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  1. #1
    Kathy
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    I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
    work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy



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  2. #2
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    In alt.cellular.verizon Kathy <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    > how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
    > work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    > this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy


    Heh, given the experiences others have had with Verizon Push-To-Talk, I
    parsed PoC as "Piece of Crap."

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  3. #3
    Sensor Man
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:

    > I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    > how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
    > work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    > this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy


    Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
    it's PTT is very fast and efficient.

    VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is why
    there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the longer
    the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
    voice-over-internet it's the same concept.



  4. #4
    pm1072
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC


    "Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > In alt.cellular.verizon Kathy <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    > > how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
    > > work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    > > this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy

    >
    > Heh, given the experiences others have had with Verizon Push-To-Talk, I
    > parsed PoC as "Piece of Crap."
    >


    I would have to agree there. From a user's standpoint, soon to be 'former'
    user, VZW PTT simply SUCKS!!!!!







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    Re: Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    Originally posted by Sensor Man

    Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
    it's PTT is very fast and efficient.

    VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is why
    there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the longer
    the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
    voice-over-internet it's the same concept.
    verizon also does not search over the network constantly, only every few minutes, where nextel is searching for the closest tower continuously. basically, when a ptt (by verizon) is initiated it must search the network and will "dial-in" as a standard cellular call (unlike nextel) and will then get transferred to the other user. there are more technical definitions too...i'll look them up because it explains much better than i do!



  6. #6
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    rdmiller wrote:
    > Sensor Man wrote:
    >
    >>*
    >>Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's
    >>why
    >>it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
    >>
    >>VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which
    >>is why
    >>there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the
    >>longer
    >>the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
    >>voice-over-internet it's the same concept. *

    >
    >
    > verizon also does not search over the network constantly, only every
    > few minutes, where nextel is searching for the closest tower
    > continuously. basically, when a ptt (by verizon) is initiated it must
    > search the network and will "dial-in" as a standard cellular call
    > (unlike nextel) and will then get transferred to the other user. there
    > are more technical definitions too...i'll look them up because it
    > explains much better than i do!
    >
    >
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    Very interesting, I wonder how does Sprint's (crap) ptt or Alltel's new
    ptt work? are they also POC as I read somewhere months ago ...I believe
    it was T-Mobile with one of the Nokia's was going to implement the ptt
    but over gprs.



  7. #7
    Dee
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:05 GMT, Sensor Man <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:
    >
    >> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    >> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
    >> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    >> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy

    >
    >Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
    >it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
    >
    >VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is why
    >there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the longer
    >the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
    >voice-over-internet it's the same concept.


    yep, vzw and sprint use VoIP for ptt. alltel uses kodiak or somethng
    like that. and Iden is something about switch routing. (yeah i know,
    very informative)



  8. #8
    iDENCustom
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    Check this out:
    http://www.idencustom.com/infocenter...opic.php?t=247


    "Dee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:05 GMT, Sensor Man <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:
    > >
    > >> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    > >> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC) will
    > >> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    > >> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated! Kathy

    > >
    > >Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's why
    > >it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
    > >
    > >VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which is

    why
    > >there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the

    longer
    > >the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
    > >voice-over-internet it's the same concept.

    >
    > yep, vzw and sprint use VoIP for ptt. alltel uses kodiak or somethng
    > like that. and Iden is something about switch routing. (yeah i know,
    > very informative)






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    rdmiller
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    heh! very nice...Nextel.Done. |



  10. #10
    iDENCustom
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    Re: Nextel PTT vs PoC

    Why doesnt it make sense?


    "Myself" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > the final word in this clip says sprint is just as fast, but that doesnt
    > make sense. anyone have any comments?
    >
    >
    > "iDENCustom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Check this out:
    > > http://www.idencustom.com/infocenter...opic.php?t=247
    > >
    > >
    > > "Dee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:05 GMT, Sensor Man <[email protected]>
    > > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >On 26 Jan 2004 09:34:02 -0800, Kathy wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> I'd like to understand more about the technical differences between
    > > > >> how Nextel PTT operates and how push to talk over cellular (PoC)

    will
    > > > >> work. I have read a lot of older posts that are sort of related to
    > > > >> this, but I'm seeking greater clarity. Any help appreciated!

    Kathy
    > > > >
    > > > >Nextel is basically a two-way radio with cell service added. That's

    > why
    > > > >it's PTT is very fast and efficient.
    > > > >
    > > > >VZW sends it's PTT voice data in packets over the cell network, which

    > is
    > > why
    > > > >there are longer delays in the talking. The busier the network, the

    > > longer
    > > > >the pauses can be between talk and listen. If you ever used
    > > > >voice-over-internet it's the same concept.
    > > >
    > > > yep, vzw and sprint use VoIP for ptt. alltel uses kodiak or somethng
    > > > like that. and Iden is something about switch routing. (yeah i know,
    > > > very informative)

    > >
    > >

    >
    >






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