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  1. #1
    Scott
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    OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
    think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
    incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
    Can someone talk me into getting nextel?





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  2. #2
    Jason Lowe
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
    month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
    by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
    phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
    features!

    "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
    > think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
    > incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
    > Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  3. #3
    Steve
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    Re: new to nextel

    Id say if you want to communcate with your buddies that just got
    Nextel with that feature (direct connect) then it will be worth it.
    The other guy said wait for Verizons PTT, BUT it wont be able to
    direct connect Nextel phones, so that may pose a problem for you. Also
    Verizons is really untested except for a few higher ups in the
    company, so we dont know how solid it will be yet.
    Just my



  4. #4
    George Blanas
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    Re: new to nextel

    I disagree that Nextel is so much more expensive than Verizon. I have 3
    Nextel phones with a total of 1500 min. mine has Online Plus, all have
    unlimited DC, long distance, voice mail, etc. I'm paying $180/mo.
    Verizon would be approx. the same. Look for the promo's, you can get a
    great deal.

    --
    Cut the cord, go wireless!


    [email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
    > month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
    > by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
    > phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
    > features!
    >
    > "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
    > > think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
    > > incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
    > > Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  5. #5
    James
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    Keep in mind Jason is a Nextel hater and doesn't appear to have
    anything good to say about them.

    Some things to keep in mind about Nextel: (my oppinion)

    1. Nextel is first to market, that is a costly road. Their prices are
    higher, but many people are soon going to discover the shining star of
    Verizon push-to-talk is going to fade as problems and slowness becomes
    obvious. If anyone believes the Verizon PTT will perform as well or
    better than Nextel, they'll be among the primary complainers as their
    expectations are too high.

    2. Verizon PTT nationwide? Not likely anytime soon.

    3. As for Nextel, you need to watch the billing, I find consistent
    problems with "accidenly" charging for various things. They're
    usually good about crediting back their mistakes, but I have to catch
    them and frequently do.

    4. After you setup your service, going forward ebay for your phone
    upgrades and accessories. Upgrading your phone with Nextel is
    expensive and takes a contract signed in blood for a year.

    5. Choose your rate plan wisely. They recently added two new plans
    that are just nationwide DC added to one and NWDC and 2-way messaging
    added to the other. If you pick the all-inclusive, I doubt you and
    take either of those out because it's now part of your standard plan.
    If you want the features, go with the lower cost package and add on.
    That way you can delete the features later if you don't want them.

    6. As for Nationwide DC, I'd save on the $10 a month and pay the 10
    cents a minute. They bill DC by the second and using 100 minutes of
    Nationwide DC isn't likely for a non-business user.

    All in all I love the service, just wish the pricing and rate plans
    were less slimy.



  6. #6
    Jason Lowe
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    That's funny. I still have double the minutes you have and half the
    price with 2 phones!!!

    [email protected] (George Blanas) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > I disagree that Nextel is so much more expensive than Verizon. I have 3
    > Nextel phones with a total of 1500 min. mine has Online Plus, all have
    > unlimited DC, long distance, voice mail, etc. I'm paying $180/mo.
    > Verizon would be approx. the same. Look for the promo's, you can get a
    > great deal.
    >
    > --
    > Cut the cord, go wireless!
    >
    >
    > [email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > No, I think if you are going to use the Walkie Talkies...wait until next
    > > month when Verizon brings it out. They have better cellular service and
    > > by far better prices. I had Nextel and I was paying $180 for 2
    > > phones...now I pay $100 for 2 with double the minutes and extra
    > > features!
    > >
    > > "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > > OK, two of my buddies have nextel and another is gettin it next week. I
    > > > think it is awsome to be able to use the walkie talkies, and the free
    > > > incoming. but tell me... is it really worth it?
    > > > Can someone talk me into getting nextel?
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  7. #7
    Jason McGehee
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    Remember too. If you want to communicate among a high number of people
    using PPT, Nextel has a very large, almost 100%, of it users have and use
    PPT. This means your PPT can be used with your buddies and others your meet
    along the way. Nextel coverage is not a extensive as Verizon. The last
    time I check Verizon rates and plans were pretty high. Also, Verizon has
    good coverage because they have a combination CDMA, PCS, and AMPS system.
    The PPT is only going to be supported on the digital service, so out in the
    bone-docks the PPT will not work.

    Jason





  8. #8
    James
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    I'll agree with Jason McGehee about PTT coverage. It's great in most
    main-stream areas, however, Nextel does need to increase it's rual
    base. They have an emphasis on this near the west coast. If,
    however, you are not a back-road dweller, I haven't expierenced any
    issues in most small or mid-size towns I travel through in PA, MD, or
    DE.



  9. #9
    Steve
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
    thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
    see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
    avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
    them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
    this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
    dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
    order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
    VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
    segment.



  10. #10
    Ernest
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
    going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
    delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
    the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
    later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
    to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO



    "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
    > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
    > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
    > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
    > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
    > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
    > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
    > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
    > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
    > segment.







  11. #11
    Jay R. Ashworth
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    Stanley settled back into the couch, and
    Steve <[email protected]> said to him:
    > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
    > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
    > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
    > avaliable" error.


    Unless they include "invisiblity", I wouldn't touch it. Whether my
    phone is on is *not* an indicator of whether I'm "available"... at
    least on Nextel, if you want to know if someone's on, you gotta
    commit.

    Cheers,
    -- jra
    --
    Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
    Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
    The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
    Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274

    God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson



  12. #12
    Jay R. Ashworth
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    Stanley settled back into the couch, and
    Ernest <[email protected]> said to him:
    > As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
    > going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
    > delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
    > the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
    > later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
    > to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO


    Let's note here that Motorola owns those patents, and a couple of
    Nextel competitors prove that this wasn't the *only* thing keeping
    people out of the market. Nextel is on non-cellular allocated
    bandwidth... because they went out and spent the money to buy
    existing SMR licenses market by market. (Nextel, in case you missed
    it, is *not* a cellular phone... legally, or technically. It's
    Specialized Mobile Radio. That's, among other things, why it's at
    800MHz instead of 900.)

    Cheers,
    -- jra
    --
    Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
    Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
    The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
    Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274

    God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson



  13. #13
    Jason Lowe
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
    talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!

    "Ernest" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <YlUVa.3701$f%[email protected]>:
    > As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
    > going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
    > delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
    > the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
    > later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
    > to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
    >
    >
    >
    > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
    > > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
    > > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
    > > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
    > > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
    > > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
    > > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
    > > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
    > > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
    > > segment.

    >
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  14. #14
    MArk Filla
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    When you think about how much infrastructure and A to D and D to A
    conversions that your voice goes thru, one second is pretty damn good
    IMHO especially when is goes Nationwide!
    --
    Mark KS4VT


    [email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
    > talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!
    >
    > "Ernest" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <YlUVa.3701$f%[email protected]>:
    > > As far as I heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is NOT
    > > going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system has a
    > > delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't know,
    > > the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10 years
    > > later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect Verizon
    > > to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
    > > > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you will
    > > > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
    > > > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I use
    > > > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
    > > > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
    > > > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
    > > > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel or
    > > > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
    > > > segment.

    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  15. #15
    Myself
    Guest

    Re: new to nextel

    there is no standard "1-second delay." its true that sometimes things get
    delayed, like they do in any system, but theres no 1 second delay.


    "MArk Filla" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > When you think about how much infrastructure and A to D and D to A
    > conversions that your voice goes thru, one second is pretty damn good
    > IMHO especially when is goes Nationwide!
    > --
    > Mark KS4VT
    >
    >
    > [email protected] (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > There is no delay to connect. In fact, it is simultaneously when you
    > > talk, Nextel does have a 1 second delay people forget about!
    > >
    > > "Ernest" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <YlUVa.3701$f%[email protected]>:
    > > > As far asI heard from a local Two-Way Radio store, Verizon's system is

    NOT
    > > > going to function like Nextel's. They told me that Verizon's system

    has a
    > > > delay to connect, unlike Nextel D.C. system. Also, for some that don't

    know,
    > > > the reason Nextel has this system was due to Patent rights. Now 10

    years
    > > > later, everyone can use the same type of system. I would not expect

    Verizon
    > > > to suddenly be able to rival Nextel's system overnight. IMO
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > > > I think VZW is going to have a good system once its operational. The
    > > > > thing I think will be good is the "buddy list" feature, where you

    will
    > > > > see who is avaliable, instead of trying to connect to get the "not
    > > > > avaliable" error. But then again, who knows. Im not backing VZW, I

    use
    > > > > them for my prepaid wireless, and iv never owned Nextel (getting one
    > > > > this coming week), but I think VZW will have a good network, but I
    > > > > dont think they will get as many sign ups as expected, since 1. In
    > > > > order for me to DC someone, they would have to be either on Nextel

    or
    > > > > VZW, no intercarrier and 2. Nextel has proven itself in the DC
    > > > > segment.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]






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