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- 11-16-2003, 08:18 PM #46SterlingGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
And another good thing is that you can use it even if it's just 1 or 2 bars
strong.. Assuming your "loud" enough for the tower to hear you.
"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay.
TDMA/PCS
> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option.
Remember,
> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug
around
> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>
> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems. A rooftop
> yagi and away ya go....
>
>
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- 11-16-2003, 08:20 PM #47SterlingGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Get Golden State Cellular to activate it.. just lie about your address! lol
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I've got an old Motorola 2744 bag phone I'm trying to use. I've googled
> posts for daze and read 'em all. (Gotta love that Larry). Yes, I
downloaded
> the bible as well. So far, I can make collect, calling card and 911 calls.
>
> Now that I want to attempt to utilize this relic, the schmucks in Southern
> California don't want to activate anything other then GSM. The Cingular
rep
> said new prepaid activation was GSM only. I've got TDMA with ATTWS and
it's
> pretty good (even in Death Valley). But I need this bag phone activated
for
> even more remote usage. Maybe some day I'll investigate satelite phones
> but...Does anyone know of any way to do an analog activation on prepay?
> Especially in the Cal-Nev region.
>
- 11-16-2003, 08:20 PM #48SterlingGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Get Golden State Cellular to activate it.. just lie about your address! lol
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I've got an old Motorola 2744 bag phone I'm trying to use. I've googled
> posts for daze and read 'em all. (Gotta love that Larry). Yes, I
downloaded
> the bible as well. So far, I can make collect, calling card and 911 calls.
>
> Now that I want to attempt to utilize this relic, the schmucks in Southern
> California don't want to activate anything other then GSM. The Cingular
rep
> said new prepaid activation was GSM only. I've got TDMA with ATTWS and
it's
> pretty good (even in Death Valley). But I need this bag phone activated
for
> even more remote usage. Maybe some day I'll investigate satelite phones
> but...Does anyone know of any way to do an analog activation on prepay?
> Especially in the Cal-Nev region.
>
- 11-17-2003, 09:35 PM #49Al KleinGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0800, "Sterling"
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
[piggybacking]
>"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay. TDMA/PCS
>> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option. Remember,
>> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug around
>> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
>> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
>> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems.
Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a range
limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being TDMA, also
does.)
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net
- 11-17-2003, 09:35 PM #50Al KleinGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0800, "Sterling"
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
[piggybacking]
>"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay. TDMA/PCS
>> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option. Remember,
>> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug around
>> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
>> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
>> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems.
Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a range
limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being TDMA, also
does.)
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net
- 11-17-2003, 11:29 PM #51JerryGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>>> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it
>>> doesn't matter how far you are from the tower (within reason),
>>> unlike CDMA if you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing
>>> problems.
>
> Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a
> range limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being
> TDMA, also does.)
CDMA is not limited by the speed of light? Interesting. You should
publish a paper on this.
--
regards,
jerry
- 11-17-2003, 11:29 PM #52JerryGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>>> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it
>>> doesn't matter how far you are from the tower (within reason),
>>> unlike CDMA if you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing
>>> problems.
>
> Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a
> range limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being
> TDMA, also does.)
CDMA is not limited by the speed of light? Interesting. You should
publish a paper on this.
--
regards,
jerry
- 11-18-2003, 11:50 PM #53SterlingGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
What?! TDMA's and GSM's distance limitation is due to timing. At about 25
miles, by the time the BTS/phone transmits, the receiver will have moved
onto another user and will be received out of sync. Calls will terminate
beyond a particular distance, due to frequency/transmission interval
changes.
This can happen with CDMA too, but the limit isn't as strictly defined, and
for different reasons.
"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0800, "Sterling"
> <[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
>
> [piggybacking]
> >"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay.
TDMA/PCS
> >> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option.
Remember,
> >> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug
around
> >> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>
> >> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
> >> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
> >> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems.
>
> Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a range
> limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being TDMA, also
> does.)
> --
> Al - rukbat at optonline dot net
- 11-18-2003, 11:50 PM #54SterlingGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
What?! TDMA's and GSM's distance limitation is due to timing. At about 25
miles, by the time the BTS/phone transmits, the receiver will have moved
onto another user and will be received out of sync. Calls will terminate
beyond a particular distance, due to frequency/transmission interval
changes.
This can happen with CDMA too, but the limit isn't as strictly defined, and
for different reasons.
"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0800, "Sterling"
> <[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
>
> [piggybacking]
> >"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay.
TDMA/PCS
> >> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option.
Remember,
> >> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug
around
> >> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>
> >> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
> >> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
> >> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems.
>
> Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a range
> limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being TDMA, also
> does.)
> --
> Al - rukbat at optonline dot net
- 11-19-2003, 04:26 AM #55SquirrelGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Is it possible to do an ESN switch, tell Verizon it's a CDMA phone,
but give them an AMPS only ESN? Do they have an ESN to phone model
mapping? Might be able to get away with it.
SM
- 11-19-2003, 04:26 AM #56SquirrelGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Is it possible to do an ESN switch, tell Verizon it's a CDMA phone,
but give them an AMPS only ESN? Do they have an ESN to phone model
mapping? Might be able to get away with it.
SM
- 11-19-2003, 06:23 AM #57JerGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Squirrel wrote:
> Is it possible to do an ESN switch, tell Verizon it's a CDMA phone,
> but give them an AMPS only ESN? Do they have an ESN to phone model
> mapping? Might be able to get away with it.
>
> SM
Yes, ESN mapping is possible. The first four bytes of the ESN is a
manufacturer code, though the larger question is, Does the carrier give
a whit? Some do as this info is critical for a certain fraud prevention
technique.
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"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
- 11-19-2003, 06:23 AM #58JerGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
Squirrel wrote:
> Is it possible to do an ESN switch, tell Verizon it's a CDMA phone,
> but give them an AMPS only ESN? Do they have an ESN to phone model
> mapping? Might be able to get away with it.
>
> SM
Yes, ESN mapping is possible. The first four bytes of the ESN is a
manufacturer code, though the larger question is, Does the carrier give
a whit? Some do as this info is critical for a certain fraud prevention
technique.
--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
- 11-19-2003, 07:19 PM #59Al KleinGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:50 -0800, "Sterling"
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
>"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0800, "Sterling"
>> <[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
>> [piggybacking]
>> >"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> [email protected] wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay. TDMA/PCS
>> >> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option. Remember,
>> >> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug around
>> >> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>> >> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
>> >> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
>> >> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems.
>> Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a range
>> limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being TDMA, also
>> does.)
>What?! TDMA's and GSM's distance limitation is due to timing. At about 25
>miles, by the time the BTS/phone transmits, the receiver will have moved
>onto another user and will be received out of sync. Calls will terminate
>beyond a particular distance, due to frequency/transmission interval
>changes.
>This can happen with CDMA too, but the limit isn't as strictly defined, and
>for different reasons.
That's what I said.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net
- 11-19-2003, 07:19 PM #60Al KleinGuest
Re: Analog Activation?!?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:50:50 -0800, "Sterling"
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
>"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:18:10 -0800, "Sterling"
>> <[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.motorola:
>> [piggybacking]
>> >"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> [email protected] wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for the pertanant replies. Looks like it's going on ebay. TDMA/PCS
>> >> > and a yagi or mag-mount is about the only other affordable option. Remember,
>> >> > this is for use in remote areas not something I want to try and lug around
>> >> > when my toy phone will work just fine.
>> >> And another good thing about TDMA/Analog over CDMA is that it doesn't
>> >> matter how far you are from the tower (within reason), unlike CDMA if
>> >> you are more than 4 or 5 miles you'll get timing problems.
>> Actually, it's TDMA (*TIME* Division Multiple Access) that has a range
>> limited by the speed of light. CDMA doesn't. (GSM, being TDMA, also
>> does.)
>What?! TDMA's and GSM's distance limitation is due to timing. At about 25
>miles, by the time the BTS/phone transmits, the receiver will have moved
>onto another user and will be received out of sync. Calls will terminate
>beyond a particular distance, due to frequency/transmission interval
>changes.
>This can happen with CDMA too, but the limit isn't as strictly defined, and
>for different reasons.
That's what I said.
--
Al - rukbat at optonline dot net
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