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  1. #1
    Todd Allcock
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    At 16 Jul 2007 06:44:55 -0400 George wrote:

    > The old ATT TDMA sites that are going/gone away had backup generators.
    > The GSM sites just have a minimal amount of battery. So with anything
    > other than a short term power failure you aren't calling 911 (or
    > anyone else) on your iphone.



    If any other GSM carrier is operating (like T-Mobile) the 911 call would
    go through them.

    And forgetting the doom and gllom scenarios, backup batteries are good
    for several hours- longer than than Vast majority of power outages. In
    this post-Katrina world, AT&T has decided to spend their "backup"
    resources on things like an increased number of COWs (Cells on Wheels,)
    stored regionally, to deploy to areas in a true state of emergency,
    rather than try to increase backup capacity of every cell tower in their
    network.

    In my nearly 20-years of using cellphones, I've never lost service due to
    power outages- even in outages lasting for over two-days. I suspect the
    cellcos know what they're doing in that area by now!



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  2. #2
    Ness_net
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    Re: iPhones and Contracts

    Just FYI, when Seattle had that ***** of bad weather last winter,
    it sure was nice to have that big 'ol gen at the VZW site nearby pumping
    out the juice - and the site staying up the whole time. The GSM carriers
    (and Sprint) were LONG off the air.

    There is NO substitute...


    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > At 16 Jul 2007 06:44:55 -0400 George wrote:
    >
    >> The old ATT TDMA sites that are going/gone away had backup generators.
    >> The GSM sites just have a minimal amount of battery. So with anything
    >> other than a short term power failure you aren't calling 911 (or
    >> anyone else) on your iphone.

    >
    >
    > If any other GSM carrier is operating (like T-Mobile) the 911 call would
    > go through them.
    >
    > And forgetting the doom and gllom scenarios, backup batteries are good
    > for several hours- longer than than Vast majority of power outages. In
    > this post-Katrina world, AT&T has decided to spend their "backup"
    > resources on things like an increased number of COWs (Cells on Wheels,)
    > stored regionally, to deploy to areas in a true state of emergency,
    > rather than try to increase backup capacity of every cell tower in their
    > network.
    >
    > In my nearly 20-years of using cellphones, I've never lost service due to
    > power outages- even in outages lasting for over two-days. I suspect the
    > cellcos know what they're doing in that area by now!
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
    >






  3. #3
    John Navas
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    Re: iPhones and Contracts

    On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:41:21 -0700, "Ness_net"
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >Just FYI, when Seattle had that ***** of bad weather last winter,
    >it sure was nice to have that big 'ol gen at the VZW site nearby pumping
    >out the juice - and the site staying up the whole time. The GSM carriers
    >(and Sprint) were LONG off the air.


    Not according to people I know in that area.

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    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  4. #4
    Ness_net
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    Re: iPhones and Contracts

    Well Johnny, I LIVE here.
    This is not 2nd hand info.

    Note, I didn't say their entire system(s) were down.

    But, very certainly in this area, they were. VZW was
    the only system that stayed up, here. The only one with
    a gen, keeping things humming... Battery plants just don't
    last for days, more like hours.



    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:41:21 -0700, "Ness_net"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>Just FYI, when Seattle had that ***** of bad weather last winter,
    >>it sure was nice to have that big 'ol gen at the VZW site nearby pumping
    >>out the juice - and the site staying up the whole time. The GSM carriers
    >>(and Sprint) were LONG off the air.

    >
    > Not according to people I know in that area.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>






  5. #5
    Dennis Ferguson
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    Re: iPhones and Contracts

    On 2007-07-18, Ness_net <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Well Johnny, I LIVE here.
    > This is not 2nd hand info.
    >
    > Note, I didn't say their entire system(s) were down.
    >
    > But, very certainly in this area, they were. VZW was
    > the only system that stayed up, here. The only one with
    > a gen, keeping things humming... Battery plants just don't
    > last for days, more like hours.


    I was in Boynton Beach, FL during and after hurricane Frances in 2004.
    No Verizon cell sites there had permanent generators that I noticed (I've
    yet to see a generator at an isolated cell site where I live in California,
    for that matter).

    Despite this, after the first day, Verizon was the only wireless
    carrier operating where I was for the 4 or 5 days the power was out.
    While coverage was spotty in the town Verizon did have portable generators
    deployed at the cell sites along the freeway close to where I was staying.
    My Sprint and T-Mobile phones, on the other hand, were useless anywhere
    north of Fort Lauderdale (where the power was still on), as was my
    brother-in-law's Cingular phone.

    Dennis Ferguson



  6. #6
    John Navas
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    Re: iPhones and Contracts

    Fair enough -- I didn't realize you were speaking of only one tower.

    On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:09:14 -0700, "Ness_net"
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >Well Johnny, I LIVE here.
    >This is not 2nd hand info.
    >
    >Note, I didn't say their entire system(s) were down.
    >
    >But, very certainly in this area, they were. VZW was
    >the only system that stayed up, here. The only one with
    >a gen, keeping things humming... Battery plants just don't
    >last for days, more like hours.
    >
    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:41:21 -0700, "Ness_net"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> <[email protected]>:
    >>
    >>>Just FYI, when Seattle had that ***** of bad weather last winter,
    >>>it sure was nice to have that big 'ol gen at the VZW site nearby pumping
    >>>out the juice - and the site staying up the whole time. The GSM carriers
    >>>(and Sprint) were LONG off the air.

    >>
    >> Not according to people I know in that area.


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    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



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