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  1. #1
    Bob
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    what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.

    Lets see- some Toyota's are made in America- My Chevy Tracker- A Jap- as you
    say-car made in Canada with an American nameplate.

    Very sad

    "Jenniffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Its the American way
    >
    > See all those Jap vehicles on the roads?
    >
    > The hell with Ford/GMC and Chrysler!
    >
    > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
    >
    >






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  2. #2
    Jenniffer
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    Re: NOW OT- Jap Cars-Was Re: NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?

    What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education.
    WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO????

    ANY IDEA, Einstein?


    "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.
    >
    > Lets see- some Toyota's are made in America- My Chevy Tracker- A Jap- as

    you
    > say-car made in Canada with an American nameplate.
    >
    > Very sad
    >
    > "Jenniffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Its the American way
    > >
    > > See all those Jap vehicles on the roads?
    > >
    > > The hell with Ford/GMC and Chrysler!
    > >
    > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  3. #3
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: NOW OT- Jap Cars-Was Re: NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?

    Well, I thought I had seen just about everything in this NG, but this latest
    rant has finally taken the cake. Besides the impracticality and absurdness
    of the very offensive and isolationist mentality mentioned below (somebody
    better check the "Made In...."stickers on most of their electronics and
    appliances), it just continues a recurring theme in this NG- people *****ing
    about Nextel either because of their pricing, or because they don't make
    phones that would fit inside a thimble. And nowhere in this thread do I see
    any FACTS about Nextel. So, let's see if the facts have any place here:

    1. Nextel- first to provide a handsfree speakerphone.
    2. Nextel- first to provide Java applications via wireless network.
    3. Nextel- first to provide packet data transmission over a wireless
    network.
    4. Nextel- first to offer instantaneous push-to-talk functionality.
    5. Nextel- first to offer the previously mentioned push-to-talk as a
    network-wide feature.

    Now, you will notice that there are a few things not on this list. Nextel,
    for example, was not the first provider to offer the ability to take a
    picture of Poopsie coughing up a hair ball and sending the pic to Aunt
    Beulah. The fact is (and one that is commonly forgotten here) is that we
    are talking about a PHONE here. The day may come when we can all carry an
    all-in-one communications device, but the real fact is THAT TIME HAS NOT
    ARRIVED YET. Until then, every provider is going to put out vastly inferior
    products in an attempt to make you believe that the functionality is
    something you can't live without. That is, every provider except Nextel- it
    appears that they only provide new technology after they have worked out
    most of the bugs, and provide it in a phone that doesn't fall apart when you
    look at it the wrong way. Can Verizon, Sprint or AT&T make the same claim?

    A few more facts about Nextel before wrapping up:

    1. Nextel's business model is centered around the fact that they are
    primarily a provider of services for Business and Government customers (a
    fact that they repeat constantly). This model seems to be working, because
    they appear to be one of the few cellular providers to actually make money.

    2. In spite of this model, Nextel has been rated with providing the highest
    Customer Service of all cellular providers two years in a row by J.D
    Edwards. My feeling is that the whiners in this NG are actually preventing
    the rest of us from receiving even better service, as they are probably the
    ones calling in to rant and rave about things that can not be addressed by
    Customer Care ("I want you to put a cell tower in my backyard"). And this
    is no exaggeration- they get these kinds of calls all of the time.

    Two last thoughts, and then I'll let the flaming begin- earlier in this
    thread, an analogy was made to the Auto industry. Typically, those cars
    with the most bells and whistles are generally the least reliable and most
    expensive to repair. And if a certain model is too expensive on the showroom
    floor, you always have the option of letting someone else drive it for a
    while, and then buy it used. Do these philosophies also apply to cell
    phones?

    Finally, let's take a look at the home nationality of the big cell phone
    manufacturers. Motorola, Nextel's almost exclusive provider of phones, is
    an American corporation. And everybody else buys from:
    Ericsson
    Nokia
    Samsung
    Sony

    Anybody see a pattern here? This is not an acceptance of the narrow
    Nationalist view put forth earlier in this thread, but just an observation.
    And Jenniffer, while you have the right to say whatever you want, that right
    does not mean that anyone has to read it. You are officially the first
    person to be ignored by this reader in this NG. Congratulations. And let
    the flaming begin.
    "Jenniffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education.
    > WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO????
    >
    > ANY IDEA, Einstein?
    >
    >
    > "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.
    > >
    > > Lets see- some Toyota's are made in America- My Chevy Tracker- A Jap- as

    > you
    > > say-car made in Canada with an American nameplate.
    > >
    > > Very sad
    > >
    > > "Jenniffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Its the American way
    > > >
    > > > See all those Jap vehicles on the roads?
    > > >
    > > > The hell with Ford/GMC and Chrysler!
    > > >
    > > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their economy!
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  4. #4
    Jay R. Ashworth
    Guest

    Re: NOW OT- Jap Cars-Was Re: NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?

    Stanley settled back into the couch, and
    Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> said to him:
    > 1. Nextel- first to provide a handsfree speakerphone.
    > 2. Nextel- first to provide Java applications via wireless network.
    > 3. Nextel- first to provide packet data transmission over a wireless
    > network.
    > 4. Nextel- first to offer instantaneous push-to-talk functionality.
    > 5. Nextel- first to offer the previously mentioned push-to-talk as a
    > network-wide feature.


    Yeah. But I'm personally permitted to ***** about the deal on
    inter-fleet and Nationwide, since *I told them they needed those
    features back in 1996*, and they sat in a conference room with me (a
    district and a regional manager) and said "Oh, we're never gonna do
    that; no one needs that." I think I can still dig up business cards
    and provide names, if anyone's interested.

    But let's add

    6. Nextel -- certainly not the first to offer 24 hours a day
    customer service ... to a client base that actually cares.

    And lets note that item 1 doesn't really belong to Nextel, it belongs
    to Motorola.

    Nope, our unhappiness with Nextal qua Nextel isn't unreasonable.

    Cheers,
    -- jra
    --
    Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
    Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
    The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
    Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274

    God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson



  5. #5
    Susank
    Guest

    Re: NOW OT- Jap Cars-Was Re: NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?

    Since when is first best?

    Actually, first is most likely not best

    The seconds and thirds improve upon the first's products and short cummings!



    "Jay R. Ashworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Stanley settled back into the couch, and
    > Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> said to him:
    > > 1. Nextel- first to provide a handsfree speakerphone.
    > > 2. Nextel- first to provide Java applications via wireless network.
    > > 3. Nextel- first to provide packet data transmission over a wireless
    > > network.
    > > 4. Nextel- first to offer instantaneous push-to-talk functionality.
    > > 5. Nextel- first to offer the previously mentioned push-to-talk as a
    > > network-wide feature.

    >
    > Yeah. But I'm personally permitted to ***** about the deal on
    > inter-fleet and Nationwide, since *I told them they needed those
    > features back in 1996*, and they sat in a conference room with me (a
    > district and a regional manager) and said "Oh, we're never gonna do
    > that; no one needs that." I think I can still dig up business cards
    > and provide names, if anyone's interested.
    >
    > But let's add
    >
    > 6. Nextel -- certainly not the first to offer 24 hours a day
    > customer service ... to a client base that actually cares.
    >
    > And lets note that item 1 doesn't really belong to Nextel, it belongs
    > to Motorola.
    >
    > Nope, our unhappiness with Nextal qua Nextel isn't unreasonable.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > -- jra
    > --
    > Jay R. Ashworth

    [email protected]
    > Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
    > The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
    > Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647

    1274
    >
    > God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson






  6. #6
    Cox SMTP west
    Guest

    Re: NOW OT- Jap Cars-Was Re: NEXTEL : Can you hear me now?

    Yes, I agree with the Nextel facts on this, and I had a govt account for
    nextel, which also line priority for connections... been great. I have had
    Nextel since 1990.
    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Well, I thought I had seen just about everything in this NG, but this

    latest
    > rant has finally taken the cake. Besides the impracticality and

    absurdness
    > of the very offensive and isolationist mentality mentioned below (somebody
    > better check the "Made In...."stickers on most of their electronics and
    > appliances), it just continues a recurring theme in this NG- people

    *****ing
    > about Nextel either because of their pricing, or because they don't make
    > phones that would fit inside a thimble. And nowhere in this thread do I

    see
    > any FACTS about Nextel. So, let's see if the facts have any place here:
    >
    > 1. Nextel- first to provide a handsfree speakerphone.
    > 2. Nextel- first to provide Java applications via wireless network.
    > 3. Nextel- first to provide packet data transmission over a wireless
    > network.
    > 4. Nextel- first to offer instantaneous push-to-talk functionality.
    > 5. Nextel- first to offer the previously mentioned push-to-talk as a
    > network-wide feature.
    >
    > Now, you will notice that there are a few things not on this list.

    Nextel,
    > for example, was not the first provider to offer the ability to take a
    > picture of Poopsie coughing up a hair ball and sending the pic to Aunt
    > Beulah. The fact is (and one that is commonly forgotten here) is that we
    > are talking about a PHONE here. The day may come when we can all carry an
    > all-in-one communications device, but the real fact is THAT TIME HAS NOT
    > ARRIVED YET. Until then, every provider is going to put out vastly

    inferior
    > products in an attempt to make you believe that the functionality is
    > something you can't live without. That is, every provider except Nextel-

    it
    > appears that they only provide new technology after they have worked out
    > most of the bugs, and provide it in a phone that doesn't fall apart when

    you
    > look at it the wrong way. Can Verizon, Sprint or AT&T make the same

    claim?
    >
    > A few more facts about Nextel before wrapping up:
    >
    > 1. Nextel's business model is centered around the fact that they are
    > primarily a provider of services for Business and Government customers (a
    > fact that they repeat constantly). This model seems to be working,

    because
    > they appear to be one of the few cellular providers to actually make

    money.
    >
    > 2. In spite of this model, Nextel has been rated with providing the

    highest
    > Customer Service of all cellular providers two years in a row by J.D
    > Edwards. My feeling is that the whiners in this NG are actually

    preventing
    > the rest of us from receiving even better service, as they are probably

    the
    > ones calling in to rant and rave about things that can not be addressed by
    > Customer Care ("I want you to put a cell tower in my backyard"). And this
    > is no exaggeration- they get these kinds of calls all of the time.
    >
    > Two last thoughts, and then I'll let the flaming begin- earlier in this
    > thread, an analogy was made to the Auto industry. Typically, those cars
    > with the most bells and whistles are generally the least reliable and most
    > expensive to repair. And if a certain model is too expensive on the

    showroom
    > floor, you always have the option of letting someone else drive it for a
    > while, and then buy it used. Do these philosophies also apply to cell
    > phones?
    >
    > Finally, let's take a look at the home nationality of the big cell phone
    > manufacturers. Motorola, Nextel's almost exclusive provider of phones, is
    > an American corporation. And everybody else buys from:
    > Ericsson
    > Nokia
    > Samsung
    > Sony
    >
    > Anybody see a pattern here? This is not an acceptance of the narrow
    > Nationalist view put forth earlier in this thread, but just an

    observation.
    > And Jenniffer, while you have the right to say whatever you want, that

    right
    > does not mean that anyone has to read it. You are officially the first
    > person to be ignored by this reader in this NG. Congratulations. And let
    > the flaming begin.
    > "Jenniffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > What so sad is that you seem to have no economic education.
    > > WHERE DO THE PROFITS OF THESE US SALES GO????
    > >
    > > ANY IDEA, Einstein?
    > >
    > >
    > > "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > what a completely racist and factually incorrect statement.
    > > >
    > > > Lets see- some Toyota's are made in America- My Chevy Tracker- A Jap-

    as
    > > you
    > > > say-car made in Canada with an American nameplate.
    > > >
    > > > Very sad
    > > >
    > > > "Jenniffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > > > Its the American way
    > > > >
    > > > > See all those Jap vehicles on the roads?
    > > > >
    > > > > The hell with Ford/GMC and Chrysler!
    > > > >
    > > > > Buy Jap where cart profits GO BACK TO JAPAN to support their

    economy!
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >






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