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- 11-27-2004, 02:48 AM #1NEXT ALERTGuest
"Joe Hayes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ci6pd.3363$Nw.2661@lakeread08...
> Some words of wisdom from "NEXT ALERT" :
>
> > (((Are you for real,))) or possibly you work
> > for or have stock in Motorola and or Nextel?
>
> > Gee, you must be a stock holder in one of these companies and or you
work
> > for them.
>
> > There's not a perception problem here other than you, rather you are no
> > different from the staff of both companies. Based on your wording, if I
> > did
> > not know better, your work for Nextel.
>
>
> So anyone who disagrees with your point of view is an employee of Nextel
or
> Motorola, or has some financial interest in the companies? Sheesh. Talk
> about naive. You post your bellyache rants in a public forum and then
have
> the nerve to denegrate people for responding?
<SNIP>
Wait a minute; I simply posted a story about my case and the first few post
that responded to my post start grilling me for posting it. "Are you for
real?" ...is not an inflammatory question, however hard that is for you to
accept. Rather the question implies that you don't necessarily grasp all
what is going on. And guess what, neither did I fully at the time of my
original post, as my case has now taken a HUGE turn since then. I say again,
GIVE ME A BREAK, and lighten up will you?
> > Based on your wording, if I
> > did
> > not know better, your work for Nextel.
The expertise or degree of shop talk with a person in groups is often an
indicator that you're not communicating with just anyone, rather you may
very well be dealing with a trained representative passing them self off as
just anyone. Nice try, but your not dumbing me down.
Anyone can respond I don't care; there was nothing in my post that stated
who could or could not respond. I only asked for constructive feedback, as I
know all to well how some people have anything but something helpful to say
and give you nothing but trouble in return, like you. When people attack my
post right out of the gate, I am naturally going to stand up and fight back
and that's what has happened here; it's simply defense, nothing more,
nothing less. Please let it go.
Over all, I have been nothing but a gentleman in my post, and in no way have
I been a smart-ass or otherwise, let alone name-calling. Stating nothing but
the facts of my case is NOT cause for trouble on any level. If people abject
to my post, then they don't have to read them.
Soon I will post a follow up, like I said, my case has taken a HUGE turn.
All thanks to a very thoughtful Nextel employer who uncovered some serious
findings that are not only about the phone that was sent to me, but also how
my phone repair records with Nextel were more then just mishandled. It
clearly explains why (still) no one with Nextel or Motorola has returned any
of my calls. However, now Nextel & Motorola will have to return calls they
may wish had never come their way. Will see.
For those of you who can't stand a cliffhanger, I leave you with this for
now.
The findings of a very helpful Nextel employer have resulted in a criminal
investigation currently headed by the FBI. As for the advice by some here to
turn my sub phone back in for yet another one that works properly, is not
going to happen now. As the phone is now being held for evidence.
No, the sub phone Motorola sent me was NOT used in a crime. However, if my
hunch is right, there are lots of these phones circulating out there,
complements of Motorola and there is no way of knowing if Nextel is involved
in it as well. No, I'm not referring to knock off phones either. If you BY
CHANCE have one of these phones, or even own other equipment by Motorola,
you defiantly will want to learn more, but then again not everyone cares,
until it directly effects them.
To Be Continued.
That is, as long as I'm not met with a gag order come Monday, even so, I
still think I should spill the beans because of the way my case was handled.
› See More: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
- 11-27-2004, 11:04 AM #2Richard NessGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
I think the 'issue' was with how agitated you got over a damn phone.
The easiest thing would have been to simply go back and get a different phone.
Keep going back and calmly and nicely keep requesting 'till you were satisfied.
But, you chose to get all worked up here and I'm quite sure with all the Nextel
people you were working with. Attitude is everything. (Yours is called "whining")
99% of the time, when you get all worked up about something, the desired result
very rarely is realized. The old saying "more flies with honey" is quite applicable.
It holds true in newsgroups also, bucko....
As to making a federal case out of this, my first impression is "get a life", or that you
are suffering from delusions of grandeur or that you just like to stir things up. But.......
I have to admit that I am a bit curious also. What nefarious plot have you uncovered?
Nextel and Motorola swapping phones with used ones and shipping the new ones to
China? Using phone repair parts in secret illicit nuclear weapons programs?
Motorola has a Mafia connection? Osama is now using your old phone?
My bet is that if this "gag order" is your excuse for not revealing this 'evil doing' in the next
few days, that this was very likely, shall we say, a work of pure fiction?
Film at 11.......
"NEXT ALERT" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Over all, I have been nothing but a gentleman in my post, and in no way have
> I been a smart-ass or otherwise, let alone name-calling. Stating nothing but
> the facts of my case is NOT cause for trouble on any level. If people abject
> to my post, then they don't have to read them.
>
> Soon I will post a follow up, like I said, my case has taken a HUGE turn.
> All thanks to a very thoughtful Nextel employer who uncovered some serious
> findings that are not only about the phone that was sent to me, but also how
> my phone repair records with Nextel were more then just mishandled. It
> clearly explains why (still) no one with Nextel or Motorola has returned any
> of my calls. However, now Nextel & Motorola will have to return calls they
> may wish had never come their way. Will see.
>
> For those of you who can't stand a cliffhanger, I leave you with this for
> now.
>
> The findings of a very helpful Nextel employer have resulted in a criminal
> investigation currently headed by the FBI. As for the advice by some here to
> turn my sub phone back in for yet another one that works properly, is not
> going to happen now. As the phone is now being held for evidence.
>
> No, the sub phone Motorola sent me was NOT used in a crime. However, if my
> hunch is right, there are lots of these phones circulating out there,
> complements of Motorola and there is no way of knowing if Nextel is involved
> in it as well. No, I'm not referring to knock off phones either. If you BY
> CHANCE have one of these phones, or even own other equipment by Motorola,
> you defiantly will want to learn more, but then again not everyone cares,
> until it directly effects them.
>
>
> To Be Continued.
>
>
> That is, as long as I'm not met with a gag order come Monday, even so, I
> still think I should spill the beans because of the way my case was handled.
>
>
- 11-27-2004, 02:31 PM #3NEXTEL USERGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
(1) I never cop an attitude with those who are trying to help me, never
have, never will, even if someone cops one with me over the phone as I would
simply exercise the power of the hook. But with email I find myself wanting
to stand my ground, for it does not require raising my voice, not to mention
I can take time out to think about what I'm trying to say.
(2) After the interview with the FBI agent, I agreed not to communicate any
further to Motorola or Nextel about this matter. Then right after that, I
was then asked if I was going to contact Nextel about this matter in regards
to getting another phone to use, or discontinuing my service. I said, "no."
as I would have to go into detail about my case as to why I can no longer
exchange my phone for another one and I have a two-year contract with Nextel
that I'm obligated too. It's best that way for now. I'll have to find
another phone somewhere else now; I guess the web is the best way, since
the next Nextel office is an eighty plus mile trip. Possibly I could do it
over the phone instead.
(3) I was teed off because I saw it as being ripped off. However I had no
idea just how truly fooled I actually was, and now (possibly) countless
others worldwide on all kinds of Motorola products have been deceived as
well. How far and wide the problem goes is unknown at this time. I can tell
you this much, you don't tell your customers one thing when you actually did
some completely different and very sneaky at that. Was it a disgruntle
employer and thus this matter is an isolated case? I don't think so, because
the deception looked high-tech on an old low-tech trick, meaning that
special equipment was required to perform the job, and most likely was
supplied by the company in question. However, if Motorola farms out their
repairs, then there's a good chance that Motorola may not be aware of such
practice. However, that would not fully explain incorrect records or record
tampering in regards to tracking information or at least why it has not
raised any red flags with Motorola, let alone Nextel. Remember, even though
I have never copped an atitude with either company, nor have I made them
aware of what I have learned, my calls have never-ever been returned. The
deletion/alteration of my records make it so that person within Nextel
cannot find any records on me in regards to my case, there by when they try
to pull up my records on this matter to call me, they can't, as my records
are no longer there, or never was for that matter. So there by Nextel sees
nothing to call me about as it must appear that the matter in question has
either (1) been solved, (2) never existed or, (3) they might think there
looking up the wrong customer. Whatever the case, who rally knows.
(4) After Monday or so, I hope to know more as to where I stand with what I
should or should not be sharing, period. Be it on the net or with others in
general. I am proud of myself for being able to keep a lid on this for now,
however, if I were a news reporter the lid would be blown clean clear off
the moment I had all of my facts together.
"Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think the 'issue' was with how agitated you got over a damn phone.
> The easiest thing would have been to simply go back and get a different
phone.
> Keep going back and calmly and nicely keep requesting 'till you were
satisfied.
> But, you chose to get all worked up here and I'm quite sure with all the
Nextel
> people you were working with. Attitude is everything. (Yours is called
"whining")
>
> 99% of the time, when you get all worked up about something, the desired
result
> very rarely is realized. The old saying "more flies with honey" is quite
applicable.
> It holds true in newsgroups also, bucko....
>
> As to making a federal case out of this, my first impression is "get a
life", or that you
> are suffering from delusions of grandeur or that you just like to stir
things up. But.......
>
> I have to admit that I am a bit curious also. What nefarious plot have you
uncovered?
> Nextel and Motorola swapping phones with used ones and shipping the new
ones to
> China? Using phone repair parts in secret illicit nuclear weapons
programs?
> Motorola has a Mafia connection? Osama is now using your old phone?
>
> My bet is that if this "gag order" is your excuse for not revealing this
'evil doing' in the next
> few days, that this was very likely, shall we say, a work of pure fiction?
>
> Film at 11.......
>
>
>
> "NEXT ALERT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > Over all, I have been nothing but a gentleman in my post, and in no way
have
> > I been a smart-ass or otherwise, let alone name-calling. Stating nothing
but
> > the facts of my case is NOT cause for trouble on any level. If people
abject
> > to my post, then they don't have to read them.
> >
> > Soon I will post a follow up, like I said, my case has taken a HUGE
turn.
> > All thanks to a very thoughtful Nextel employer who uncovered some
serious
> > findings that are not only about the phone that was sent to me, but also
how
> > my phone repair records with Nextel were more then just mishandled. It
> > clearly explains why (still) no one with Nextel or Motorola has returned
any
> > of my calls. However, now Nextel & Motorola will have to return calls
they
> > may wish had never come their way. Will see.
> >
> > For those of you who can't stand a cliffhanger, I leave you with this
for
> > now.
> >
> > The findings of a very helpful Nextel employer have resulted in a
criminal
> > investigation currently headed by the FBI. As for the advice by some
here to
> > turn my sub phone back in for yet another one that works properly, is
not
> > going to happen now. As the phone is now being held for evidence.
> >
> > No, the sub phone Motorola sent me was NOT used in a crime. However, if
my
> > hunch is right, there are lots of these phones circulating out there,
> > complements of Motorola and there is no way of knowing if Nextel is
involved
> > in it as well. No, I'm not referring to knock off phones either. If you
BY
> > CHANCE have one of these phones, or even own other equipment by
Motorola,
> > you defiantly will want to learn more, but then again not everyone
cares,
> > until it directly effects them.
> >
> >
> > To Be Continued.
> >
> >
> > That is, as long as I'm not met with a gag order come Monday, even so, I
> > still think I should spill the beans because of the way my case was
handled.
> >
> >
>
>
- 11-27-2004, 06:39 PM #4Joe HayesGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
I think the whole FBI investigation story is just a charade you concoted
because you're starved for attention. Either that or you're just
delusional. No organization would waste their time investigating something
so trivial as a used cell phone. And you have no facts whatsoever, only
hearsay.
"NEXTEL USER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> (1) I never cop an attitude with those who are trying to help me, never
> have, never will, even if someone cops one with me over the phone as I
> would
> simply exercise the power of the hook. But with email I find myself
> wanting
> to stand my ground, for it does not require raising my voice, not to
> mention
> I can take time out to think about what I'm trying to say.
>
> (2) After the interview with the FBI agent, I agreed not to communicate
> any
> further to Motorola or Nextel about this matter. Then right after that, I
> was then asked if I was going to contact Nextel about this matter in
> regards
> to getting another phone to use, or discontinuing my service. I said,
> "no."
> as I would have to go into detail about my case as to why I can no longer
> exchange my phone for another one and I have a two-year contract with
> Nextel
> that I'm obligated too. It's best that way for now. I'll have to find
> another phone somewhere else now; I guess the web is the best way, since
> the next Nextel office is an eighty plus mile trip. Possibly I could do it
> over the phone instead.
>
> (3) I was teed off because I saw it as being ripped off. However I had no
> idea just how truly fooled I actually was, and now (possibly) countless
> others worldwide on all kinds of Motorola products have been deceived as
> well. How far and wide the problem goes is unknown at this time. I can
> tell
> you this much, you don't tell your customers one thing when you actually
> did
> some completely different and very sneaky at that. Was it a disgruntle
> employer and thus this matter is an isolated case? I don't think so,
> because
> the deception looked high-tech on an old low-tech trick, meaning that
> special equipment was required to perform the job, and most likely was
> supplied by the company in question. However, if Motorola farms out their
> repairs, then there's a good chance that Motorola may not be aware of such
> practice. However, that would not fully explain incorrect records or
> record
> tampering in regards to tracking information or at least why it has not
> raised any red flags with Motorola, let alone Nextel. Remember, even
> though
> I have never copped an atitude with either company, nor have I made them
> aware of what I have learned, my calls have never-ever been returned. The
> deletion/alteration of my records make it so that person within Nextel
> cannot find any records on me in regards to my case, there by when they
> try
> to pull up my records on this matter to call me, they can't, as my records
> are no longer there, or never was for that matter. So there by Nextel sees
> nothing to call me about as it must appear that the matter in question has
> either (1) been solved, (2) never existed or, (3) they might think there
> looking up the wrong customer. Whatever the case, who rally knows.
>
> (4) After Monday or so, I hope to know more as to where I stand with what
> I
> should or should not be sharing, period. Be it on the net or with others
> in
> general. I am proud of myself for being able to keep a lid on this for
> now,
> however, if I were a news reporter the lid would be blown clean clear off
> the moment I had all of my facts together.
>
>
>
>
> "Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I think the 'issue' was with how agitated you got over a damn phone.
>> The easiest thing would have been to simply go back and get a different
> phone.
>> Keep going back and calmly and nicely keep requesting 'till you were
> satisfied.
>> But, you chose to get all worked up here and I'm quite sure with all the
> Nextel
>> people you were working with. Attitude is everything. (Yours is called
> "whining")
>>
>> 99% of the time, when you get all worked up about something, the desired
> result
>> very rarely is realized. The old saying "more flies with honey" is quite
> applicable.
>> It holds true in newsgroups also, bucko....
>>
>> As to making a federal case out of this, my first impression is "get a
> life", or that you
>> are suffering from delusions of grandeur or that you just like to stir
> things up. But.......
>>
>> I have to admit that I am a bit curious also. What nefarious plot have
>> you
> uncovered?
>> Nextel and Motorola swapping phones with used ones and shipping the new
> ones to
>> China? Using phone repair parts in secret illicit nuclear weapons
> programs?
>> Motorola has a Mafia connection? Osama is now using your old phone?
>>
>> My bet is that if this "gag order" is your excuse for not revealing this
> 'evil doing' in the next
>> few days, that this was very likely, shall we say, a work of pure
>> fiction?
>>
>> Film at 11.......
>>
>>
>>
>> "NEXT ALERT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >
>> > Over all, I have been nothing but a gentleman in my post, and in no way
> have
>> > I been a smart-ass or otherwise, let alone name-calling. Stating
>> > nothing
> but
>> > the facts of my case is NOT cause for trouble on any level. If people
> abject
>> > to my post, then they don't have to read them.
>> >
>> > Soon I will post a follow up, like I said, my case has taken a HUGE
> turn.
>> > All thanks to a very thoughtful Nextel employer who uncovered some
> serious
>> > findings that are not only about the phone that was sent to me, but
>> > also
> how
>> > my phone repair records with Nextel were more then just mishandled. It
>> > clearly explains why (still) no one with Nextel or Motorola has
>> > returned
> any
>> > of my calls. However, now Nextel & Motorola will have to return calls
> they
>> > may wish had never come their way. Will see.
>> >
>> > For those of you who can't stand a cliffhanger, I leave you with this
> for
>> > now.
>> >
>> > The findings of a very helpful Nextel employer have resulted in a
> criminal
>> > investigation currently headed by the FBI. As for the advice by some
> here to
>> > turn my sub phone back in for yet another one that works properly, is
> not
>> > going to happen now. As the phone is now being held for evidence.
>> >
>> > No, the sub phone Motorola sent me was NOT used in a crime. However, if
> my
>> > hunch is right, there are lots of these phones circulating out there,
>> > complements of Motorola and there is no way of knowing if Nextel is
> involved
>> > in it as well. No, I'm not referring to knock off phones either. If you
> BY
>> > CHANCE have one of these phones, or even own other equipment by
> Motorola,
>> > you defiantly will want to learn more, but then again not everyone
> cares,
>> > until it directly effects them.
>> >
>> >
>> > To Be Continued.
>> >
>> >
>> > That is, as long as I'm not met with a gag order come Monday, even so,
>> > I
>> > still think I should spill the beans because of the way my case was
> handled.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
- 11-27-2004, 11:52 PM #5NEXTEL USERGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
"Joe Hayes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:179qd.4437$Nw.4095@lakeread08...
> I think the whole FBI investigation story is just a charade you concoted
> because you're starved for attention. Either that or you're just
> delusional. No organization would waste their time investigating
something
> so trivial as a used cell phone. And you have no facts whatsoever, only
> hearsay.
>
You should read all of my post, not some of them, as I do not want to cut
and paste my posts over and over to each person's reply who is not fully
informed. In simple, the matter is no longer about a used cell phone, (that
post is five days old) rather it's about alleged fraud and deception to
Nextel and Motorola customers, possibly on a grand scale. Since your not
reading all of the posts, (or possibly you're not getting all of them) it's
no longer just about cell phones as Motorola makes all kinds of stuff from
satellite communications to Free Scale Semiconductors to Homeland Security
Solutions Technology, Homologation Engineering, their even into making
Portable Energy Systems and lots more, far more than what most people think
Motorola's into. So... hopefully what happened to me is an isolated case and
not Motorola's company as a whole. In other areas of commerce, many have
been arrested, fined and sentence to jail for what was done to me. So, I'm
pretty sure that just because Motorola is in the communication industry that
by any means does it get them off of the hook.
By the way, I do in fact have proof, all thanks to Motorola, Nextel, FedEx,
the phone that was sent back to me, three eyewitnesses, and macro
photography as well. I will post those pics as well, should and when the
times comes, for seeing is believing, well at least it use to be that way.
>
> "NEXTEL USER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > (1) I never cop an attitude with those who are trying to help me, never
> > have, never will, even if someone cops one with me over the phone as I
> > would
> > simply exercise the power of the hook. But with email I find myself
> > wanting
> > to stand my ground, for it does not require raising my voice, not to
> > mention
> > I can take time out to think about what I'm trying to say.
> >
> > (2) After the interview with the FBI agent, I agreed not to communicate
> > any
> > further to Motorola or Nextel about this matter. Then right after that,
I
> > was then asked if I was going to contact Nextel about this matter in
> > regards
> > to getting another phone to use, or discontinuing my service. I said,
> > "no."
> > as I would have to go into detail about my case as to why I can no
longer
> > exchange my phone for another one and I have a two-year contract with
> > Nextel
> > that I'm obligated too. It's best that way for now. I'll have to find
> > another phone somewhere else now; I guess the web is the best way,
since
> > the next Nextel office is an eighty plus mile trip. Possibly I could do
it
> > over the phone instead.
> >
> > (3) I was teed off because I saw it as being ripped off. However I had
no
> > idea just how truly fooled I actually was, and now (possibly) countless
> > others worldwide on all kinds of Motorola products have been deceived as
> > well. How far and wide the problem goes is unknown at this time. I can
> > tell
> > you this much, you don't tell your customers one thing when you actually
> > did
> > some completely different and very sneaky at that. Was it a disgruntle
> > employer and thus this matter is an isolated case? I don't think so,
> > because
> > the deception looked high-tech on an old low-tech trick, meaning that
> > special equipment was required to perform the job, and most likely was
> > supplied by the company in question. However, if Motorola farms out
their
> > repairs, then there's a good chance that Motorola may not be aware of
such
> > practice. However, that would not fully explain incorrect records or
> > record
> > tampering in regards to tracking information or at least why it has not
> > raised any red flags with Motorola, let alone Nextel. Remember, even
> > though
> > I have never copped an atitude with either company, nor have I made them
> > aware of what I have learned, my calls have never-ever been returned.
The
> > deletion/alteration of my records make it so that person within Nextel
> > cannot find any records on me in regards to my case, there by when they
> > try
> > to pull up my records on this matter to call me, they can't, as my
records
> > are no longer there, or never was for that matter. So there by Nextel
sees
> > nothing to call me about as it must appear that the matter in question
has
> > either (1) been solved, (2) never existed or, (3) they might think there
> > looking up the wrong customer. Whatever the case, who rally knows.
> >
> > (4) After Monday or so, I hope to know more as to where I stand with
what
> > I
> > should or should not be sharing, period. Be it on the net or with others
> > in
> > general. I am proud of myself for being able to keep a lid on this for
> > now,
> > however, if I were a news reporter the lid would be blown clean clear
off
> > the moment I had all of my facts together.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I think the 'issue' was with how agitated you got over a damn phone.
> >> The easiest thing would have been to simply go back and get a different
> > phone.
> >> Keep going back and calmly and nicely keep requesting 'till you were
> > satisfied.
> >> But, you chose to get all worked up here and I'm quite sure with all
the
> > Nextel
> >> people you were working with. Attitude is everything. (Yours is called
> > "whining")
> >>
> >> 99% of the time, when you get all worked up about something, the
desired
> > result
> >> very rarely is realized. The old saying "more flies with honey" is
quite
> > applicable.
> >> It holds true in newsgroups also, bucko....
> >>
> >> As to making a federal case out of this, my first impression is "get a
> > life", or that you
> >> are suffering from delusions of grandeur or that you just like to stir
> > things up. But.......
> >>
> >> I have to admit that I am a bit curious also. What nefarious plot have
> >> you
> > uncovered?
> >> Nextel and Motorola swapping phones with used ones and shipping the new
> > ones to
> >> China? Using phone repair parts in secret illicit nuclear weapons
> > programs?
> >> Motorola has a Mafia connection? Osama is now using your old phone?
> >>
> >> My bet is that if this "gag order" is your excuse for not revealing
this
> > 'evil doing' in the next
> >> few days, that this was very likely, shall we say, a work of pure
> >> fiction?
> >>
> >> Film at 11.......
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "NEXT ALERT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Over all, I have been nothing but a gentleman in my post, and in no
way
> > have
> >> > I been a smart-ass or otherwise, let alone name-calling. Stating
> >> > nothing
> > but
> >> > the facts of my case is NOT cause for trouble on any level. If people
> > abject
> >> > to my post, then they don't have to read them.
> >> >
> >> > Soon I will post a follow up, like I said, my case has taken a HUGE
> > turn.
> >> > All thanks to a very thoughtful Nextel employer who uncovered some
> > serious
> >> > findings that are not only about the phone that was sent to me, but
> >> > also
> > how
> >> > my phone repair records with Nextel were more then just mishandled.
It
> >> > clearly explains why (still) no one with Nextel or Motorola has
> >> > returned
> > any
> >> > of my calls. However, now Nextel & Motorola will have to return calls
> > they
> >> > may wish had never come their way. Will see.
> >> >
> >> > For those of you who can't stand a cliffhanger, I leave you with this
> > for
> >> > now.
> >> >
> >> > The findings of a very helpful Nextel employer have resulted in a
> > criminal
> >> > investigation currently headed by the FBI. As for the advice by some
> > here to
> >> > turn my sub phone back in for yet another one that works properly, is
> > not
> >> > going to happen now. As the phone is now being held for evidence.
> >> >
> >> > No, the sub phone Motorola sent me was NOT used in a crime. However,
if
> > my
> >> > hunch is right, there are lots of these phones circulating out there,
> >> > complements of Motorola and there is no way of knowing if Nextel is
> > involved
> >> > in it as well. No, I'm not referring to knock off phones either. If
you
> > BY
> >> > CHANCE have one of these phones, or even own other equipment by
> > Motorola,
> >> > you defiantly will want to learn more, but then again not everyone
> > cares,
> >> > until it directly effects them.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > To Be Continued.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > That is, as long as I'm not met with a gag order come Monday, even
so,
> >> > I
> >> > still think I should spill the beans because of the way my case was
> > handled.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
- 11-28-2004, 10:53 AM #6Richard NessGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
We all read your posts.
And I'd be willing to bet, most, if not all came to the same conclusion.
What a HUGE load of bull ****.
I'm seriously doubtful that LOCAL law enforcement, much less the FBI
would give such a trivial matter, more than a second of their time.
They all have better things to do than deal with your used phone whining.
As I said before, you will cry "gag order" and fail to prove any of this.
Put up or shut up.
I'll bet you don't...
"NEXTEL USER" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> You should read all of my post, not some of them, as I do not want to cut
> and paste my posts over and over to each person's reply who is not fully
> informed. In simple, the matter is no longer about a used cell phone, (that
> post is five days old) rather it's about alleged fraud and deception to
> Nextel and Motorola customers, possibly on a grand scale. Since your not
> reading all of the posts, (or possibly you're not getting all of them) it's
> no longer just about cell phones as Motorola makes all kinds of stuff from
> satellite communications to Free Scale Semiconductors to Homeland Security
> Solutions Technology, Homologation Engineering, their even into making
> Portable Energy Systems and lots more, far more than what most people think
> Motorola's into. So... hopefully what happened to me is an isolated case and
> not Motorola's company as a whole. In other areas of commerce, many have
> been arrested, fined and sentence to jail for what was done to me. So, I'm
> pretty sure that just because Motorola is in the communication industry that
> by any means does it get them off of the hook.
>
> By the way, I do in fact have proof, all thanks to Motorola, Nextel, FedEx,
> the phone that was sent back to me, three eyewitnesses, and macro
> photography as well. I will post those pics as well, should and when the
> times comes, for seeing is believing, well at least it use to be that way.
>
- 11-28-2004, 01:48 PM #7MOTOROLA USERGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
Man you sure missed the boat on what and why my case was referred to the
FBI. Either you're not getting all of my posts, or you're to lazy to
actually read them in there entirety, and at speed in which you can not only
(fully) comprehend what is being said, but (retain) what you have read. You
may want to try www.usenet.com rather then using your Outlook Express to
peruse newsgroups in finding (all) of my post.
And yes, FRAUD is taken very seriously by law local law enforcement, just
that this case became a federal one because of the operation crossing state
lines. I don't call the shots; I just do as I am told to do. This shows just
how little you actually know and understand when national law enforcement
comes into play, verses state/local law enforcement issues. Example: If you
commit a crime using the postal service, (known as, mail fraud) it's a
federal crime, as the postal service crosses state lines, thus making it,
"A Federal Crime." Not to mention using government buildings to commit the
crime.
You might want to scratch your ole noggin a little bit longer next time
before you respond, aside from the fact that responding when were all
frazzled up clouds our judgment.
For god's sakes, I moved on with the old warranty issue, can't you catch up
with the current issue? Please let it go. Please. Otherwise I will have to
ignore your ranting, of which I should have done in the first place, but did
not, in the name of keeping this post on track.
Please contribute to the cause in a constructive way, or at least hold your
tongue until you have all of the facts straight. Again I say, stay away from
jury duty when and (if) possible.
Thanks in advance.
"Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We all read your posts.
> And I'd be willing to bet, most, if not all came to the same conclusion.
>
> What a HUGE load of bull ****.
>
> I'm seriously doubtful that LOCAL law enforcement, much less the FBI
> would give such a trivial matter, more than a second of their time.
> They all have better things to do than deal with your used phone whining.
>
> As I said before, you will cry "gag order" and fail to prove any of this.
>
> Put up or shut up.
>
> I'll bet you don't...
>
>
>
> "NEXTEL USER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> > You should read all of my post, not some of them, as I do not want to
cut
> > and paste my posts over and over to each person's reply who is not fully
> > informed. In simple, the matter is no longer about a used cell phone,
(that
> > post is five days old) rather it's about alleged fraud and deception to
> > Nextel and Motorola customers, possibly on a grand scale. Since your not
> > reading all of the posts, (or possibly you're not getting all of them)
it's
> > no longer just about cell phones as Motorola makes all kinds of stuff
from
> > satellite communications to Free Scale Semiconductors to Homeland
Security
> > Solutions Technology, Homologation Engineering, their even into making
> > Portable Energy Systems and lots more, far more than what most people
think
> > Motorola's into. So... hopefully what happened to me is an isolated case
and
> > not Motorola's company as a whole. In other areas of commerce, many have
> > been arrested, fined and sentence to jail for what was done to me. So,
I'm
> > pretty sure that just because Motorola is in the communication industry
that
> > by any means does it get them off of the hook.
> >
> > By the way, I do in fact have proof, all thanks to Motorola, Nextel,
FedEx,
> > the phone that was sent back to me, three eyewitnesses, and macro
> > photography as well. I will post those pics as well, should and when the
> > times comes, for seeing is believing, well at least it use to be that
way.
> >
>
>
>
- 11-29-2004, 03:48 PM #8dep_bluemanGuest
Re: WARNING - ALERT TO ALL NEXTEL USERS: 11/27/2004 / Cliffhanger Enclosed. . .
"... Motorola, at its option, will at no charge repair, replace or
refund the purchase price of any Products, Accessories or Software
that does not conform to this warranty. We may use functionally
equivalent reconditioned/refurbished/pre-owned or new Products,
Accessories or parts. No data, software or applications added to your
Product, Accessory or Software, including but not limited to personal
contacts, games and ringer tones, will be reinstalled. To avoid losing
such data, software and applications please create a back up prior to
requesting service. ..."
"MOTOROLA USER" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Man you sure missed the boat on what and why my case was referred to the
> FBI. Either you're not getting all of my posts, or you're to lazy to
> actually read them in there entirety, and at speed in which you can not only
> (fully) comprehend what is being said, but (retain) what you have read. You
> may want to try www.usenet.com rather then using your Outlook Express to
> peruse newsgroups in finding (all) of my post.
>
> And yes, FRAUD is taken very seriously by law local law enforcement, just
> that this case became a federal one because of the operation crossing state
> lines. I don't call the shots; I just do as I am told to do. This shows just
> how little you actually know and understand when national law enforcement
> comes into play, verses state/local law enforcement issues. Example: If you
> commit a crime using the postal service, (known as, mail fraud) it's a
> federal crime, as the postal service crosses state lines, thus making it,
> "A Federal Crime." Not to mention using government buildings to commit the
> crime.
>
> You might want to scratch your ole noggin a little bit longer next time
> before you respond, aside from the fact that responding when were all
> frazzled up clouds our judgment.
>
> For god's sakes, I moved on with the old warranty issue, can't you catch up
> with the current issue? Please let it go. Please. Otherwise I will have to
> ignore your ranting, of which I should have done in the first place, but did
> not, in the name of keeping this post on track.
>
> Please contribute to the cause in a constructive way, or at least hold your
> tongue until you have all of the facts straight. Again I say, stay away from
> jury duty when and (if) possible.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> "Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > We all read your posts.
> > And I'd be willing to bet, most, if not all came to the same conclusion.
> >
> > What a HUGE load of bull ****.
> >
> > I'm seriously doubtful that LOCAL law enforcement, much less the FBI
> > would give such a trivial matter, more than a second of their time.
> > They all have better things to do than deal with your used phone whining.
> >
> > As I said before, you will cry "gag order" and fail to prove any of this.
> >
> > Put up or shut up.
> >
> > I'll bet you don't...
> >
> >
> >
> > "NEXTEL USER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > You should read all of my post, not some of them, as I do not want to
> cut
> > > and paste my posts over and over to each person's reply who is not fully
> > > informed. In simple, the matter is no longer about a used cell phone,
> (that
> > > post is five days old) rather it's about alleged fraud and deception to
> > > Nextel and Motorola customers, possibly on a grand scale. Since your not
> > > reading all of the posts, (or possibly you're not getting all of them)
> it's
> > > no longer just about cell phones as Motorola makes all kinds of stuff
> from
> > > satellite communications to Free Scale Semiconductors to Homeland
> Security
> > > Solutions Technology, Homologation Engineering, their even into making
> > > Portable Energy Systems and lots more, far more than what most people
> think
> > > Motorola's into. So... hopefully what happened to me is an isolated case
> and
> > > not Motorola's company as a whole. In other areas of commerce, many have
> > > been arrested, fined and sentence to jail for what was done to me. So,
> I'm
> > > pretty sure that just because Motorola is in the communication industry
> that
> > > by any means does it get them off of the hook.
> > >
> > > By the way, I do in fact have proof, all thanks to Motorola, Nextel,
> FedEx,
> > > the phone that was sent back to me, three eyewitnesses, and macro
> > > photography as well. I will post those pics as well, should and when the
> > > times comes, for seeing is believing, well at least it use to be that
> way.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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