempt to utilize this relic, the schmucks in Southern
    > >California don't want to activate anything other then GSM. The Cingular rep
    > >said new prepaid activation was GSM only. I've got TDMA with ATTWS and it's
    > >pretty good (even in Death Valley). But I need this bag phone activated for
    > >even more remote usage. Maybe some day I'll investigate satelite phones
    > >but...Does anyone know of any way to do an analog activation on prepay?
    > >Especially in the Cal-Nev region.

    >
    > Won't happen. They hate AMPS because it's hi-fi FM system reduces
    > revenue per channel.
    >
    > Keep the phone, though, and use its cigarette lighter power plug for
    > free e frmergency phone service where your little toyphone won't work.
    > You can still call 911 for free....from places the other phone will
    > never connect.
    >
    > One of the ploys that have been successfully used is to register a
    > digital phone on a digital plan. Program your phone number into the
    > AMPS monster beforehand. Then, when you find yourself in a DEAD ZONE,
    > call 611 from the AMPS phone and say that the reason you are calling
    > is because the AMPS phone works and the crapphone doesn't and you just
    > GOTTA have a working phone. Be very nice, contrite and beg the TSR to
    > do an ESN swap to the AMPS phone so you'll have service until you get
    > back to digital country. Drop a lot of calls on digital before you do
    > it so they can see it on your call history report in the last few
    > minutes. (Tin foil around the antenna on the crapphone is a great way
    > to cause dropped calls..(c.
    >
    > Fearing your churning, they'll turn on the AMPS phone to make you
    > happy and keep your money rollin' in. All you do, if successful, is
    > to forget to call back on the crapphone to switch it
    > back.....(shrug)....
    >
    > It has worked many times.......(c;.....no matter what the company
    > clones on here are going to tell you......and you'll have a phone that
    > works in many more places than the crapphones will.
    >
    >
    >
    > Larry W4CSC
    >
    > "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


    I understand that many more conversations can take place, on a cdma
    phone, but does cdma and analong use exactly the same group of freqs (
    on the same tower say) reason, I ask, and I have both an old analog
    and a cdma verizon--in most areas the cdma is my primary choice,but I
    am in a hilly, rural area, with only 2 really local towers, but one of
    them is cdma only, but the other has ananlog and cdma, occassionally
    cdma will be off the air, and then then little cdma phone switches to
    analog, so there must be two different groups of similar freqs ( or
    more ) on each tower---if this is true, then at any one time, there
    probably would be unused analog freqs available, and thus not
    generating revenue at all--would it be more accurate then, to say that
    a cdma freq generates more revenue per channel groupe than the analog
    group would, but a combination of the two would still do better than
    either one by itself?

    analog to some extent, then is a necessary nusiance???



  8. #38
    plane
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:47:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > >I've got an old Motorola 2744 bag phone I'm trying to use. I've googled
    > >posts for daze and read 'em all. (Gotta love that Larry). Yes, I downloaded
    > >the bible as well. So far, I can make collect, calling card and 911 calls.
    > >
    > >Now that I want to attempt to utilize this relic, the schmucks in Southern
    > >California don't want to activate anything other then GSM. The Cingular rep
    > >said new prepaid activation was GSM only. I've got TDMA with ATTWS and it's
    > >pretty good (even in Death Valley). But I need this bag phone activated for
    > >even more remote usage. Maybe some day I'll investigate satelite phones
    > >but...Does anyone know of any way to do an analog activation on prepay?
    > >Especially in the Cal-Nev region.

    >
    > Won't happen. They hate AMPS because it's hi-fi FM system reduces
    > revenue per channel.
    >
    > Keep the phone, though, and use its cigarette lighter power plug for
    > free e frmergency phone service where your little toyphone won't work.
    > You can still call 911 for free....from places the other phone will
    > never connect.
    >
    > One of the ploys that have been successfully used is to register a
    > digital phone on a digital plan. Program your phone number into the
    > AMPS monster beforehand. Then, when you find yourself in a DEAD ZONE,
    > call 611 from the AMPS phone and say that the reason you are calling
    > is because the AMPS phone works and the crapphone doesn't and you just
    > GOTTA have a working phone. Be very nice, contrite and beg the TSR to
    > do an ESN swap to the AMPS phone so you'll have service until you get
    > back to digital country. Drop a lot of calls on digital before you do
    > it so they can see it on your call history report in the last few
    > minutes. (Tin foil around the antenna on the crapphone is a great way
    > to cause dropped calls..(c.
    >
    > Fearing your churning, they'll turn on the AMPS phone to make you
    > happy and keep your money rollin' in. All you do, if successful, is
    > to forget to call back on the crapphone to switch it
    > back.....(shrug)....
    >
    > It has worked many times.......(c;.....no matter what the company
    > clones on here are going to tell you......and you'll have a phone that
    > works in many more places than the crapphones will.
    >
    >
    >
    > Larry W4CSC
    >
    > "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


    I understand that many more conversations can take place, on a cdma
    phone, but does cdma and analong use exactly the same group of freqs (
    on the same tower say) reason, I ask, and I have both an old analog
    and a cdma verizon--in most areas the cdma is my primary choice,but I
    am in a hilly, rural area, with only 2 really local towers, but one of
    them is cdma only, but the other has ananlog and cdma, occassionally
    cdma will be off the air, and then then little cdma phone switches to
    analog, so there must be two different groups of similar freqs ( or
    more ) on each tower---if this is true, then at any one time, there
    probably would be unused analog freqs available, and thus not
    generating revenue at all--would it be more accurate then, to say that
    a cdma freq generates more revenue per channel groupe than the analog
    group would, but a combination of the two would still do better than
    either one by itself?

    analog to some extent, then is a necessary nusiance???



  9. #39
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > > Have your carrier add CID to your account and see what happens! ;-)
    > > (Unless, of course, your Motorola is "smart" enough to ignore CID, but
    > > if it was new enough to deal with CID, it'd be new enough to hdave the
    > > feature.)
    > >

    >
    > Nope. The account *DOES* have CID active. There are two phones on the
    > account--one digital (main#) and one analog only (family#). The digital
    > gets CID--the analog doesn't. So either that feature is managed at the
    > phone level in the account (most likely) or the old Motorola bag phone
    > ignores it. In any case apparently YMMV.


    Perhaps, but I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. Or else
    I'm confused now- both of these phones of yours are on the same phone
    number or not? (Do you swap ESNs with your carrier or are they two
    different lines on one account like a family plan?) The CID option is
    turned on or off on a per number basis. If the analog phone has it's
    own number full-time (like the secondary phone on a family plan) then
    it can have different options enabled than your main phone. (CID,
    internet, etc.)

    This CID conversation started when Bagphone Larry suggested that a
    poster call his carrier on 611 from a 3-watt phone in the sticks
    whenever the handheld couldn't reach and request the carrier switch
    his ESN from the handheld to the bag phone right then and there. I
    cautioned that if he does that, also request the CID option be removed
    from the account since non-CID analog phones tend not to ring when
    they receive CID info they don't know what to do with. Your phone
    doesn't get CID data unless your carrier elects to send it.

    Back when CID on cellular was new, carriers generally checked to make
    sure the phone they activated was CID capable before enabling it on a
    number. These days, "all" phones have CID, so unless the CSR has run
    into the problem before, they aren't likely to verify a phone is
    CID-compatible everytime someone requests an ESN change.

    I think I confused you by using the word "account" when I probably
    should have said "line" or "line of service". Sorry for the
    confusion.



  10. #40
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > > Have your carrier add CID to your account and see what happens! ;-)
    > > (Unless, of course, your Motorola is "smart" enough to ignore CID, but
    > > if it was new enough to deal with CID, it'd be new enough to hdave the
    > > feature.)
    > >

    >
    > Nope. The account *DOES* have CID active. There are two phones on the
    > account--one digital (main#) and one analog only (family#). The digital
    > gets CID--the analog doesn't. So either that feature is managed at the
    > phone level in the account (most likely) or the old Motorola bag phone
    > ignores it. In any case apparently YMMV.


    Perhaps, but I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. Or else
    I'm confused now- both of these phones of yours are on the same phone
    number or not? (Do you swap ESNs with your carrier or are they two
    different lines on one account like a family plan?) The CID option is
    turned on or off on a per number basis. If the analog phone has it's
    own number full-time (like the secondary phone on a family plan) then
    it can have different options enabled than your main phone. (CID,
    internet, etc.)

    This CID conversation started when Bagphone Larry suggested that a
    poster call his carrier on 611 from a 3-watt phone in the sticks
    whenever the handheld couldn't reach and request the carrier switch
    his ESN from the handheld to the bag phone right then and there. I
    cautioned that if he does that, also request the CID option be removed
    from the account since non-CID analog phones tend not to ring when
    they receive CID info they don't know what to do with. Your phone
    doesn't get CID data unless your carrier elects to send it.

    Back when CID on cellular was new, carriers generally checked to make
    sure the phone they activated was CID capable before enabling it on a
    number. These days, "all" phones have CID, so unless the CSR has run
    into the problem before, they aren't likely to verify a phone is
    CID-compatible everytime someone requests an ESN change.

    I think I confused you by using the word "account" when I probably
    should have said "line" or "line of service". Sorry for the
    confusion.



  11. #41
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    [email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected]
    > That's all you need to know. I should get GSM right?!? LMFAO


    Absolutely- then you don't have to worry if your phone will work in
    rural areas or not. You'll already know it won't! ;-)



  12. #42
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    [email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected]
    > That's all you need to know. I should get GSM right?!? LMFAO


    Absolutely- then you don't have to worry if your phone will work in
    rural areas or not. You'll already know it won't! ;-)



  13. #43
    Jud Hardcastle
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > > > Have your carrier add CID to your account and see what happens! ;-)
    > > > (Unless, of course, your Motorola is "smart" enough to ignore CID, but
    > > > if it was new enough to deal with CID, it'd be new enough to hdave the
    > > > feature.)
    > > >

    > >
    > > Nope. The account *DOES* have CID active. There are two phones on the
    > > account--one digital (main#) and one analog only (family#). The digital
    > > gets CID--the analog doesn't. So either that feature is managed at the
    > > phone level in the account (most likely) or the old Motorola bag phone
    > > ignores it. In any case apparently YMMV.

    >
    > Perhaps, but I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. Or else
    > I'm confused now- both of these phones of yours are on the same phone
    > number or not? (Do you swap ESNs with your carrier or are they two
    > different lines on one account like a family plan?) The CID option is
    > turned on or off on a per number basis. If the analog phone has it's
    > own number full-time (like the secondary phone on a family plan) then
    > it can have different options enabled than your main phone. (CID,
    > internet, etc.)
    >

    Gotcha. They're different numbers on one account--so different options.
    Sorry--thought you were saying one option per account.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



  14. #44
    Jud Hardcastle
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > > > Have your carrier add CID to your account and see what happens! ;-)
    > > > (Unless, of course, your Motorola is "smart" enough to ignore CID, but
    > > > if it was new enough to deal with CID, it'd be new enough to hdave the
    > > > feature.)
    > > >

    > >
    > > Nope. The account *DOES* have CID active. There are two phones on the
    > > account--one digital (main#) and one analog only (family#). The digital
    > > gets CID--the analog doesn't. So either that feature is managed at the
    > > phone level in the account (most likely) or the old Motorola bag phone
    > > ignores it. In any case apparently YMMV.

    >
    > Perhaps, but I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. Or else
    > I'm confused now- both of these phones of yours are on the same phone
    > number or not? (Do you swap ESNs with your carrier or are they two
    > different lines on one account like a family plan?) The CID option is
    > turned on or off on a per number basis. If the analog phone has it's
    > own number full-time (like the secondary phone on a family plan) then
    > it can have different options enabled than your main phone. (CID,
    > internet, etc.)
    >

    Gotcha. They're different numbers on one account--so different options.
    Sorry--thought you were saying one option per account.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



  15. #45
    Sterling
    Guest

    Re: Analog Activation?!?

    And another good thing is that you can use it even if it's just 1 or 2 bars
    strong.. Assuming your "loud" enough for the tower to hear you.

    "JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay.

    TDMA/PCS
    > > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option.

    Remember,
    > > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug

    around
    > > when my toy phone will work just fine.

    >
    > And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
    > matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
    > you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems. A rooftop
    > yagi and away ya go....
    >
    >






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