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  1. #1
    Richard Ness
    Guest
    Do you 'bottom post' when you reply to an e-mail?
    If your answer is yes, you are the imbecile. ALL normal
    business correspondence is done with the reply on top.
    Thus, I prefer to do it the same way I do it umpteen times a day.
    And the way anyone with a clue does it... I don't see the execs
    I correspond with daily doing it and they are a who's who of the
    Internet. Most all I would consider experts. What do YOU do??

    Why should there be a different standard for Usenet vs normal
    e-mail? But, you do it your way, I'll CONTINUE to do it MY way.
    I totally disagree. It's MUCH easier reading the reply on top.

    Yes, I agree with you that snippage is good, but having to
    scroll down to read any reply is still a PITA.

    As to the "asshole" and the rest..... Words of an immature snob
    or just one of those Usenet cop types. Know it all f*@$#!

    FYI, I have and use Agent, I just don't use it for pure text messages.
    Express is easier to use for them. Agent for RARs, YENC, etc...

    WebTV and AOL..... maybe. I admit to some disdain myself (in
    some cases anyway). Comcast..... just grasping at straws there.
    Many savvy users use cable. Fast and not bad price. But, just an FYI
    I have both Qwest DSL and cable via a load balancing router, so the
    posting IP could have come from either. Would you have added Qwest
    to your imaginary hit list as well?

    Go take your pill(s) and chill....


    "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]t> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Richard Ness wrote:
    >
    > > I personally prefer top posting.
    > > I do it and I encourage everyone else to do to.
    > > So, go away...
    > >

    >
    > So what you are saying is you know better but do it anyway because
    > you do not care about anyone but yourself? What an asshole. Take a
    > look, even a moron can see that it complicates the reading and makes
    > a thread hard to follow and not trimming out the unnecessary text
    > makes it that much worse. There should be a block installed for AOL,
    > WebTV and Comcast users, and for anyone that uses Outlook Express
    > that you can only read Usenet and not post until you learn how to do
    > it. It figures you are positive for both of the above.
    >






    See More: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...




  2. #2
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

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    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:11:14 -0500
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.108.237.70
    X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
    X-Trace: lakeread01 1092503427 68.108.237.70 (Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:10:27 EDT)
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:10:27 EDT
    Organization: Cox Communications
    Xref: news.newshosting.com alt.cellular.nextel:15396

    Richard Ness wrote:

    > Seriously, huh? (you actually bottom reply to E-MAILS???)
    > Note the "E-MAIL" above, NOT Usenet. I don't know anyone
    > that replies to the bottom of an E-MAIL. EVERYONE replies at
    > the top and the messages go from newer (TOP) to older at
    > the bottom. Funny that daily messages from very knowledgeable,
    > VERY net savvy tech/network folks from real.com, microsoft.com,
    > amazon.com, L3, Wcom/MCI, GX, etc, etc, etc... are ALWAYS in
    > this top down format. We (all Internet professionals) are all wrong
    > and I guess YOU are right, huh??


    ROFL!! Tech savvy people at Real.com. Every one of those wipes
    should be put in jail for producing commputer choking, consealed
    spayware. Email is rarely as long as Usenet and I say yes, everyone
    you email with who top posts is either lazy or an idiot, OR they
    shake their head in discust and do it because you did it first and
    top posting is the only way to keep some congruency.

    It does not MATTER what someone does as a job, top posting in
    Usenet is WRONG. It's confusing and unnatural to read. I tell you
    what sparky, you goto a few professional Usenet groups like network
    admin groups, computer or scientific groups or the groups on
    professional private servers like at Gibson Reaserch, Spamcop or
    Microsoft and see howmany top posters are there. Then goto a
    moderated group and make a top post. You will get a warning once or
    twice and after that your posts will not even show up.




  3. #3
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    Richard Ness Spouted in an accusatory and overly defensive tone:

    > Do you 'bottom post' when you reply to an e-mail?


    Yes, after trimming what is unnecessary

    > If your answer is yes, you are the imbecile. ALL normal
    > business correspondence is done with the reply on top.


    Not by people who do it correctly. The one who obviously does
    not know that is calling someone who does know better an "imbecile".
    Perfect. Hmm, also an OE user, Well; that fits.

    > Thus, I prefer to do it the same way I do it umpteen times a day.
    > And the way anyone with a clue does it... I don't see the execs
    > I correspond with daily doing it and they are a who's who of the
    > Internet. Most all I would consider experts. What do YOU do??


    Then they aren't. Just because they hold a high paying job and
    have had the use of email a few years doesn't mean they know what
    they are doing. Goto a professional Usenet group and you will be
    flamed and berated, goto a moderated group and you will be deleted. I
    have been using the Internet and Usenet since 1989 and the problems
    started when AOLers started joining Usenet. It has nothing to do with
    what you do, it has to do with knowing the protocol for Usenet and
    having the common courtesy to stick to it. Some people, many times
    over paid executives; think they are better and above everyone else
    and do what they want regardless. It has nothing to do with clues, it
    has to do with knowing the accepted method and doing it that way.

    >
    > Why should there be a different standard for Usenet vs normal
    > e-mail? But, you do it your way, I'll CONTINUE to do it MY way.
    > I totally disagree. It's MUCH easier reading the reply on top.



    There isn't and it's NOT my way, it's the accepted correct way. Check
    any Usenet FAQ. As I said before, it's easier to flop your reply on
    top instead of after what you are replying to and to not trim excess
    text, so you do it not caring that most times no one can tell what
    you are replying to or what it looks like. That is what makes a
    perfect asshole, it's a good thing you don't find it easier to drive
    on the left instead of the right.

    >
    > Yes, I agree with you that snippage is good, but having to
    > scroll down to read any reply is still a PITA.


    If you had a semi decent client that started on the bottom, then you
    could easily start from the top of the post you are replying to and
    trim all else, assuming the person you are replying to is not a top
    poster as well. See the connection? Duhh!
    >
    > As to the "asshole" and the rest..... Words of an immature snob
    > or just one of those Usenet cop types. Know it all f*@$#!


    I'm far from a snob, if I weren't I would have called you an
    asshole right off, but I didn't. I asked to stop top posting, you
    proceeded to prove yourself by saying you did not care what the
    protocol was or what anyone believed, that you were doing it your way
    anyway. And I'm obviously not a Usenet cop, if I were this post
    wouldn't be here and you'd still be wondering why you didn't have any
    connection to the Internet. I said it first because your gibberish
    was too hard to attribute to a previous reply because you do not
    follow protocol. Umm, and immature would be a quality of doing it the
    way you think is easier rather than the accepted way to do it.

    >
    > FYI, I have and use Agent, I just don't use it for pure text messages.
    > Express is easier to use for them. Agent for RARs, YENC, etc...
    >


    As in the Sig file of someone who really is in the who's who of the
    Internet...
    ASCII... ._.
    on Usenet /v\
    ANYTHING ELSE /( )\
    IS BLOAT !! ^^ ^^

    > WebTV and AOL..... maybe. I admit to some disdain myself (in
    > some cases anyway). Comcast..... just grasping at straws there.
    > Many savvy users use cable. Fast and not bad price. But, just an FYI
    > I have both Qwest DSL and cable via a load balancing router, so the
    > posting IP could have come from either. Would you have added Qwest
    > to your imaginary hit list as well?


    No, Comcast is filled with known idiots and people who don't care, as
    long as they get what they want. Your only justification for top
    posting is the same justification you get from a 14 yo girl on AOL
    who uses ALL CAPS TO TYPE. I LIKE IT IT MAKES ME STAND OUT AND IT'S
    SOOOOOO MUCH EASIER 2 DO THAN TRYIN 2 DO ALL THAT SWITCHING AN STUFF!
    That doesn't make it right. Suggested reading:

    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/
    http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/docs/Usenet.html





  4. #4
    Richard Ness
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    Seriously, huh? (you actually bottom reply to E-MAILS???)
    Note the "E-MAIL" above, NOT Usenet. I don't know anyone
    that replies to the bottom of an E-MAIL. EVERYONE replies at
    the top and the messages go from newer (TOP) to older at
    the bottom. Funny that daily messages from very knowledgeable,
    VERY net savvy tech/network folks from real.com, microsoft.com,
    amazon.com, L3, Wcom/MCI, GX, etc, etc, etc... are ALWAYS in
    this top down format. We (all Internet professionals) are all wrong
    and I guess YOU are right, huh??

    BTW, what do YOU do??
    You must be the F*&%$#@ Internet god?? All hail!!!

    I'm not trying to convince you to change. Just to quit *****ing about
    others and just chill. You do it your way, me mine.

    Buh bye now...


    "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Richard Ness Spouted in an accusatory and overly defensive tone:
    >
    > > Do you 'bottom post' when you reply to an e-mail?

    >
    > Yes, after trimming what is unnecessary
    >
    > > If your answer is yes, you are the imbecile. ALL normal
    > > business correspondence is done with the reply on top.

    >
    > Not by people who do it correctly. The one who obviously does
    > not know that is calling someone who does know better an "imbecile".
    > Perfect. Hmm, also an OE user, Well; that fits.
    >
    > > Thus, I prefer to do it the same way I do it umpteen times a day.
    > > And the way anyone with a clue does it... I don't see the execs
    > > I correspond with daily doing it and they are a who's who of the
    > > Internet. Most all I would consider experts. What do YOU do??

    >
    > Then they aren't. Just because they hold a high paying job and
    > have had the use of email a few years doesn't mean they know what
    > they are doing. Goto a professional Usenet group and you will be
    > flamed and berated, goto a moderated group and you will be deleted. I
    > have been using the Internet and Usenet since 1989 and the problems
    > started when AOLers started joining Usenet. It has nothing to do with
    > what you do, it has to do with knowing the protocol for Usenet and
    > having the common courtesy to stick to it. Some people, many times
    > over paid executives; think they are better and above everyone else
    > and do what they want regardless. It has nothing to do with clues, it
    > has to do with knowing the accepted method and doing it that way.
    >
    > >
    > > Why should there be a different standard for Usenet vs normal
    > > e-mail? But, you do it your way, I'll CONTINUE to do it MY way.
    > > I totally disagree. It's MUCH easier reading the reply on top.

    >
    >
    > There isn't and it's NOT my way, it's the accepted correct way. Check
    > any Usenet FAQ. As I said before, it's easier to flop your reply on
    > top instead of after what you are replying to and to not trim excess
    > text, so you do it not caring that most times no one can tell what
    > you are replying to or what it looks like. That is what makes a
    > perfect asshole, it's a good thing you don't find it easier to drive
    > on the left instead of the right.
    >
    > >
    > > Yes, I agree with you that snippage is good, but having to
    > > scroll down to read any reply is still a PITA.

    >
    > If you had a semi decent client that started on the bottom, then you
    > could easily start from the top of the post you are replying to and
    > trim all else, assuming the person you are replying to is not a top
    > poster as well. See the connection? Duhh!
    > >
    > > As to the "asshole" and the rest..... Words of an immature snob
    > > or just one of those Usenet cop types. Know it all f*@$#!

    >
    > I'm far from a snob, if I weren't I would have called you an
    > asshole right off, but I didn't. I asked to stop top posting, you
    > proceeded to prove yourself by saying you did not care what the
    > protocol was or what anyone believed, that you were doing it your way
    > anyway. And I'm obviously not a Usenet cop, if I were this post
    > wouldn't be here and you'd still be wondering why you didn't have any
    > connection to the Internet. I said it first because your gibberish
    > was too hard to attribute to a previous reply because you do not
    > follow protocol. Umm, and immature would be a quality of doing it the
    > way you think is easier rather than the accepted way to do it.
    >
    > >
    > > FYI, I have and use Agent, I just don't use it for pure text messages.
    > > Express is easier to use for them. Agent for RARs, YENC, etc...
    > >

    >
    > As in the Sig file of someone who really is in the who's who of the
    > Internet...
    > ASCII... ._.
    > on Usenet /v\
    > ANYTHING ELSE /( )\
    > IS BLOAT !! ^^ ^^
    >
    > > WebTV and AOL..... maybe. I admit to some disdain myself (in
    > > some cases anyway). Comcast..... just grasping at straws there.
    > > Many savvy users use cable. Fast and not bad price. But, just an FYI
    > > I have both Qwest DSL and cable via a load balancing router, so the
    > > posting IP could have come from either. Would you have added Qwest
    > > to your imaginary hit list as well?

    >
    > No, Comcast is filled with known idiots and people who don't care, as
    > long as they get what they want. Your only justification for top
    > posting is the same justification you get from a 14 yo girl on AOL
    > who uses ALL CAPS TO TYPE. I LIKE IT IT MAKES ME STAND OUT AND IT'S
    > SOOOOOO MUCH EASIER 2 DO THAN TRYIN 2 DO ALL THAT SWITCHING AN STUFF!
    > That doesn't make it right. Suggested reading:
    >
    > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/
    > http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/docs/Usenet.html
    >
    >






  5. #5
    Richard Ness
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    Seriously, huh? (you actually bottom reply to E-MAILS???)
    Note the "E-MAIL" above, NOT Usenet. I don't know anyone
    that replies to the bottom of an E-MAIL. EVERYONE replies at
    the top and the messages go from newer (TOP) to older at
    the bottom. Funny that daily messages from very knowledgeable,
    VERY net savvy tech/network folks from real.com, microsoft.com,
    amazon.com, L3, Wcom/MCI, GX, etc, etc, etc... are ALWAYS in
    this top down format. We (all Internet professionals) are all wrong
    and I guess YOU are right, huh??

    BTW, what do YOU do??
    You must be the F*&%$#@ Internet god?? All hail!!!

    I'm not trying to convince you to change. Just to quit *****ing about
    others and just chill. You do it your way, me mine.

    Buh bye now...


    "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Richard Ness Spouted in an accusatory and overly defensive tone:
    >
    > > Do you 'bottom post' when you reply to an e-mail?

    >
    > Yes, after trimming what is unnecessary
    >
    > > If your answer is yes, you are the imbecile. ALL normal
    > > business correspondence is done with the reply on top.

    >
    > Not by people who do it correctly. The one who obviously does
    > not know that is calling someone who does know better an "imbecile".
    > Perfect. Hmm, also an OE user, Well; that fits.
    >
    > > Thus, I prefer to do it the same way I do it umpteen times a day.
    > > And the way anyone with a clue does it... I don't see the execs
    > > I correspond with daily doing it and they are a who's who of the
    > > Internet. Most all I would consider experts. What do YOU do??

    >
    > Then they aren't. Just because they hold a high paying job and
    > have had the use of email a few years doesn't mean they know what
    > they are doing. Goto a professional Usenet group and you will be
    > flamed and berated, goto a moderated group and you will be deleted. I
    > have been using the Internet and Usenet since 1989 and the problems
    > started when AOLers started joining Usenet. It has nothing to do with
    > what you do, it has to do with knowing the protocol for Usenet and
    > having the common courtesy to stick to it. Some people, many times
    > over paid executives; think they are better and above everyone else
    > and do what they want regardless. It has nothing to do with clues, it
    > has to do with knowing the accepted method and doing it that way.
    >
    > >
    > > Why should there be a different standard for Usenet vs normal
    > > e-mail? But, you do it your way, I'll CONTINUE to do it MY way.
    > > I totally disagree. It's MUCH easier reading the reply on top.

    >
    >
    > There isn't and it's NOT my way, it's the accepted correct way. Check
    > any Usenet FAQ. As I said before, it's easier to flop your reply on
    > top instead of after what you are replying to and to not trim excess
    > text, so you do it not caring that most times no one can tell what
    > you are replying to or what it looks like. That is what makes a
    > perfect asshole, it's a good thing you don't find it easier to drive
    > on the left instead of the right.
    >
    > >
    > > Yes, I agree with you that snippage is good, but having to
    > > scroll down to read any reply is still a PITA.

    >
    > If you had a semi decent client that started on the bottom, then you
    > could easily start from the top of the post you are replying to and
    > trim all else, assuming the person you are replying to is not a top
    > poster as well. See the connection? Duhh!
    > >
    > > As to the "asshole" and the rest..... Words of an immature snob
    > > or just one of those Usenet cop types. Know it all f*@$#!

    >
    > I'm far from a snob, if I weren't I would have called you an
    > asshole right off, but I didn't. I asked to stop top posting, you
    > proceeded to prove yourself by saying you did not care what the
    > protocol was or what anyone believed, that you were doing it your way
    > anyway. And I'm obviously not a Usenet cop, if I were this post
    > wouldn't be here and you'd still be wondering why you didn't have any
    > connection to the Internet. I said it first because your gibberish
    > was too hard to attribute to a previous reply because you do not
    > follow protocol. Umm, and immature would be a quality of doing it the
    > way you think is easier rather than the accepted way to do it.
    >
    > >
    > > FYI, I have and use Agent, I just don't use it for pure text messages.
    > > Express is easier to use for them. Agent for RARs, YENC, etc...
    > >

    >
    > As in the Sig file of someone who really is in the who's who of the
    > Internet...
    > ASCII... ._.
    > on Usenet /v\
    > ANYTHING ELSE /( )\
    > IS BLOAT !! ^^ ^^
    >
    > > WebTV and AOL..... maybe. I admit to some disdain myself (in
    > > some cases anyway). Comcast..... just grasping at straws there.
    > > Many savvy users use cable. Fast and not bad price. But, just an FYI
    > > I have both Qwest DSL and cable via a load balancing router, so the
    > > posting IP could have come from either. Would you have added Qwest
    > > to your imaginary hit list as well?

    >
    > No, Comcast is filled with known idiots and people who don't care, as
    > long as they get what they want. Your only justification for top
    > posting is the same justification you get from a 14 yo girl on AOL
    > who uses ALL CAPS TO TYPE. I LIKE IT IT MAKES ME STAND OUT AND IT'S
    > SOOOOOO MUCH EASIER 2 DO THAN TRYIN 2 DO ALL THAT SWITCHING AN STUFF!
    > That doesn't make it right. Suggested reading:
    >
    > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/
    > http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/docs/Usenet.html
    >
    >






  6. #6
    Trai' La' Trash
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    Richard Ness <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Do you 'bottom post' when you reply to an e-mail?
    > If your answer is yes, you are the imbecile. ALL normal
    > business correspondence is done with the reply on top.
    > Thus, I prefer to do it the same way I do it umpteen times a day.
    > And the way anyone with a clue does it... I don't see the execs
    > I correspond with daily doing it and they are a who's who of the
    > Internet. Most all I would consider experts. What do YOU do??
    >
    > Why should there be a different standard for Usenet vs normal
    > e-mail? But, you do it your way, I'll CONTINUE to do it MY way.
    > I totally disagree. It's MUCH easier reading the reply on top.
    >
    > Yes, I agree with you that snippage is good, but having to
    > scroll down to read any reply is still a PITA.
    >
    > As to the "asshole" and the rest..... Words of an immature snob
    > or just one of those Usenet cop types. Know it all f*@$#!
    >
    > FYI, I have and use Agent, I just don't use it for pure text messages.
    > Express is easier to use for them. Agent for RARs, YENC, etc...
    >
    > WebTV and AOL..... maybe. I admit to some disdain myself (in
    > some cases anyway). Comcast..... just grasping at straws there.
    > Many savvy users use cable. Fast and not bad price. But, just an FYI
    > I have both Qwest DSL and cable via a load balancing router, so the
    > posting IP could have come from either. Would you have added Qwest
    > to your imaginary hit list as well?
    >
    > Go take your pill(s) and chill....
    >

    EMAIL isn't a long running thread that some servers drop before we get to
    read it.
    I don't read right to left so why would I read bottom to top?
    This is a regular usenet group so common courtesy applies.

    But hey feel frre to have it your way and I will mine . After a few post you
    make and when I get tired of the way you post I'll just put you in the
    bucket. <plonk>





  7. #7
    MichiganHotBear
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    I tell you
    > what sparky, you goto a few professional Usenet groups like network
    > admin groups, computer or scientific groups or the groups on
    > professional private servers like at Gibson Reaserch, Spamcop or
    > Microsoft and see howmany top posters are there. Then goto a
    > moderated group and make a top post. You will get a warning once or
    > twice and after that your posts will not even show up.
    >


    How do you define professional? I know. A bunch of personality-deficient
    buffons with way too much time on their hands who are in desperate need of a
    life.

    It sure fits, doesn't it?

    MHB






  8. #8
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    MichiganHotBear wrote:

    > I tell you
    >
    >>what sparky, you goto a few professional Usenet groups like network
    >>admin groups, computer or scientific groups or the groups on
    >>professional private servers like at Gibson Reaserch, Spamcop or
    >>Microsoft and see howmany top posters are there. Then goto a
    >>moderated group and make a top post. You will get a warning once or
    >>twice and after that your posts will not even show up.
    >>

    >
    >
    > How do you define professional? I know. A bunch of personality-deficient
    > buffons with way too much time on their hands who are in desperate need of a
    > life.
    >
    > It sure fits, doesn't it?
    >
    > MHB
    >
    >
    >


    I'm not sure I understand you comment. By professional I mean
    the Usenet groups who's main purpose is for Network administrators
    for instance, to communicate about viruses, patches etc. The groups
    that are used daily by people on the job in the execution of their
    job, as opposed to a bunch of dillweeds and kids yakking about Nextel
    phones with, as you put it, "too much time on their hands." I might
    add that you too are as much a bufoon that is in a Nextel group, this
    is one of three hobby groups I read. The other nine are
    network/computer/job related for me, ie: I participate not just
    because they interest me, but because they go with the job.




  9. #9
    MichiganHotBear
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    Windsor (oh nerdy one),

    You hit the nail on the head, but you didn't realize it because you are
    wasting too much time being an elitist boob.

    This is a hobby group. I visit it because I have been a Nextel customer for
    many years and occasionally receive useful information. However, nothing
    bores me more to tears than having to listen to "know it all, know nothings"
    like yourself. If you enjoy hanging out with those that are so anal
    retentive that they won't talk to you if you don't "post properly", there
    are plenty of therapy groups for people with those kinds of personality
    deficiencies.

    As for me, I don't care whether you top post, bottom post, or inside out
    post as long as I get the information I desire.

    Therefore, you are dismissed. I know you will try harder to do it better
    next time.

    Kindly advise us when you are ready to try.

    MHB






  10. #10
    Richard Ness
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    My initial irritation was caused by:

    "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > iRadioChicago wrote:


    >Okay, can all of you go read the rules of how to post on Usenet
    >please?....


    Yea, I then got a bit carried away, but you sum it up nicely.
    I also don't care how anyone else posts and I don't try to tell them how to do it.
    I hope the individual in question just will STFU and just chill.

    No more from me on this. I've wasted enough of everyone's time. Sorry...

    "MichiganHotBear" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Windsor (oh nerdy one),
    >
    > You hit the nail on the head, but you didn't realize it because you are
    > wasting too much time being an elitist boob.
    >
    > This is a hobby group. I visit it because I have been a Nextel customer for
    > many years and occasionally receive useful information. However, nothing
    > bores me more to tears than having to listen to "know it all, know nothings"
    > like yourself. If you enjoy hanging out with those that are so anal
    > retentive that they won't talk to you if you don't "post properly", there
    > are plenty of therapy groups for people with those kinds of personality
    > deficiencies.
    >
    > As for me, I don't care whether you top post, bottom post, or inside out
    > post as long as I get the information I desire.
    >
    > Therefore, you are dismissed. I know you will try harder to do it better
    > next time.
    >
    > Kindly advise us when you are ready to try.
    >
    > MHB
    >
    >
    >






  11. #11
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    MichiganHotBear wrote:

    > Windsor (oh nerdy one),
    >
    > You hit the nail on the head, but you didn't realize it because you are
    > wasting too much time being an elitist boob.


    Name calling. A last refuge for a small mind....

    >
    > This is a hobby group. I visit it because I have been a Nextel customer for
    > many years and occasionally receive useful information.


    I said that. A bunch of bufoons with too much time on their
    hands, that of course was your statment.


    > However, nothing bores me more to tears than having to listen to "know it all, know nothings"
    > like yourself.


    More last refuge. You have no clue what I or anyone here may or
    maynot know about the subject. No one forces you to "listen" If you
    don't like it skip it and don't read it. You appear to enjoy being a
    trolling ass.

    > If you enjoy hanging out with those that are so anal
    > retentive that they won't talk to you if you don't "post properly", there
    > are plenty of therapy groups for people with those kinds of personality
    > deficiencies.


    You obviously have no clue what Usenets original purpose was for
    and you obviously have no clue of what professional groups are used
    for. There aren't any for people who work at McDonalds or Wal-Mart.
    It has nothing to do with the attitutes of the people posting and
    reading there, it has to do with the subject of the group. If you are
    a Linux admin you reall have little choice about doing so, many
    patches and upgrades are listed and or posted on Usenet groups. If
    you do not follow the protocol there you will be ousted and it's
    nothing to to with an attitude ti has to do with protocol. If net
    admin groups started looking like this one nothing could be found and
    get done. Further, these groups have as much as ten times the number
    of posts as hobby groups. I continue to civilly churn out information
    and you continually reply with immature personal attacks. Keep it up,
    it makes you look really good.

    >
    > As for me, I don't care whether you top post, bottom post, or inside out
    > post as long as I get the information I desire.


    You would if you were trying to get information easily and fast
    in a group that har 400+ posts every 12 hours.

    >
    > Therefore, you are dismissed. I know you will try harder to do it better
    > next time.


    Talk about someone acting like an elitist asshole, more so that I
    ever have.





  12. #12
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    Richard Ness wrote:

    > My initial irritation was caused by:
    >
    > "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    >>iRadioChicago wrote:

    >
    >
    >>Okay, can all of you go read the rules of how to post on Usenet
    >>please?....

    >
    >
    > Yea, I then got a bit carried away, but you sum it up nicely.
    > I also don't care how anyone else posts and I don't try to tell them how to do it.
    > I hope the individual in question just will STFU and just chill.
    >
    > No more from me on this. I've wasted enough of everyone's time. Sorry...
    >



    That was "exhibited irritation" breought on by being unable to
    easily see who was replying to what. I mean seriously, go back and
    look at the read messages and you will see what I am talking about.
    Whe you read down for two paragraphs and then have to go back up,
    especially when there are 3 or 4 quotes in there, which also goes
    back to trimming unneeded text. But unlike that other guy you refer
    to I DID say "please."




  13. #13
    MichiganHotBear
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    It would appear he didn't understand the meaning of "You're dismissed."
    Perhaps he'll work on that also.


    "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > MichiganHotBear wrote:
    >
    >> Windsor (oh nerdy one),
    >>
    >> You hit the nail on the head, but you didn't realize it because you are
    >> wasting too much time being an elitist boob.

    >
    > Name calling. A last refuge for a small mind....
    >
    >>
    >> This is a hobby group. I visit it because I have been a Nextel customer
    >> for
    >> many years and occasionally receive useful information.

    >
    > I said that. A bunch of bufoons with too much time on their hands,
    > that of course was your statment.
    >
    >
    >> However, nothing bores me more to tears than having to listen to "know it
    >> all, know nothings"
    >> like yourself.

    >
    > More last refuge. You have no clue what I or anyone here may or maynot
    > know about the subject. No one forces you to "listen" If you don't like it
    > skip it and don't read it. You appear to enjoy being a trolling ass.
    >
    >> If you enjoy hanging out with those that are so anal
    >> retentive that they won't talk to you if you don't "post properly",
    >> there
    >> are plenty of therapy groups for people with those kinds of personality
    >> deficiencies.

    >
    > You obviously have no clue what Usenets original purpose was for and
    > you obviously have no clue of what professional groups are used for. There
    > aren't any for people who work at McDonalds or Wal-Mart. It has nothing to
    > do with the attitutes of the people posting and reading there, it has to
    > do with the subject of the group. If you are a Linux admin you reall have
    > little choice about doing so, many patches and upgrades are listed and or
    > posted on Usenet groups. If you do not follow the protocol there you will
    > be ousted and it's nothing to to with an attitude ti has to do with
    > protocol. If net admin groups started looking like this one nothing could
    > be found and get done. Further, these groups have as much as ten times the
    > number of posts as hobby groups. I continue to civilly churn out
    > information and you continually reply with immature personal attacks. Keep
    > it up, it makes you look really good.
    >
    >>
    >> As for me, I don't care whether you top post, bottom post, or inside out
    >> post as long as I get the information I desire.

    >
    > You would if you were trying to get information easily and fast in a
    > group that har 400+ posts every 12 hours.
    >
    >>
    >> Therefore, you are dismissed. I know you will try harder to do it better
    >> next time.

    >
    > Talk about someone acting like an elitist asshole, more so that I ever
    > have.
    >
    >







  14. #14
    WindsorFox[SS]
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    MichiganHotBear wrote:

    > It would appear he didn't understand the meaning of "You're dismissed."
    > Perhaps he'll work on that also.
    >



    It would appear that you are not understanding the meaning of no
    one really cares whom you "dissmiss". Perhapse you will snag a clue
    and learn that top posting is incorrect and rectify that, and that OE
    is a simplistic and insecure application that should not be used by
    people who are computer illiterate. Of course why should we expect
    someone with your capacity to grasp either of those. Please dismiss
    yourself along with your apparent homoerotic handle....




  15. #15
    Richard Ness
    Guest

    Re: WinsorFox spouts, I answer...

    I'm not arguing that posting on the bottom of a Usenet post is what
    is considered normal. People whining about it and being a PITA
    know it all f*&# is my problem.

    And, the fact that you argue that this is also the way e-mail is done,
    is completely asinine.

    All Internet professionals are wrong and I guess YOU are right, huh??"

    You single out Real, hurl a couple of insults and ignore the rest. Most all of the
    people I do business with are in many cases C level individuals or high up in their
    respective companies. These are the "lazy idiots" you refer to? These ARE people
    that know what the right way is, set the standard and in ALL cases, the way they
    correspond internally, with each other and with their vendors. It's the way it's done.
    Internal communications within companies I have worked for.... Bell Canada, U S
    West, GTE, WorldCom/MCI, Comcast, are all done with newest on top, period!!
    But we ALL are "lazy and idiots??

    What I find sad and/or laughable is that you insist that the VAST majority is wrong.
    You insist that IT professionals, VP and C level people are all doing it wrong.

    And, that piddly little old insignificant piss ant you is.... right??

    Please pull out your anally inserted cranium.


    "WindsorFox[SS]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Richard Ness wrote:
    >
    > > Seriously, huh? (you actually bottom reply to E-MAILS???)
    > > Note the "E-MAIL" above, NOT Usenet. I don't know anyone
    > > that replies to the bottom of an E-MAIL. EVERYONE replies at
    > > the top and the messages go from newer (TOP) to older at
    > > the bottom. Funny that daily messages from very knowledgeable,
    > > VERY net savvy tech/network folks from real.com, microsoft.com,
    > > amazon.com, L3, Wcom/MCI, GX, etc, etc, etc... are ALWAYS in
    > > this top down format. We (all Internet professionals) are all wrong
    > > and I guess YOU are right, huh??

    >
    > ROFL!! Tech savvy people at Real.com. Every one of those wipes
    > should be put in jail for producing commputer choking, consealed
    > spayware. Email is rarely as long as Usenet and I say yes, everyone
    > you email with who top posts is either lazy or an idiot, OR they
    > shake their head in discust and do it because you did it first and
    > top posting is the only way to keep some congruency.
    >
    > It does not MATTER what someone does as a job, top posting in
    > Usenet is WRONG. It's confusing and unnatural to read. I tell you
    > what sparky, you goto a few professional Usenet groups like network
    > admin groups, computer or scientific groups or the groups on
    > professional private servers like at Gibson Reaserch, Spamcop or
    > Microsoft and see howmany top posters are there. Then goto a
    > moderated group and make a top post. You will get a warning once or
    > twice and after that your posts will not even show up.
    >






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