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  1. #1
    John Eckart
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    Anyone know if they're going to come out with phones that work on both networks, for better coverage?

    And how about Sprint and Nextel users being able to PTT each other? Will that happen?



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    O/Siris
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Anyone know if they're going to come out with phones that work on both networks, for better coverage?
    >
    > And how about Sprint and Nextel users being able to PTT each other? Will that happen?
    >


    You are WAY too early asking these questions. The companies won't even
    begin to merge until FCC and SEC (if not others) give their approval of
    the merger.

    I'm only guessing, but I'd guess that nothing "common" is going to
    happen this year.

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  3. #3
    Jeremy
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?


    "John Eckart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    Anyone know if they're going to come out with phones that work on both
    networks, for better coverage?

    And how about Sprint and Nextel users being able to PTT each other? Will
    that happen?

    They must continue to operate autonomously until they merge. There will be
    no merger of technology until afterwards, and I understand that the Nextel
    system is considered to be aging technology, which is one of the reasons
    that Nextel agreed to the merger. While no one knows for certain, the odds
    are that they will phase out the Nextel iden system over time. It would
    make no sense to operate two different networks.

    That process will take years--no need for anyone to panic.





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    sniper0981
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    i have seen pics of the new phones Nextel is working on. none of them have been said of working with Sprint Ready Link. there is no word on when, and if, Nextel and Sprint 2 way will work together.



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    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?

    John Eckart wrote:
    > Anyone know if they're going to come out with phones that work on both networks, for better coverage?


    Well, that's a loaded question. For starters, the merger isn't
    finalized and si subject to regulatory approval. It would be a serious
    waste if these phones were designed and built and the merger deal fell
    through.

    Second, there seem to be few places that Sprint doesnt' cover bu Nextel
    does. Even so, the drastic change in voice quality as one switches from
    one network to another will be very jarring at best.

    Third, if the merger compeletes, it's very likely that Sprint will have
    access to Nextel's tower infrastructure. Thus it would serve everyone
    better to put CDMA gear on those same towers in those areas where
    coverage doesn't already overlap. This would make having a dual-mode
    handset a moot point.

    Finally, Sprint has made it clear in its merger proposal that over time,
    it wants to move everyone over to the EV-DO platform and while they plan
    on keeping iDEN alive "for some time," eventually it might go away as
    people upgrade their handsets. iDEN is an okay technology, but it was
    designed for half duplex (walkie-talkie) communication more than
    cellular service, so it does cellular very inefficiently. Capacity is
    limited and the FCC is hot to get Nextel out of the SMR band as fast as
    they can, so I doubt that they would want to prolong iDEN's use any
    longer than they have to.

    Funny how Nextel's history is rather sordid in that they built their
    network by buying up old analog two-way radio companies and then forcing
    the old customers, sometimes through dirty tricks, to dump their old
    (and expensive) analog gear and switch to digital Nextel gear. Now it
    seems that Sprint has got work to do in convincing those same customers
    to ditch their Nextel gear in favor of CDMA equipment.

    > And how about Sprint and Nextel users being able to PTT each other? Will that happen?


    It could happen theoretically. Nextel did/does possess the technology
    to gate PTT between iDEN and CDMA carriers, so it could work out. But
    again, the merger has to actually go through first.

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  6. #6
    JDa
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?


    O/Siris wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >
    >>Anyone know if they're going to come out with phones that work on both networks, for better coverage?
    >>
    >>And how about Sprint and Nextel users being able to PTT each other? Will that happen?
    >>

    >
    >
    > You are WAY too early asking these questions. The companies won't even
    > begin to merge until FCC and SEC (if not others) give their approval of
    > the merger.


    Don't count on it, Nextel has just put out a brochure, here in Atlanta,
    for the Motorola V505 camera phone. This is the same phone that AT&T
    and Cingular sell. The Direct Connect sales rep I talked to said his
    info was that it ran on the Sprint network, but was being administered
    by Nextel.
    They are both acting like its a done deal period.



    >
    > I'm only guessing, but I'd guess that nothing "common" is going to
    > happen this year.
    >




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    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?

    JDa wrote:

    > Don't count on it, Nextel has just put out a brochure, here in Atlanta,
    > for the Motorola V505 camera phone. This is the same phone that AT&T
    > and Cingular sell. The Direct Connect sales rep I talked to said his
    > info was that it ran on the Sprint network, but was being administered
    > by Nextel.


    Ahh yes, the same sales reps who once told me that Nextel ran on GSM. I
    would take anything they say regarding any technical issues with a grain
    of salt.

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  8. #8
    JDa
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?

    In a good number of cases yes, but not this one. The Moto V505 is
    not a iden phone. This is a "Worldwide Service" phone, that provide
    phone service not only here in the US, but in Argentina, Brazil, Europe,
    the UK. (oh hell, see attached 3 scanned brochure images!)

    Just guessing I would say that this phone can not run in the normal
    Nextel service frequency range.


    Isaiah Beard wrote:
    > JDa wrote:
    >
    >> Don't count on it, Nextel has just put out a brochure, here in Atlanta,
    >> for the Motorola V505 camera phone. This is the same phone that AT&T
    >> and Cingular sell. The Direct Connect sales rep I talked to said his
    >> info was that it ran on the Sprint network, but was being administered
    >> by Nextel.

    >
    >
    > Ahh yes, the same sales reps who once told me that Nextel ran on GSM. I
    > would take anything they say regarding any technical issues with a grain
    > of salt.
    >


    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?-scan0001.jpg   Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?-scan0002.jpg   Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?-scan0003.jpg  



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    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?

    Isaiah Beard wrote:
    > JDa wrote:
    >
    >> Don't count on it, Nextel has just put out a brochure, here in Atlanta,
    >> for the Motorola V505 camera phone. This is the same phone that AT&T
    >> and Cingular sell. The Direct Connect sales rep I talked to said his
    >> info was that it ran on the Sprint network, but was being administered
    >> by Nextel.

    >
    >
    > Ahh yes, the same sales reps who once told me that Nextel ran on GSM. I
    > would take anything they say regarding any technical issues with a grain
    > of salt.


    Are you sure they didn't say that *some* of the phones are GSM? My father has a
    combo iDen/GSM phone, for example.



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    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?

    Steve Sobol wrote:

    >> Ahh yes, the same sales reps who once told me that Nextel ran on GSM.
    >> I would take anything they say regarding any technical issues with a
    >> grain of salt.

    >
    >
    > Are you sure they didn't say that *some* of the phones are GSM? My
    > father has a combo iDen/GSM phone, for example.


    I had asked about such a beast, and was told that ALL Nextel phones ran
    on GSM. My response: yeah, right.

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    Re: Sprint Nextel Dual-Mode Phones?


    "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    |
    | "John Eckart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | news:[email protected]
    | Anyone know if they're going to come out with phones that work on
    both
    | networks, for better coverage?
    |
    | And how about Sprint and Nextel users being able to PTT each other?
    Will
    | that happen?
    |
    | They must continue to operate autonomously until they merge. There
    will be
    | no merger of technology until afterwards, and I understand that the
    Nextel
    | system is considered to be aging technology, which is one of the
    reasons
    | that Nextel agreed to the merger. While no one knows for certain,
    the odds
    | are that they will phase out the Nextel iden system over time. It
    would
    | make no sense to operate two different networks.
    |
    | That process will take years--no need for anyone to panic.

    Moto has a server that will inter-connect Sprint PTT and Nextel DC.
    Who knows when/if it will bever be put in service (info courtesy of
    Timothy M. Donahue
    President and Chief Executive Officer, Nextel Communications Inc.).
    He also said that Sprint would be coming out with Q-Chat sometime
    after the merger and that while it ouwld be slower then DC at first
    that it would catch up in speed over a year or so. Of course this all
    depends on the merger going through.

    HTH

    Dave
    |
    |





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