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  1. #1
    Buster
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    Interesting stuff. I was playing around with my knew phone tonight.

    I upgraded from a very old Audiovox CDM-8xxx series phone to the Motorola
    C343. I have Verizon cellular.

    First I was messing with WAP, SMS/EMS and Ringtones/"get it now" today.
    Nothing great. Not impressed with WAP one bit. The polyphonic ringtones
    are cool, but it's rather expensive to get new ringtones.

    Then I was trying to figure out what use this aGPS stuff was. I understand
    the whole emergency call reporting your location, but why does the cell
    phone have the ability to set "location" active for 911 only or all the
    time? All the GPS calculations are done at the cell towers and reported
    back to the 911 operators. The only thing the phone does is relay timing
    information to the towers.

    I messed with the phone for awhile and grew tired of it.

    I previously managed the 300+ cell phones at work and got used to running
    around with my V60 in field test mode trying to figure out why AT&T service
    was so crappy in our area. For the hell of it, I switched the C343 into
    field test mode to see what it was like on Verizon's network.

    Well, the usual menus are there. A little extra information is thrown on
    there beyond what the v60 had.

    One interesting thing though. It had a GPS screen in field test mode. I
    let it try to get a lock, but it wouldn't show any values in the fields. It
    appears that it has the capability to show; Latitude, Longitude, Altitude,
    Bearing, Velocity, Horizontal Velocity, Vertical Velocity and a whole lot
    more GPS information. It even has a "SAT" screen that showed GPS satelite
    information (all zeros though) and a "Pilot" screen".

    I messed around enabling and disabling location to see if I could get GPS to
    "lock". I also tried stepping outside and seeing if I could get a GPS
    "lock" but couldn't get any information to display on the field test
    screens.


    Interesting stuff though. I wonder if it will ever show the GPS
    information.





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  2. #2
    Diamond Dave
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:08:30 -0700, "Buster" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Interesting stuff though. I wonder if it will ever show the GPS
    >information.


    I have a motorola v120e that is aGPS enabled. I too can get it to go
    to the Field Test Mode screens and have yet to have it show any GPS
    info.

    I've tried in the DC region, Portland, ME, San Diego, CA, St. Louis,
    MO, Virginia Beach, VA, Richmond, VA and still haven't had it work
    yet.

    I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?

    Dave





  3. #3
    Diamond Dave
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:08:30 -0700, "Buster" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Interesting stuff though. I wonder if it will ever show the GPS
    >information.


    I have a motorola v120e that is aGPS enabled. I too can get it to go
    to the Field Test Mode screens and have yet to have it show any GPS
    info.

    I've tried in the DC region, Portland, ME, San Diego, CA, St. Louis,
    MO, Virginia Beach, VA, Richmond, VA and still haven't had it work
    yet.

    I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?

    Dave





  4. #4
    Aboutdakota
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona



    Diamond Dave wrote:
    > On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:08:30 -0700, "Buster" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Interesting stuff though. I wonder if it will ever show the GPS
    >>information.

    >
    >
    > I have a motorola v120e that is aGPS enabled. I too can get it to go
    > to the Field Test Mode screens and have yet to have it show any GPS
    > info.
    >
    > I've tried in the DC region, Portland, ME, San Diego, CA, St. Louis,
    > MO, Virginia Beach, VA, Richmond, VA and still haven't had it work
    > yet.
    >
    > I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?
    >
    > Dave


    Maybe the current software version doesn't support it.

    ==AD




  5. #5
    Aboutdakota
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona



    Diamond Dave wrote:
    > On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:08:30 -0700, "Buster" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Interesting stuff though. I wonder if it will ever show the GPS
    >>information.

    >
    >
    > I have a motorola v120e that is aGPS enabled. I too can get it to go
    > to the Field Test Mode screens and have yet to have it show any GPS
    > info.
    >
    > I've tried in the DC region, Portland, ME, San Diego, CA, St. Louis,
    > MO, Virginia Beach, VA, Richmond, VA and still haven't had it work
    > yet.
    >
    > I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?
    >
    > Dave


    Maybe the current software version doesn't support it.

    ==AD




  6. #6
    Roger Binns
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    > I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?

    My best guess is that phone actually downloads its location.

    It gives a GPS signal summary to the towers, which can then compute
    the actual location.

    On the 4400 there are debug menus where you can enter server
    locations.

    GIN and WAP are just based off IP addresses as well, so it
    would make sense for GPS to work in some similar fashion.

    Roger





  7. #7
    Roger Binns
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    > I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?

    My best guess is that phone actually downloads its location.

    It gives a GPS signal summary to the towers, which can then compute
    the actual location.

    On the 4400 there are debug menus where you can enter server
    locations.

    GIN and WAP are just based off IP addresses as well, so it
    would make sense for GPS to work in some similar fashion.

    Roger





  8. #8
    Thomas Zielinski
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????

    -Tom

    "Roger Binns" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?

    >
    > My best guess is that phone actually downloads its location.
    >
    > It gives a GPS signal summary to the towers, which can then compute
    > the actual location.
    >




  9. #9
    Thomas Zielinski
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????

    -Tom

    "Roger Binns" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I don't know if Verizon doesn't yet have it enabled or what?

    >
    > My best guess is that phone actually downloads its location.
    >
    > It gives a GPS signal summary to the towers, which can then compute
    > the actual location.
    >




  10. #10
    Joe Burke
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    "Thomas Zielinski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????


    If you want to try it, go ahead and let us know after you do it.

    Joe





  11. #11
    Joe Burke
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    "Thomas Zielinski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????


    If you want to try it, go ahead and let us know after you do it.

    Joe





  12. #12
    SCott
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    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    "Joe Burke" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Thomas Zielinski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????

    >
    > If you want to try it, go ahead and let us know after you do it.
    >
    > Joe


    I have a Samsung A530 and in field test mode it actually shows the
    longitude and lattitude. Pretty interesting.



  13. #13
    SCott
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    "Joe Burke" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Thomas Zielinski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????

    >
    > If you want to try it, go ahead and let us know after you do it.
    >
    > Joe


    I have a Samsung A530 and in field test mode it actually shows the
    longitude and lattitude. Pretty interesting.



  14. #14
    Joe Burke
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    "SCott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Joe Burke" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > "Thomas Zielinski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????

    > >
    > > If you want to try it, go ahead and let us know after you do it.
    > >
    > > Joe

    >
    > I have a Samsung A530 and in field test mode it actually shows the
    > longitude and lattitude. Pretty interesting.


    Most likely it depends on if VZW has set it up in your area. Your local 911
    PSAP probably gets your GPS info if you call them.
    I think this is part of E911 Phase 2. What area are you in?

    Joe





  15. #15
    Joe Burke
    Guest

    Re: GPS info in field test mode on Motorola C343 with Verizona

    "SCott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Joe Burke" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > "Thomas Zielinski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Maybe if you dial 911... the screen will be populated ????

    > >
    > > If you want to try it, go ahead and let us know after you do it.
    > >
    > > Joe

    >
    > I have a Samsung A530 and in field test mode it actually shows the
    > longitude and lattitude. Pretty interesting.


    Most likely it depends on if VZW has set it up in your area. Your local 911
    PSAP probably gets your GPS info if you call them.
    I think this is part of E911 Phase 2. What area are you in?

    Joe





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