Swithched to Verizon PTT

You say "If you have a SIGNAL". EXACTLY my point. I will take the 7 second
delay over a garbled no signal Nextel any day of the week. I've been a
Nextel subscriber for 5 years. Just made the switch to Verizon PTT. Glad I
did. Two full days on the system with no problems. Everyone is complaining
about the Verizon delay, and put two phones sided by side, or call one
Verizon store and key the PTT up and wait to hear the delay first hand. In
reality who cares about the 7 Second initial delay. If you are going to
have two phones sitting next to one another why bother having PTT of DC in
the first place. You could just simply turn to the person and have a
real-time conversation. I guess what I am trying to say is if the two
phones are 1/2 mile apart or 2000 miles apart you won't notice the delay.
How often are you going to talk to a person in the same room with a PTT or a
DC phone. That is just plainly absurd. If you just want plain PTT clarity,
then VERIZON should be your choice HANDS DOWN!!! If you want to take your
chances and have that 1/2 second Nextel DC Garbled connection 45% of the
time then Go For It. You have been warned from a former Nextel Subscriber!
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!

"Larry W4CSC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
> VoIP is never going to be a trunked radio system like iDen which was
> designed for it. The iDen hardware, if you have a signal which is another
> matter entirely, wins every time.
>
> --
> Larry
>
> You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
> chalk.
>

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-- snip --
In reality who cares about the 7 Second initial delay.
If you are going to
have two phones sitting next to one another why bother having PTT of DC
in
the first place. You could just simply turn to the person and have a
real-time conversation.
-- snip --

The 7 seconds is more like 15 seconds. 15 seconds was the fastest
I've seen it initially connect.

You obviously did not get the point of having the two phones next to
each other. It was to prove the bad latency delay for the initial
connection.

Verizon's PTT is the about the same speed as you calling someone up on
the cell phone. So what is the advantage??? Its actually a
disadvantage because only one person can talk at once. You are better
off simply calling the person on the cell phone.

Don't lose focus of what PTT is for. PTT is for quick short
conversations. I am in the audio business where I rent and operate
sound systems. Here is a simulation of using verizon PTT and Nextel
PTT in my sort of business. This is to show the importance of low
delay. : For simplicity, I will use an average case of 2 second for
Nextel and 15 seconds for Verizon for *initial* connections. The 2
seconds for Nextel is being conservative as it is typically about 1
second.

---------------------Nextel
simulation--------------------------------------
(2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
(2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
he parked it"
(2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
(2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
(2 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
truck since you are closest"

Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds

---------------------Verizon
simulation--------------------------------------
(15 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
(2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
he parked it"
(15 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
(2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
(15 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
truck since you are closest"

Total Verizon overhead connection time: 47 seconds
This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
to different people. The 15 seconds is were a new connection is made.
--------------------------------------------------------


I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.

LOL - I meant 49 seconds, not 47.

Jimmy. One fact remains for me. I am in construction. ALL but two of my
contacts are all on Nextel. When they all switch to Verizon, then it may be
worth while.

--
BD
Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side & a dark side, and it holds
the universe together.



"Jimmie James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eNKte.5577$R6.5255@trndny04...
> You say "If you have a SIGNAL". EXACTLY my point. I will take the 7
second
> delay over a garbled no signal Nextel any day of the week. I've been a
> Nextel subscriber for 5 years. Just made the switch to Verizon PTT. Glad
I
> did. Two full days on the system with no problems. Everyone is
complaining
> about the Verizon delay, and put two phones sided by side, or call one
> Verizon store and key the PTT up and wait to hear the delay first hand.
In
> reality who cares about the 7 Second initial delay. If you are going to
> have two phones sitting next to one another why bother having PTT of DC in
> the first place. You could just simply turn to the person and have a
> real-time conversation. I guess what I am trying to say is if the two
> phones are 1/2 mile apart or 2000 miles apart you won't notice the delay.
> How often are you going to talk to a person in the same room with a PTT or
a
> DC phone. That is just plainly absurd. If you just want plain PTT
clarity,
> then VERIZON should be your choice HANDS DOWN!!! If you want to take your
> chances and have that 1/2 second Nextel DC Garbled connection 45% of the
> time then Go For It. You have been warned from a former Nextel
Subscriber!
> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
>
> "Larry W4CSC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] wrote in
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> >
> > VoIP is never going to be a trunked radio system like iDen which was
> > designed for it. The iDen hardware, if you have a signal which is anoth
er
> > matter entirely, wins every time.
> >
> > --
> > Larry
> >
> > You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
> > chalk.
> >
>
>

I needed to change your numbers a little..........see below. I believe this
is mot accurate........... and you forgot to take into account that the
Nextel failure rate is very high compared that to Verizon. Your 2 second
intervals are at optimum performance.................NOT!!!!! LMFAO

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
..
>
> ---------------------Nextel
> simulation--------------------------------------
> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
> he parked it"
> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> truck since you are closest"
>
> Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds
>
> ---------------------Verizon
> simulation--------------------------------------
> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> (1.5 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
> he parked it"
> (7 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> (1.5 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> truck since you are closest"
>
> Total Verizon overhead connection time: 24 seconds
> This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
> to different people. The 7 seconds is were a new connection is made.
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
>

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
..
>
> Don't lose focus of what PTT is for. PTT is for quick short
> conversations. I am in the audio business where I rent and operate
> sound systems. Here is a simulation of using verizon PTT and Nextel
> PTT in my sort of business. This is to show the importance of low
> delay. : For simplicity, I will use an average case of 2 second for
> Nextel and 15 seconds for Verizon for *initial* connections. The 2
> seconds for Nextel is being conservative as it is typically about 1
> second.
>
---------------------Nextel
simulation--------------------------------------
(2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"

(2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont ^&*())*(&*&*^%*%^%& C because
he **********d it"
(2 Seconds) Person A - > Person B: "Come Again; I didn't get that."

(2 Seconds) Person B -> Person A: "Sorry, I didn't get all that; Did you
want me to go with you to the car dealership to buy a new Truck?"

(2 seconds) Person A-> Person B - "Huh? There must be some mistake. I
want to know where you parked the truck."

(2 seconds) Person B-> Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because he
parked it"

(2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where %^&*()(&*&(* you ()()()(_)(_)(_)(
van?"

(2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "I can't understand you; call me on my cell
phone"

Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds for connects; actual
conversation time is unpredictable, as the audio quality is too undependable
to have a straight conversation whithout addiding additional time for
repeating or explaining what you just didn't say.

---------------------Verizon imulation--------------------------------------
(15 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
(2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
he parked it"
(15 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
(2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
(15 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
truck since you are closest"

Total Verizon overhead connection time: 47 seconds
This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
to different people. The 15 seconds is were a new connection is made.
--------------------------------------------------------
>
> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
>

VZ PTT still has a way to go. It is unlikely it will ever be as quick as
Nextel PTT, as they are 2 different animals. However, if my life was
depending on interaction with someone else, I would rather lose a minute
with slow dependable communcations compared to quick unintelligibility.

This is probably why Snipers dont use short barrelled full automatic
weapons, and why Hollywood insists on showing a scene where the villian
alswua screws a surpressor on a wheel gun. A single, well placed projectile
is far more effective than causing eventual medical hardship on the tatrget
due to lead poisioning from the dust in the air created by flying bullets
from a full auto lead dispensing system; just because it is faster......

I found that I can forgo a lot of showmanship for a little dependability;
but that seems to be a foreign idea in today's society.

It's kinda like the old Bull explaining to the yearling that you don't run
out in the pasture to service one cow; you walk down there and service them
all.

Your Mileage May Vary........................

The 2 second contact time is fairly consistent; as long as you don't get the
unavailable tone when you start the conversation. or in the middle of a
conversation; causing you to drop connection.

The key timing cycle here is how many minutes does it take to get an
understandable 5 second voice exchange with the other party.

VZ may personify be the Turtle and the Hare revisited, and we all know the
outcome of that parable......

"Jimmie James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:QKTte.7614$R6.3618@trndny04...
>I needed to change your numbers a little..........see below. I believe
>this is mot accurate........... and you forgot to take into account that
>the Nextel failure rate is very high compared that to Verizon. Your 2
>second intervals are at optimum performance.................NOT!!!!!
>LMFAO
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> .
>>
>> ---------------------Nextel
>> simulation--------------------------------------
>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
>> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
>> he parked it"
>> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
>> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
>> truck since you are closest"
>>
>> Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds
>>
>> ---------------------Verizon
>> simulation--------------------------------------
>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
>> (1.5 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
>> he parked it"
>> (7 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
>> (1.5 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
>> truck since you are closest"
>>
>> Total Verizon overhead connection time: 24 seconds
>> This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
>> to different people. The 7 seconds is were a new connection is made.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
>> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
>> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
>> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
>>
>
>

Hasn't Happened Yet.......3 Days and not one garbled dropped connection.
Verizon finally got their act together. Can You Hear Me Now!!! And on top
of that I can actually make a clear intelligible phone call. Can't do that
with Nextel.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> The 2 second contact time is fairly consistent; as long as you don't get
> the unavailable tone when you start the conversation. or in the middle of
> a conversation; causing you to drop connection.
>
> The key timing cycle here is how many minutes does it take to get an
> understandable 5 second voice exchange with the other party.
>
> VZ may personify be the Turtle and the Hare revisited, and we all know the
> outcome of that parable......
>
> "Jimmie James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:QKTte.7614$R6.3618@trndny04...
>>I needed to change your numbers a little..........see below. I believe
>>this is mot accurate........... and you forgot to take into account that
>>the Nextel failure rate is very high compared that to Verizon. Your 2
>>second intervals are at optimum performance.................NOT!!!!! LMFAO
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> .
>>>
>>> ---------------------Nextel
>>> simulation--------------------------------------
>>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
>>> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
>>> he parked it"
>>> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
>>> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
>>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
>>> truck since you are closest"
>>>
>>> Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds
>>>
>>> ---------------------Verizon
>>> simulation--------------------------------------
>>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
>>> (1.5 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
>>> he parked it"
>>> (7 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
>>> (1.5 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
>>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
>>> truck since you are closest"
>>>
>>> Total Verizon overhead connection time: 24 seconds
>>> This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
>>> to different people. The 7 seconds is were a new connection is made.
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
>>> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
>>> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
>>> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

WELL SAID...........Could not have said it better. Go VERIZON.... 2Thumbs
Up... Can you hear me now!!!!
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> .
>>
>> Don't lose focus of what PTT is for. PTT is for quick short
>> conversations. I am in the audio business where I rent and operate
>> sound systems. Here is a simulation of using verizon PTT and Nextel
>> PTT in my sort of business. This is to show the importance of low
>> delay. : For simplicity, I will use an average case of 2 second for
>> Nextel and 15 seconds for Verizon for *initial* connections. The 2
>> seconds for Nextel is being conservative as it is typically about 1
>> second.
>>
> ---------------------Nextel
> simulation--------------------------------------
> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
>
> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont ^&*())*(&*&*^%*%^%& C because
> he **********d it"
> (2 Seconds) Person A - > Person B: "Come Again; I didn't get that."
>
> (2 Seconds) Person B -> Person A: "Sorry, I didn't get all that; Did you
> want me to go with you to the car dealership to buy a new Truck?"
>
> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person B - "Huh? There must be some mistake. I
> want to know where you parked the truck."
>
> (2 seconds) Person B-> Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because he
> parked it"
>
> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where %^&*()(&*&(* you
> ()()()(_)(_)(_)( van?"
>
> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "I can't understand you; call me on my
> cell phone"
>
> Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds for connects; actual
> conversation time is unpredictable, as the audio quality is too
> undependable to have a straight conversation whithout addiding additional
> time for repeating or explaining what you just didn't say.
>
> ---------------------Verizon
> imulation--------------------------------------
> (15 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
> he parked it"
> (15 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> (15 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> truck since you are closest"
>
> Total Verizon overhead connection time: 47 seconds
> This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
> to different people. The 15 seconds is were a new connection is made.
> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
>> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
>> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
>> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
>>
>
> VZ PTT still has a way to go. It is unlikely it will ever be as quick as
> Nextel PTT, as they are 2 different animals. However, if my life was
> depending on interaction with someone else, I would rather lose a minute
> with slow dependable communcations compared to quick unintelligibility.
>
> This is probably why Snipers dont use short barrelled full automatic
> weapons, and why Hollywood insists on showing a scene where the villian
> alswua screws a surpressor on a wheel gun. A single, well placed
> projectile is far more effective than causing eventual medical hardship on
> the tatrget due to lead poisioning from the dust in the air created by
> flying bullets from a full auto lead dispensing system; just because it is
> faster......
>
> I found that I can forgo a lot of showmanship for a little dependability;
> but that seems to be a foreign idea in today's society.
>
> It's kinda like the old Bull explaining to the yearling that you don't run
> out in the pasture to service one cow; you walk down there and service
> them all.
>
> Your Mileage May Vary........................
>

That is not at all what I stated. Please read my post carefully. I only
stated a fact, that you can use Nextel DC anywhere you can use Nextel Cell,
but not the same with Verizon. I offered no opinion as to which I would
rather use...
"Jeff P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Zman53" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > One thing to remember with Nextel Vs. Verizon. Nextel Direct Connect
> > works
> > everywhere Nextel Cell works. The same cannot be said with Verizon.
They
> > still have analog sites around the country and their PTW requires a
> > digital
> > connection...
> >
> >
>
> So you are saying you would rather have "No Service" from Nextel than to
be
> able to make an analog call in remote areas on Verizon?
>
> -Jeff
>
>

I'm surprised you're able to make an intelligible phone call on any
system...

"Jimmie James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:nmWte.17712$fa3.2554@trndny01...
> Hasn't Happened Yet.......3 Days and not one garbled dropped connection.
> Verizon finally got their act together. Can You Hear Me Now!!! And on
top
> of that I can actually make a clear intelligible phone call. Can't do
that
> with Nextel.
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > The 2 second contact time is fairly consistent; as long as you don't get
> > the unavailable tone when you start the conversation. or in the middle
of
> > a conversation; causing you to drop connection.
> >
> > The key timing cycle here is how many minutes does it take to get an
> > understandable 5 second voice exchange with the other party.
> >
> > VZ may personify be the Turtle and the Hare revisited, and we all know
the
> > outcome of that parable......
> >
> > "Jimmie James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:QKTte.7614$R6.3618@trndny04...
> >>I needed to change your numbers a little..........see below. I believe
> >>this is mot accurate........... and you forgot to take into account that
> >>the Nextel failure rate is very high compared that to Verizon. Your 2
> >>second intervals are at optimum performance.................NOT!!!!!
LMFAO
> >>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> .
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------Nextel
> >>> simulation--------------------------------------
> >>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
> >>> he parked it"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> >>> truck since you are closest"
> >>>
> >>> Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------Verizon
> >>> simulation--------------------------------------
> >>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> >>> (1.5 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C
because
> >>> he parked it"
> >>> (7 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> >>> (1.5 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> >>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> >>> truck since you are closest"
> >>>
> >>> Total Verizon overhead connection time: 24 seconds
> >>> This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
> >>> to different people. The 7 seconds is were a new connection is made.
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
> >>> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
> >>> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
> >>> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

[email protected] wrote:

> Verizon's PTT is the about the same speed as you calling someone up on
> the cell phone.

I have noticed in the past 6 months or so that it only takes 3~4 seconds
to have the phone on the other end actually ring after I press send.

"Jimmie James" <[email protected]> wrote in news:eNKte.5577$R6.5255@trndny04:

> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
>
>

One more question....please.

Why would anyone, on any company, use a PTT walkie talkie, even if it
worked perfect, holding a perfectly-great-working FULL DUPLEX telephone in
their hands with a built-in speakerphone?? Is this some kind of retro
novelty or trend-setting statement?

I've been using PTT on ham and 2-way radios since 1957. I was 11, by the
way. I don't see why anyone would want to use it...

--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.

Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT works flawlessly.
No garbled transmissions yet. Works everywhere that I have went over the
last three days. Phila, NJ and DE. Can't say that for the Nextel I had for
the last 5 years. I am very satisfied with the PTT and recommend that all
Nextel users give the Verizon 15 day trial a try. I believe you too will
not be disappointed and will make the switch. Don't knock it till you try
it!!!!!


"Jimmy D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
newshyte.21723$qr1.8628@trndny07...
> Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
> deal......
>
> Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
> instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as I
> would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time. Verizon
> PTT is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>
> 2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their PTT
> and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I believe
> that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
>

The Bottom line is Nextel cell service has been getting worse every year ( I
had them for ten ) Most people I talk to with Nextel state that the novelty
of it has gone away. With the price of cell minutes going down using the
cell part of the phone is more logical. Sorry Nextel but I tried and I for
one cannot take CALL FAILED or USER BUSY IN DATA no more... - Me
"Jimmy D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%g2ue.10635$tG.241@trnddc05...
> Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT works flawlessly.
> No garbled transmissions yet. Works everywhere that I have went over the
> last three days. Phila, NJ and DE. Can't say that for the Nextel I had
> for the last 5 years. I am very satisfied with the PTT and recommend that
> all Nextel users give the Verizon 15 day trial a try. I believe you too
> will not be disappointed and will make the switch. Don't knock it till
> you try it!!!!!
>
>
> "Jimmy D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> newshyte.21723$qr1.8628@trndny07...
>> Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
>> deal......
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>> Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
>> instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as I
>> would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time. Verizon
>> PTT is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>>
>> 2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their
>> PTT and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I
>> believe that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
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