Nextel PTT vs PoC

I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy

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In alt.cellular.verizon Kathy <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy

Heh, given the experiences others have had with Verizon Push-To-Talk, I
parsed PoC as "Piece of Crap."

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On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:

> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy

Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
it's PTT is very fast and efficient.

VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is why
there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the longer
the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
voice-over-internet it's the same concept.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In alt.cellular.verizon Kathy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
> > how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
> > work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
> > this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy
>
> Heh, given the experiences others have had with Verizon Push-To-Talk, I
> parsed PoC as "Piece of Crap."
>

I would have to agree there. From a user's standpoint, soon to be 'former'
user, VZW PTT simply SUCKS!!!!!

Originally posted by Sensor Man

Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
it's PTT is very fast and efficient.

VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is why
there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the longer
the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
voice-over-internet it's the same concept.

verizon also does not search over the network constantly, only every few minutes, where nextel is searching for the closest tower continuously. basically, when a ptt (by verizon) is initiated it must search the network and will "dial-in" as a standard cellular call (unlike nextel) and will then get transferred to the other user. there are more technical definitions too...i'll look them up because it explains much better than i do!

rdmiller wrote:
> Sensor Man wrote:
>
>>*
>>Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's
>>why
>>it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
>>
>>VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which
>>is why
>>there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the
>>longer
>>the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
>>voice-over-internet it's the same concept. *
>
>
> verizon also does not search over the network constantly, only every
> few minutes, where nextel is searching for the closest tower
> continuously. basically, when a ptt (by verizon) is initiated it must
> search the network and will "dial-in" as a standard cellular call
> (unlike nextel) and will then get transferred to the other user. there
> are more technical definitions too...i'll look them up because it
> explains much better than i do!
>
>
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Very interesting, I wonder how does Sprint's (crap) ptt or Alltel's new
ptt work? are they also POC as I read somewhere months ago ...I believe
it was T-Mobile with one of the Nokia's was going to implement the ptt
but over gprs.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:05 GMT, Sensor Man <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:
>
>> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
>> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
>> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
>> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy
>
>Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
>it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
>
>VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is why
>there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the longer
>the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
>voice-over-internet it's the same concept.

yep, vzw and sprint use VoIP for ptt. alltel uses kodiak or somethng
like that. and Iden is something about switch routing. (yeah i know,
very informative)

Check this out:
http://www.idencustom.com/infocenter...opic.php?t=247


"Dee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:05 GMT, Sensor Man <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
> >> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
> >> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
> >> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy
> >
> >Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
> >it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
> >
> >VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is
why
> >there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the
longer
> >the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
> >voice-over-internet it's the same concept.
>
> yep, vzw and sprint use VoIP for ptt. alltel uses kodiak or somethng
> like that. and Iden is something about switch routing. (yeah i know,
> very informative)

heh! very nice...Nextel.Done. |

Why doesnt it make sense?


"Myself" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> the final word in this clip says sprint is just as fast, but that doesnt
> make sense. anyone have any comments?
>
>
> "iDENCustom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Check this out:
> > http://www.idencustom.com/infocenter...opic.php?t=247
> >
> >
> > "Dee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:05 GMT, Sensor Man <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
> > > >> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC)
will
> > > >> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
> > > >> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated!
Kathy
> > > >
> > > >Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's
> why
> > > >it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
> > > >
> > > >VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which
> is
> > why
> > > >there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the
> > longer
> > > >the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
> > > >voice-over-internet it's the same concept.
> > >
> > > yep, vzw and sprint use VoIP for ptt. alltel uses kodiak or somethng
> > > like that. and Iden is something about switch routing. (yeah i know,
> > > very informative)
> >
> >
>
>