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  1. #1
    dep_blueman
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    I was looking at prices for 'nation wide' calling plans with PTT with
    Nextel and Verizon based on these needs:

    800 min/month usage @ 95% daytime usage with >60% LD
    400 min/month PTT (99% in the same region/market)

    It looks like Nextel's best deal would be the '10,000' plan or
    whatever they are calling it these days:

    1,000 daytime min
    Unlimited night/weekend
    Unlimited PTT in local area
    LD included
    $55/month + taxes and fees

    Verizon's plan would be the America's Choice /w PTT 700:

    800 daytime min
    Unlimited night/weekend
    Unlimited PTT nationwide
    LD included
    $80/month + taxes and fees

    If the coverage/quality on Nextel meets my needs and I don't need
    nation wide PTT (or even if I do) what do I get for the extra
    $25/month on Verizon? I always thought that Nextel was the highest
    priced carrier but unless I am missing something Verizon is a good
    deal more.

    -D



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  2. #2
    Ben Skversky
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    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would work
    great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute plan,
    but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT, fine.
    I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get out
    of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my word,
    go with VZW.


    "dep_blueman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I was looking at prices for 'nation wide' calling plans with PTT with
    > Nextel and Verizon based on these needs:
    >
    > 800 min/month usage @ 95% daytime usage with >60% LD
    > 400 min/month PTT (99% in the same region/market)
    >
    > It looks like Nextel's best deal would be the '10,000' plan or
    > whatever they are calling it these days:
    >
    > 1,000 daytime min
    > Unlimited night/weekend
    > Unlimited PTT in local area
    > LD included
    > $55/month + taxes and fees
    >
    > Verizon's plan would be the America's Choice /w PTT 700:
    >
    > 800 daytime min
    > Unlimited night/weekend
    > Unlimited PTT nationwide
    > LD included
    > $80/month + taxes and fees
    >
    > If the coverage/quality on Nextel meets my needs and I don't need
    > nation wide PTT (or even if I do) what do I get for the extra
    > $25/month on Verizon? I always thought that Nextel was the highest
    > priced carrier but unless I am missing something Verizon is a good
    > deal more.
    >
    > -D






  3. #3
    plaguebeast
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?


    "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    work
    > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    plan,
    > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    fine.
    > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get

    out
    > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my word,
    > go with VZW.
    >


    <snip>

    >


    your argument only holds water if you are in an area that has poor Nextel
    coverage. You are probably saying "but I live in an area that SHOULD have
    good Nextel coverage." Again, should being the keyword.

    You have good VZW coverage, then for you and your friends, VZW is the way to
    go. Where I live we have great Nextel coverage so the Nextel plan is a much
    better deal for me.

    How much you had to pay Nextel to get out of your contract is irrelevant and
    kinda your fault anyway, didn't you know in the first month that Nextel had
    poor coverage where you are ?



    If I were you I would reconsider my generalizations. Saying that "Nextel's
    cell service is horrible" can get you in a lot of trouble, you are implying
    "everywhere". Saying that Nextel's cell service is horrible where you live
    might be a better statement.





  4. #4
    MAPP
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    Hmmm. In the latest issue of Consumer Reports, Nextel was rated as having
    better than average call completion.

    That seems to contradict your info. Plus I'm sure their study was scientific
    and controlled/

    M

    "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    work
    > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    plan,
    > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    fine.
    > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get

    out
    > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my word,
    > go with VZW.
    >
    >
    > "dep_blueman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I was looking at prices for 'nation wide' calling plans with PTT with
    > > Nextel and Verizon based on these needs:
    > >
    > > 800 min/month usage @ 95% daytime usage with >60% LD
    > > 400 min/month PTT (99% in the same region/market)
    > >
    > > It looks like Nextel's best deal would be the '10,000' plan or
    > > whatever they are calling it these days:
    > >
    > > 1,000 daytime min
    > > Unlimited night/weekend
    > > Unlimited PTT in local area
    > > LD included
    > > $55/month + taxes and fees
    > >
    > > Verizon's plan would be the America's Choice /w PTT 700:
    > >
    > > 800 daytime min
    > > Unlimited night/weekend
    > > Unlimited PTT nationwide
    > > LD included
    > > $80/month + taxes and fees
    > >
    > > If the coverage/quality on Nextel meets my needs and I don't need
    > > nation wide PTT (or even if I do) what do I get for the extra
    > > $25/month on Verizon? I always thought that Nextel was the highest
    > > priced carrier but unless I am missing something Verizon is a good
    > > deal more.
    > >
    > > -D

    >
    >






  5. #5
    Mark Kim
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    I take it as a troll to some people.....

    You shouldn't be judging a book by its cover. While Nextel was average
    back in 2002, it appears that the Cell Service seems to improve in
    2003...IMO they're striving to do better.

    Again, don't troll certain cell companies as you might anger some people
    and never judge cell companies by its cover.




  6. #6
    Dean M
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    A post I saw put it best IMHO;

    Nextel is a walkie-talkie with a phone glued on.
    Verizon is a phone with a walkie-talkie glued on.

    I use Nextel for work, and Verizon for personal use. Where it works, Nextel PTT
    is fabulous. Can't beat it. Phone coverage is spotty, but acceptable.

    Verizon OTOH has almost 100% phone coverage in my area (NY Metro), and
    excellent voice quality on phone. I've only used their PTT once, and wasn't
    impressed after using Nextel.

    If you need the PTT more, and Nextel coverage is good for you, go with it.
    If you really need a phone that works almost all the time, go with VZW. Think of
    the PTT as a bonus, not a prime reason to go VZW.

    My 2c.
    Dean
    _________________________________________
    plaguebeast wrote:

    > "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    > work
    > > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    > plan,
    > > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    > fine.
    > > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get

    > out
    > > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my word,
    > > go with VZW.
    > >

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > >

    >
    > your argument only holds water if you are in an area that has poor Nextel
    > coverage. You are probably saying "but I live in an area that SHOULD have
    > good Nextel coverage." Again, should being the keyword.
    >
    > You have good VZW coverage, then for you and your friends, VZW is the way to
    > go. Where I live we have great Nextel coverage so the Nextel plan is a much
    > better deal for me.
    >
    > How much you had to pay Nextel to get out of your contract is irrelevant and
    > kinda your fault anyway, didn't you know in the first month that Nextel had
    > poor coverage where you are ?
    >
    > If I were you I would reconsider my generalizations. Saying that "Nextel's
    > cell service is horrible" can get you in a lot of trouble, you are implying
    > "everywhere". Saying that Nextel's cell service is horrible where you live
    > might be a better statement.





  7. #7
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?


    "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    work
    > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    plan,
    > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    fine.
    > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get

    out
    > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my word,
    > go with VZW.
    >


    Funny- the only time I've had a dropped call was in the mountains of
    Colorado, far away from where I should have expected service anyway (my
    buddy's VZW was dead long before we got there). Never missed a call either.

    And it cost you $200 to get out of your contract because that was in the
    contract- should have discovered all of the problems in the first 14 days-
    then it wouldn't have cost you a cent.





  8. #8

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    Ignoring his agents wishes,Mark Kim <[email protected]> flung open
    the hotel room door and announced to the gathering crowd:

    >I take it as a troll to some people.....
    >
    >You shouldn't be judging a book by its cover. While Nextel was average
    >back in 2002, it appears that the Cell Service seems to improve in
    >2003...IMO they're striving to do better.
    >
    >Again, don't troll certain cell companies as you might anger some people
    >and never judge cell companies by its cover.



    I switched from AT&T to Nextel and the only issue we've had so far is
    that Nextel's phones are just about worthless outside of the US. When
    we were on vacation in the Virgin Islands, the roaming fee was
    horrendous but we could still send and receive calls on our AT&T but
    our Nextel phone was only good to play games on.

    I sure hope Nextel has plans to expand their coverage outside of the
    US. At least to US territories. It didn't work in San Juan either.

    Oh well.




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  9. #9
    Bob the Printer
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    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?


    "dep_blueman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]

    > Verizon's plan would be the America's Choice /w PTT 700:
    >
    > 800 daytime min
    > Unlimited night/weekend
    > Unlimited PTT nationwide
    > LD included
    > $80/month + taxes and fees


    Unlimited PTT nationwide looks like the main difference.

    It depends on your main use really. If the PTT part is your main concern,
    then I suppose Nextel would be the way to go. But I hear that their cell
    phone service itself isn't so good, while Verizon's is great but I hear that
    their PTT isn't so good.





  10. #10
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    In alt.cellular.verizon [email protected] wrote:

    > I switched from AT&T to Nextel and the only issue we've had so far is
    > that Nextel's phones are just about worthless outside of the US. When
    > we were on vacation in the Virgin Islands, the roaming fee was
    > horrendous but we could still send and receive calls on our AT&T but
    > our Nextel phone was only good to play games on.


    Uhhh.... Nextel has at least one or two phones that do GSM *and* IDEN. My
    father has one (i95, I think) and he's used it in China....

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  11. #11

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    Ignoring his agents wishes,Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> flung
    open the hotel room door and announced to the gathering crowd:

    >In alt.cellular.verizon [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> I switched from AT&T to Nextel and the only issue we've had so far is
    >> that Nextel's phones are just about worthless outside of the US. When
    >> we were on vacation in the Virgin Islands, the roaming fee was
    >> horrendous but we could still send and receive calls on our AT&T but
    >> our Nextel phone was only good to play games on.

    >
    >Uhhh.... Nextel has at least one or two phones that do GSM *and* IDEN. My
    >father has one (i95, I think) and he's used it in China....



    well, I have three i730's and none of them worked.


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  12. #12
    Ben Skversky
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    Nextel service was terrible in the Philly, NJ & Delaware area. Absolutely
    the worst.


    "plaguebeast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    > work
    > > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    > plan,
    > > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    > fine.
    > > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get

    > out
    > > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my

    word,
    > > go with VZW.
    > >

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > >

    >
    > your argument only holds water if you are in an area that has poor Nextel
    > coverage. You are probably saying "but I live in an area that SHOULD have
    > good Nextel coverage." Again, should being the keyword.
    >
    > You have good VZW coverage, then for you and your friends, VZW is the way

    to
    > go. Where I live we have great Nextel coverage so the Nextel plan is a

    much
    > better deal for me.
    >
    > How much you had to pay Nextel to get out of your contract is irrelevant

    and
    > kinda your fault anyway, didn't you know in the first month that Nextel

    had
    > poor coverage where you are ?
    >
    >
    >
    > If I were you I would reconsider my generalizations. Saying that

    "Nextel's
    > cell service is horrible" can get you in a lot of trouble, you are

    implying
    > "everywhere". Saying that Nextel's cell service is horrible where you

    live
    > might be a better statement.
    >
    >






  13. #13
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?


    "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Nextel service was terrible in the Philly, NJ & Delaware area. Absolutely
    > the worst.
    >


    How long ago?





  14. #14
    Ben Skversky
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    Hey, I'm not complaining about the $200 fee. I paid it and moved on. I was
    complaining about the lousy cell service.


    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    > work
    > > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    > plan,
    > > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    > fine.
    > > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to get

    > out
    > > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my

    word,
    > > go with VZW.
    > >

    >
    > Funny- the only time I've had a dropped call was in the mountains of
    > Colorado, far away from where I should have expected service anyway (my
    > buddy's VZW was dead long before we got there). Never missed a call

    either.
    >
    > And it cost you $200 to get out of your contract because that was in the
    > contract- should have discovered all of the problems in the first 14 days-
    > then it wouldn't have cost you a cent.
    >
    >






  15. #15
    plaguebeast
    Guest

    Re: Nextel/Verizon plan costs: Am I missing something?

    strange, I was in Philly about 2 or 3 weeks ago, radio to radio in Philly
    was good, radio to radio from Philly to South Florida was also good. Phone
    service quality followed the PTT service. I was everywhere from Elkins Park
    to the airport.


    "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Nextel service was terrible in the Philly, NJ & Delaware area. Absolutely
    > the worst.
    >
    >
    > "plaguebeast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "Ben Skversky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > You get what you pay for. Nextel's cell service is horrible. Missed &
    > > > dropped calls. Nextel phone would say no service while VZW phone would

    > > work
    > > > great. No service in my home. (Nextel) I had the Nextel 10,000 minute

    > > plan,
    > > > but what could is it if there was no service? If all you want is PTT,

    > > fine.
    > > > I dropped Nextel & came back to VZW. by the way, it cost me $200 to

    get
    > > out
    > > > of my Nextel contract. I have the America's choice 800 plan. Take my

    > word,
    > > > go with VZW.
    > > >

    > >
    > > <snip>
    > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > your argument only holds water if you are in an area that has poor

    Nextel
    > > coverage. You are probably saying "but I live in an area that SHOULD

    have
    > > good Nextel coverage." Again, should being the keyword.
    > >
    > > You have good VZW coverage, then for you and your friends, VZW is the

    way
    > to
    > > go. Where I live we have great Nextel coverage so the Nextel plan is a

    > much
    > > better deal for me.
    > >
    > > How much you had to pay Nextel to get out of your contract is irrelevant

    > and
    > > kinda your fault anyway, didn't you know in the first month that Nextel

    > had
    > > poor coverage where you are ?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > If I were you I would reconsider my generalizations. Saying that

    > "Nextel's
    > > cell service is horrible" can get you in a lot of trouble, you are

    > implying
    > > "everywhere". Saying that Nextel's cell service is horrible where you

    > live
    > > might be a better statement.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






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