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- 09-23-2003, 07:05 PM #46Al KleinGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:00:36 GMT, Scott Stephenson
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
>Would you say PTT is more trivial than a camera phone?
Not if it's implemented properly. Verizon isn't quite there yet.
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- 09-23-2003, 07:05 PM #47Al KleinGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:00:36 GMT, Scott Stephenson
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
>Would you say PTT is more trivial than a camera phone?
Not if it's implemented properly. Verizon isn't quite there yet.
- 09-23-2003, 07:36 PM #48Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:00:36 GMT, Scott Stephenson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ray Dios wrote:
>> Forget PTT, that is trivial, you don't PTT when calling 911!
>> COVERAGE should be the foremost thing on anyone's mind when contracting with
>> a cell phone carrier. Remember, low rates and promotions / free phones tend
>> to cloud ones ability to reason when shopping for service. (Sprint and other
>> carriers other than Verizon, Nextel,Cingular and AT$T are good at this)
>> Your families lives could depend on it !
>> If you have a wife and children, shouldn't they should be equipped with a
>> phone that has the best coverage in the US?
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>Would you say PTT is more trivial than a camera phone?
>
PTT is moot with Alltel giving away unlimited M2M for $39 700 minute
plans...(c;
Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
Larry W4CSC
3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
- 09-23-2003, 07:36 PM #49Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:00:36 GMT, Scott Stephenson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ray Dios wrote:
>> Forget PTT, that is trivial, you don't PTT when calling 911!
>> COVERAGE should be the foremost thing on anyone's mind when contracting with
>> a cell phone carrier. Remember, low rates and promotions / free phones tend
>> to cloud ones ability to reason when shopping for service. (Sprint and other
>> carriers other than Verizon, Nextel,Cingular and AT$T are good at this)
>> Your families lives could depend on it !
>> If you have a wife and children, shouldn't they should be equipped with a
>> phone that has the best coverage in the US?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Would you say PTT is more trivial than a camera phone?
>
PTT is moot with Alltel giving away unlimited M2M for $39 700 minute
plans...(c;
Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
Larry W4CSC
3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
- 09-23-2003, 07:44 PM #50Scott StephensonGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
Larry W4CSC wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:00:36 GMT, Scott Stephenson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Ray Dios wrote:
>>
>>>Forget PTT, that is trivial, you don't PTT when calling 911!
>>>COVERAGE should be the foremost thing on anyone's mind when contracting with
>>>a cell phone carrier. Remember, low rates and promotions / free phones tend
>>>to cloud ones ability to reason when shopping for service. (Sprint and other
>>>carriers other than Verizon, Nextel,Cingular and AT$T are good at this)
>>>Your families lives could depend on it !
>>>If you have a wife and children, shouldn't they should be equipped with a
>>>phone that has the best coverage in the US?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Would you say PTT is more trivial than a camera phone?
>>
>
> PTT is moot with Alltel giving away unlimited M2M for $39 700 minute
> plans...(c;
>
> Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
>
>
>
> Larry W4CSC
>
> 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
> gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
> conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
Not really true- with one PTT, I can get a message to my entire group of
employees, no matter where I am or they are (group call). Don't think
anybody offers this as an easy duplex option.
- 09-23-2003, 07:44 PM #51Scott StephensonGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
Larry W4CSC wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:00:36 GMT, Scott Stephenson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Ray Dios wrote:
>>
>>>Forget PTT, that is trivial, you don't PTT when calling 911!
>>>COVERAGE should be the foremost thing on anyone's mind when contracting with
>>>a cell phone carrier. Remember, low rates and promotions / free phones tend
>>>to cloud ones ability to reason when shopping for service. (Sprint and other
>>>carriers other than Verizon, Nextel,Cingular and AT$T are good at this)
>>>Your families lives could depend on it !
>>>If you have a wife and children, shouldn't they should be equipped with a
>>>phone that has the best coverage in the US?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Would you say PTT is more trivial than a camera phone?
>>
>
> PTT is moot with Alltel giving away unlimited M2M for $39 700 minute
> plans...(c;
>
> Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
>
>
>
> Larry W4CSC
>
> 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
> gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
> conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
Not really true- with one PTT, I can get a message to my entire group of
employees, no matter where I am or they are (group call). Don't think
anybody offers this as an easy duplex option.
- 09-24-2003, 06:18 AM #52Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:55 GMT, Scott Stephenson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Not really true- with one PTT, I can get a message to my entire group of
>employees, no matter where I am or they are (group call). Don't think
>anybody offers this as an easy duplex option.
>
That is its only advantage. I still think anyone needing PTT would be
much better off on a trunked radio system with much more powerful
walkies that have telephone interconnect than these FRAGILE little toy
phones the employees crawling under houses can destroy in a week.
I've seen good ol Motorola trunked radios that look like someone drove
a Bradley Fighting Vehicle over that still work just fine....even with
the top half of the antenna missing and the spring wires sticking
out....(c;
Larry W4CSC
3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
- 09-24-2003, 06:18 AM #53Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:55 GMT, Scott Stephenson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Not really true- with one PTT, I can get a message to my entire group of
>employees, no matter where I am or they are (group call). Don't think
>anybody offers this as an easy duplex option.
>
That is its only advantage. I still think anyone needing PTT would be
much better off on a trunked radio system with much more powerful
walkies that have telephone interconnect than these FRAGILE little toy
phones the employees crawling under houses can destroy in a week.
I've seen good ol Motorola trunked radios that look like someone drove
a Bradley Fighting Vehicle over that still work just fine....even with
the top half of the antenna missing and the spring wires sticking
out....(c;
Larry W4CSC
3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
- 09-24-2003, 10:31 AM #54Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Larry W4CSC <[email protected]> said to him:
> Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
You've never worked with PTT extensively, have you?
Full duplex is *not* a complete substitute, by any stretch.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 09-24-2003, 10:31 AM #55Jay R. AshworthGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
Stanley settled back into the couch, and
Larry W4CSC <[email protected]> said to him:
> Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
You've never worked with PTT extensively, have you?
Full duplex is *not* a complete substitute, by any stretch.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
Member of the Technical Staff Baylink
The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think
Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274
God, unlike Anya, is fond of bunnies. -- Chelsea Christenson
- 09-24-2003, 06:19 PM #56Al KleinGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:36:54 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) posted
in alt.cellular.verizon:
>PTT is moot with Alltel giving away unlimited M2M for $39 700 minute
>plans...(c;
Same with Verizon's $39 plan. M2M, N+W are all unlimited.
>Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
Round table? A few words every 5 minutes? There are certain
advantages in a few limited cases.
- 09-24-2003, 06:19 PM #57Al KleinGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:36:54 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) posted
in alt.cellular.verizon:
>PTT is moot with Alltel giving away unlimited M2M for $39 700 minute
>plans...(c;
Same with Verizon's $39 plan. M2M, N+W are all unlimited.
>Who needs PTT when full duplex is UNLIMITED?!
Round table? A few words every 5 minutes? There are certain
advantages in a few limited cases.
- 09-24-2003, 07:11 PM #58Al KleinGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:18:47 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) posted
in alt.cellular.verizon:
>That is its only advantage. I still think anyone needing PTT would be
>much better off on a trunked radio system with much more powerful
>walkies that have telephone interconnect than these FRAGILE little toy
>phones the employees crawling under houses can destroy in a week.
>I've seen good ol Motorola trunked radios that look like someone drove
>a Bradley Fighting Vehicle over that still work just fine....even with
>the top half of the antenna missing and the spring wires sticking
>out....(c;
Until you have to go 3 states over. Then you need a cell phone or a
short contract with another repeater owner. Unless you're a ham and
aren't going to discuss business.
- 09-24-2003, 07:11 PM #59Al KleinGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:18:47 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) posted
in alt.cellular.verizon:
>That is its only advantage. I still think anyone needing PTT would be
>much better off on a trunked radio system with much more powerful
>walkies that have telephone interconnect than these FRAGILE little toy
>phones the employees crawling under houses can destroy in a week.
>I've seen good ol Motorola trunked radios that look like someone drove
>a Bradley Fighting Vehicle over that still work just fine....even with
>the top half of the antenna missing and the spring wires sticking
>out....(c;
Until you have to go 3 states over. Then you need a cell phone or a
short contract with another repeater owner. Unless you're a ham and
aren't going to discuss business.
- 09-24-2003, 07:41 PM #60Scott StephensonGuest
Re: One Good Reason?
Larry W4CSC wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:44:55 GMT, Scott Stephenson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Not really true- with one PTT, I can get a message to my entire group of
>>employees, no matter where I am or they are (group call). Don't think
>>anybody offers this as an easy duplex option.
>>
>
> That is its only advantage. I still think anyone needing PTT would be
> much better off on a trunked radio system with much more powerful
> walkies that have telephone interconnect than these FRAGILE little toy
> phones the employees crawling under houses can destroy in a week.
> I've seen good ol Motorola trunked radios that look like someone drove
> a Bradley Fighting Vehicle over that still work just fine....even with
> the top half of the antenna missing and the spring wires sticking
> out....(c;
>
>
>
>
>
> Larry W4CSC
>
> 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
> gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
> conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?
sounds like the Nextel i700 or their new version (i58 I think). Both
built to military standards. I used to drop my i700 off my belt quite
frequently, and it would bounce about 18 inches in the air. Never had a
problem.
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