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  1. #1
    Method to Madness
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    I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing should
    not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the time.
    The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the phone?
    What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I had
    to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was saying.
    All this hype about it and to find out it's complete crap pisses me off. Are
    there any other phones out there that don't have these ridiculous problems?





    See More: The i730 sucks...




  2. #2
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...


    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    should
    > not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    > display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the time.


    No different than the other Nextel clamshells- all of the display face into
    the clip. I find it easier to unclip the phone and look, rather than
    contort to look down at my waist.

    > The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    phone?

    First, I believe they were able to put a bigger speaker in it that way.
    Second, it makes it much easier to hear when clipped on the sun visor in my
    car.

    > What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    had
    > to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    saying.

    Are you under the impression that you have to talk into the open clamshell
    in speaker mode?

    > All this hype about it and to find out it's complete crap pisses me off.

    Are
    > there any other phones out there that don't have these ridiculous

    problems?
    >
    >






  3. #3
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    In message <<[email protected]>> "Method to Madness"
    <[email protected]> did ramble:

    >I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing should
    >not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    >display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the time.


    Unless you wear the belt clip on your glasses, how do you plan to look
    at the display? -- If you wear it on your belt, like it's designed to be
    used, then this is an ideal design as it protects the face.

    >The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the phone?


    Yes.

    >What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I had
    >to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was saying.


    Hold the phone in your hand, cup your hand around the phone and the
    sound will reflect up towards you.
    --
    HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a pig



  4. #4
    Myself
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    Go buy a non-oem clip from some other vendor. i havnt looked specifically
    for the i730, but i know you could buy many types of clips for the
    i1000--inward and outward facing. about looking for another nextel, this
    time go look at it in a store and actually see if it will meet your needs.
    also, calm down!


    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I use the beltclip for lots of things, not ONLY a beltclip. Don't put me

    in
    > jail for using it for other places. I clip it on my sway handle in my
    > vehicle and yea...hands free headset is plugged in and all. So in order to
    > take a friggin call I need to unclip the phone, see who it is, open the
    > phone and answer it. Lots of work for a "hands free" phone. It's just dump
    > covering up any external display in my opinion. They could have made a

    clip
    > which let that display come through...but why do some thing so easy to

    make
    > it useful?
    >
    > My god man, holding the phone in such a way to have the audible sound
    > reflect off my palm and shoot upward so I can hear it better is not a
    > solution for me. I don't want to "think" about how I'm holding the phone

    or
    > worry about how I'm holding it. I can't be the only person that thinks
    > putting a speaker on the rear of a phone is just a dumb idea. Try this at
    > home. Turn all your home theater speakers around so they're not facing

    you,
    > but point them at the wall so the sound will bounce back. This is what you
    > are telling me to do.
    >
    > My solution is to ditch this piece of crap and find another Nextel.
    >
    > "DevilsPGD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]com...
    > > In message <<[email protected]>> "Method to Madness"
    > > <[email protected]> did ramble:
    > >
    > > >I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    > should
    > > >not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the

    external
    > > >display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the

    > time.
    > >
    > > Unless you wear the belt clip on your glasses, how do you plan to look
    > > at the display? -- If you wear it on your belt, like it's designed to be
    > > used, then this is an ideal design as it protects the face.
    > >
    > > >The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    > phone?
    > >
    > > Yes.
    > >
    > > >What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    > had
    > > >to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    > saying.
    > >
    > > Hold the phone in your hand, cup your hand around the phone and the
    > > sound will reflect up towards you.
    > > --
    > > HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a

    pig
    >
    >






  5. #5
    @(none)
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    Well, if you didn't research what you planned to buy BEFORE spending
    money...you are a total idiot! Next go buy an after market/non-oem belt
    clip, there are lots of them, and you will see your precious external
    display face out. Just don't run back here and cry when its beat up
    from things you lean up against.


    Method to Madness wrote:
    > I use the beltclip for lots of things, not ONLY a beltclip. Don't put me in
    > jail for using it for other places. I clip it on my sway handle in my
    > vehicle and yea...hands free headset is plugged in and all. So in order to
    > take a friggin call I need to unclip the phone, see who it is, open the
    > phone and answer it. Lots of work for a "hands free" phone. It's just dump
    > covering up any external display in my opinion. They could have made a clip
    > which let that display come through...but why do some thing so easy to make
    > it useful?
    >
    > My god man, holding the phone in such a way to have the audible sound
    > reflect off my palm and shoot upward so I can hear it better is not a
    > solution for me. I don't want to "think" about how I'm holding the phone or
    > worry about how I'm holding it. I can't be the only person that thinks
    > putting a speaker on the rear of a phone is just a dumb idea. Try this at
    > home. Turn all your home theater speakers around so they're not facing you,
    > but point them at the wall so the sound will bounce back. This is what you
    > are telling me to do.
    >
    > My solution is to ditch this piece of crap and find another Nextel.
    >
    > "DevilsPGD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>In message <<[email protected]>> "Method to Madness"
    >><[email protected]> did ramble:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    >
    > should
    >
    >>>not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    >>>display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the

    >
    > time.
    >
    >>Unless you wear the belt clip on your glasses, how do you plan to look
    >>at the display? -- If you wear it on your belt, like it's designed to be
    >>used, then this is an ideal design as it protects the face.
    >>
    >>
    >>>The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    >
    > phone?
    >
    >>Yes.
    >>
    >>
    >>>What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    >
    > had
    >
    >>>to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    >
    > saying.
    >
    >>Hold the phone in your hand, cup your hand around the phone and the
    >>sound will reflect up towards you.
    >>--
    >>HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a pig

    >
    >
    >




  6. #6
    Exeter
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > The damn speaker when the clam shell
    > is opened is on the back of the phone? What moron put a speaker
    > BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I had to turn the god
    > damn phone around to hear what the other person was saying. All this
    > hype about it and to find out it's complete crap pisses me off.


    Well, since you talk out of your ass and have **** coming out of your
    mouth, it sounds like the phone was designed just for you!!



  7. #7
    Myself
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    looks like we share the same opinions, eh?...


    "@(none)" <""cliff\"@(none)"> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Well, if you didn't research what you planned to buy BEFORE spending
    > money...you are a total idiot! Next go buy an after market/non-oem belt
    > clip, there are lots of them, and you will see your precious external
    > display face out. Just don't run back here and cry when its beat up
    > from things you lean up against.
    >
    >
    > Method to Madness wrote:
    > > I use the beltclip for lots of things, not ONLY a beltclip. Don't put me

    in
    > > jail for using it for other places. I clip it on my sway handle in my
    > > vehicle and yea...hands free headset is plugged in and all. So in order

    to
    > > take a friggin call I need to unclip the phone, see who it is, open the
    > > phone and answer it. Lots of work for a "hands free" phone. It's just

    dump
    > > covering up any external display in my opinion. They could have made a

    clip
    > > which let that display come through...but why do some thing so easy to

    make
    > > it useful?
    > >
    > > My god man, holding the phone in such a way to have the audible sound
    > > reflect off my palm and shoot upward so I can hear it better is not a
    > > solution for me. I don't want to "think" about how I'm holding the phone

    or
    > > worry about how I'm holding it. I can't be the only person that thinks
    > > putting a speaker on the rear of a phone is just a dumb idea. Try this

    at
    > > home. Turn all your home theater speakers around so they're not facing

    you,
    > > but point them at the wall so the sound will bounce back. This is what

    you
    > > are telling me to do.
    > >
    > > My solution is to ditch this piece of crap and find another Nextel.
    > >
    > > "DevilsPGD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > >>In message <<[email protected]>> "Method to Madness"
    > >><[email protected]> did ramble:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    > >
    > > should
    > >
    > >>>not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the

    external
    > >>>display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the

    > >
    > > time.
    > >
    > >>Unless you wear the belt clip on your glasses, how do you plan to look
    > >>at the display? -- If you wear it on your belt, like it's designed to be
    > >>used, then this is an ideal design as it protects the face.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    > >
    > > phone?
    > >
    > >>Yes.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    > >
    > > had
    > >
    > >>>to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    > >
    > > saying.
    > >
    > >>Hold the phone in your hand, cup your hand around the phone and the
    > >>sound will reflect up towards you.
    > >>--
    > >>HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a

    pig
    > >
    > >
    > >






  8. #8
    Michael Farris
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...


    "Michael Farris" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]

    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing should
    > not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    > display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the time.
    > The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the phone?
    > What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I had
    > to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was saying.
    > All this hype about it and to find out it's complete crap pisses me off. Are
    > there any other phones out there that don't have these ridiculous problems?
    >
    > I think the i730 phone is a good phone

    the clip keep the external display when it is face in so you won't mess up the display on something. I pay another batt. cover for $6.00 than a screen






  9. #9
    CH
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    All Nextel flip phones are aligned "face-in" to the clip, not just the 730 -
    this is to protect the external display from scratches. Unless you are
    unusually flexible, it is not possible to see a display of a phone when it
    is clipped to your belt anyway. The very loud speaker is on the back of the
    phone to improve sound quality when the phone is in the belt clip. I
    suggest pressing the "upper" of the two volume buttons to increase volume,
    or placing the phone speaker down on a hard surface to improve volume when
    there is much background noise. I have had several speaker phones from both
    Verizon and Sprint and the Nextel i730 has been far and away the best I have
    used.



    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    should
    > not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    > display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the time.
    > The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    phone?
    > What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    had
    > to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    saying.
    > All this hype about it and to find out it's complete crap pisses me off.

    Are
    > there any other phones out there that don't have these ridiculous

    problems?
    >
    >






  10. #10
    admin too
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...


    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    should
    > not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    > display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the time.
    > The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    phone?
    > What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    had
    > to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    saying.
    > All this hype about it and to find out it's complete crap pisses me off.

    Are
    > there any other phones out there that don't have these ridiculous

    problems?
    >


    I strongly agree with both of your complaints. Idiots.





  11. #11
    admin too
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...


    "Method to Madness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I'm aware I don't have to talk with the clamshell open...but if I initiate

    a
    > call or start a direct, it usually stays open for the duration some times.
    > It's just plain ol' dumb being on the back. Being these are all "high"
    > speakers anyway, it's all directional which means it should be smack in
    > front of my face. I gotta see about another phone...this is ridiculous.


    I sometimes use the phone for impromptu conference calls and it's nice to
    have the phone open and see the status while you are using the speaker, like
    I did with the i1000. I guess I could turn it face down but that is stupid.





  12. #12
    bosshog
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    Ok here goes. With the damn thing clipped to your belt. Take it out of
    the clip to see the external display. That takes less time that trying
    to unclip it from your belt or your pants pocket. When you open the
    phone to select the person you want to DC after you beep them, CLOSE
    THE DAMN PHONE! this way the damn speaker is right where YOU want it.

    Finally, what fvcking idiot would spend money for a phone they hadnt
    gone down to check out yet?




    On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:26:32 -0400, "Method to Madness"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I use the beltclip for lots of things, not ONLY a beltclip. Don't put me in
    >jail for using it for other places. I clip it on my sway handle in my
    >vehicle and yea...hands free headset is plugged in and all. So in order to
    >take a friggin call I need to unclip the phone, see who it is, open the
    >phone and answer it. Lots of work for a "hands free" phone. It's just dump
    >covering up any external display in my opinion. They could have made a clip
    >which let that display come through...but why do some thing so easy to make
    >it useful?
    >
    >My god man, holding the phone in such a way to have the audible sound
    >reflect off my palm and shoot upward so I can hear it better is not a
    >solution for me. I don't want to "think" about how I'm holding the phone or
    >worry about how I'm holding it. I can't be the only person that thinks
    >putting a speaker on the rear of a phone is just a dumb idea. Try this at
    >home. Turn all your home theater speakers around so they're not facing you,
    >but point them at the wall so the sound will bounce back. This is what you
    >are telling me to do.
    >
    >My solution is to ditch this piece of crap and find another Nextel.
    >
    >"DevilsPGD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> In message <<[email protected]>> "Method to Madness"
    >> <[email protected]> did ramble:
    >>
    >> >I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    >should
    >> >not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the external
    >> >display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the

    >time.
    >>
    >> Unless you wear the belt clip on your glasses, how do you plan to look
    >> at the display? -- If you wear it on your belt, like it's designed to be
    >> used, then this is an ideal design as it protects the face.
    >>
    >> >The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    >phone?
    >>
    >> Yes.
    >>
    >> >What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times I

    >had
    >> >to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    >saying.
    >>
    >> Hold the phone in your hand, cup your hand around the phone and the
    >> sound will reflect up towards you.
    >> --
    >> HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a pig

    >





  13. #13
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    bosshog wrote:

    > Ok here goes. With the damn thing clipped to your belt. Take it out of
    > the clip to see the external display. That takes less time that trying
    > to unclip it from your belt or your pants pocket. When you open the
    > phone to select the person you want to DC after you beep them, CLOSE
    > THE DAMN PHONE! this way the damn speaker is right where YOU want it.
    >
    > Finally, what fvcking idiot would spend money for a phone they hadnt
    > gone down to check out yet?
    >



    ROFL. Thankyou....

    --





  14. #14
    J A Haynes
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    The clip thing kinda bothered me too. I don't really see the point of an
    external display if the freaking display is face-down in the belt clip.
    Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

    "bosshog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Ok here goes. With the damn thing clipped to your belt. Take it out of
    > the clip to see the external display. That takes less time that trying
    > to unclip it from your belt or your pants pocket. When you open the
    > phone to select the person you want to DC after you beep them, CLOSE
    > THE DAMN PHONE! this way the damn speaker is right where YOU want it.
    >
    > Finally, what fvcking idiot would spend money for a phone they hadnt
    > gone down to check out yet?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:26:32 -0400, "Method to Madness"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >I use the beltclip for lots of things, not ONLY a beltclip. Don't put me

    in
    > >jail for using it for other places. I clip it on my sway handle in my
    > >vehicle and yea...hands free headset is plugged in and all. So in order

    to
    > >take a friggin call I need to unclip the phone, see who it is, open the
    > >phone and answer it. Lots of work for a "hands free" phone. It's just

    dump
    > >covering up any external display in my opinion. They could have made a

    clip
    > >which let that display come through...but why do some thing so easy to

    make
    > >it useful?
    > >
    > >My god man, holding the phone in such a way to have the audible sound
    > >reflect off my palm and shoot upward so I can hear it better is not a
    > >solution for me. I don't want to "think" about how I'm holding the phone

    or
    > >worry about how I'm holding it. I can't be the only person that thinks
    > >putting a speaker on the rear of a phone is just a dumb idea. Try this at
    > >home. Turn all your home theater speakers around so they're not facing

    you,
    > >but point them at the wall so the sound will bounce back. This is what

    you
    > >are telling me to do.
    > >
    > >My solution is to ditch this piece of crap and find another Nextel.
    > >
    > >"DevilsPGD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]
    > >> In message <<[email protected]>> "Method to Madness"
    > >> <[email protected]> did ramble:
    > >>
    > >> >I have the i730 phone. Whoever was the idiot that designed this thing

    > >should
    > >> >not design another phone EVER. The god damn belt clip covers the

    external
    > >> >display. What good is an external display if it's covered up all the

    > >time.
    > >>
    > >> Unless you wear the belt clip on your glasses, how do you plan to look
    > >> at the display? -- If you wear it on your belt, like it's designed to

    be
    > >> used, then this is an ideal design as it protects the face.
    > >>
    > >> >The damn speaker when the clam shell is opened is on the back of the

    > >phone?
    > >>
    > >> Yes.
    > >>
    > >> >What moron put a speaker BEHIND the phone? There have been many times

    I
    > >had
    > >> >to turn the god damn phone around to hear what the other person was

    > >saying.
    > >>
    > >> Hold the phone in your hand, cup your hand around the phone and the
    > >> sound will reflect up towards you.
    > >> --
    > >> HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a

    pig
    > >

    >






  15. #15
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: The i730 sucks...

    In message <[email protected]> "J A Haynes"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The clip thing kinda bothered me too. I don't really see the point of an
    >external display if the freaking display is face-down in the belt clip.
    >Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?


    If it faced out, would you somehow manage to look at the phone while
    it's on your belt? Personally, I can't bend that way, nor would I try
    in public.

    The idea is that you'll take the phone off your belt, look at the
    display, then decide to answer or not. Without the display, have to
    open the flip (either answering the call in the process, or disabling
    the "Answer-with-flip" feature)


    --
    You're not as stupid as you look, or sound, or our best testing indicates.



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