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  1. #1
    Peter Pan
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    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
    > that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service

    make
    > false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
    > have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
    > advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
    > between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have

    been
    > taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
    > greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
    > fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
    > market.
    >
    > For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
    > - see this blurb from Reuters
    >
    >


    Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
    it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.





    See More: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless




  2. #2
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
    > that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service

    make
    > false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
    > have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
    > advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
    > between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have

    been
    > taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
    > greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
    > fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
    > market.
    >
    > For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
    > - see this blurb from Reuters
    >
    >


    Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
    it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.





  3. #3
    VZW Guy
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section

    --
    Statements made by me are of my opinion and knowledge, and do not
    express those by Verizon Wireless(R).
    Any information I give is subject to change without notice, and may not
    be completely accurate.


    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
    > > that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service

    > make
    > > false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
    > > have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
    > > advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
    > > between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have

    > been
    > > taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
    > > greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
    > > fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
    > > market.
    > >
    > > For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
    > > - see this blurb from Reuters
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
    > it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  4. #4
    VZW Guy
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section

    --
    Statements made by me are of my opinion and knowledge, and do not
    express those by Verizon Wireless(R).
    Any information I give is subject to change without notice, and may not
    be completely accurate.


    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon Wireless, claiming
    > > that Verizon Wireless' new advertisements for its push-to-talk service

    > make
    > > false claims about Nextel's network. Neither Nextel nor Verizon Wireless
    > > have yet to comment on the suit. U.S. carriers have stepped up their
    > > advertising battles in recent weeks. In addition to the growing fight
    > > between Nextel and Verizon Wireless, AT&T Wireless and Sprint PCS have

    > been
    > > taking pot shots at one another in recent months in an attempt to win a
    > > greater share of the mobile enterprise market. Most analysts see these
    > > fights as a sign of the growing saturation of the North American wireless
    > > market.
    > >
    > > For more on the Nextel, Verizon Wireless suit:
    > > - see this blurb from Reuters
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Where is the URL? I can't find out anything about it. I'm beginning to think
    > it is a hoax or urban legend, why it's not even on phonescoop.
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  5. #5
    Cell Academician
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
    > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
    > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
    > false claims about Nextel's network.


    Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
    coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
    times.

    Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
    to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
    best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
    If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
    terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
    have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
    ads never said that.

    Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing. Implicature is
    used all the time in advertising. Nextel is very foolish
    to give all this free advertising to Verizon, rather than
    countering with ads that show how much better Nextel's
    PTT is than Verizon's. Nextel can legitmately claim to
    have the best PTT network, they are under no obligation
    to talk about the coverage issue.

    Verizon customers that expect Nextel-like PTT quality will
    be disappointed.

    Nextel customers that expect Verizon-like coverage will be
    disappointed.

    "Best" is such a vague term. It's like all the car dealers
    that claim to be "#1" or "largest."


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  6. #6
    Cell Academician
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
    > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
    > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
    > false claims about Nextel's network.


    Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
    coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
    times.

    Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
    to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
    best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
    If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
    terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
    have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
    ads never said that.

    Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing. Implicature is
    used all the time in advertising. Nextel is very foolish
    to give all this free advertising to Verizon, rather than
    countering with ads that show how much better Nextel's
    PTT is than Verizon's. Nextel can legitmately claim to
    have the best PTT network, they are under no obligation
    to talk about the coverage issue.

    Verizon customers that expect Nextel-like PTT quality will
    be disappointed.

    Nextel customers that expect Verizon-like coverage will be
    disappointed.

    "Best" is such a vague term. It's like all the car dealers
    that claim to be "#1" or "largest."


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  7. #7
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    No Article matches for "nextel suing verizon" on CNN.com
    No Article matches for "nextel sues verizon" on CNN.com

    I guess CNN.com must think it is "somewhere" in the Technology section,
    too.

    For your own results, visit CNN.com and search for the article.

    AD

    VZW Guy wrote:
    > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
    >





  8. #8
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    No Article matches for "nextel suing verizon" on CNN.com
    No Article matches for "nextel sues verizon" on CNN.com

    I guess CNN.com must think it is "somewhere" in the Technology section,
    too.

    For your own results, visit CNN.com and search for the article.

    AD

    VZW Guy wrote:
    > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
    >





  9. #9
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
    and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
    a nonexpiring link.

    AD

    VZW Guy wrote:
    > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
    >





  10. #10
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
    and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
    a nonexpiring link.

    AD

    VZW Guy wrote:
    > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
    >





  11. #11
    Greg-EE
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    Why don't you try searching this newsgroup
    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
    > and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
    > a nonexpiring link.
    >
    > AD
    >
    > VZW Guy wrote:
    > > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
    > >

    >






  12. #12
    Greg-EE
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    Why don't you try searching this newsgroup
    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I couldn't find anything about that on CNN.com. Try going to CNN.com
    > and searching, and let me know if you find anything, and please provide
    > a nonexpiring link.
    >
    > AD
    >
    > VZW Guy wrote:
    > > I now it was on CNN.com in the Technolgy section
    > >

    >






  13. #13
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Cell Academician) wrote:

    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
    > > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
    > > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
    > > false claims about Nextel's network.

    >
    > Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
    > coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
    > times.
    >
    > Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
    > to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
    > best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
    > If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
    > terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
    > have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
    > ads never said that.
    >
    > Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing.



    They are showing two things that flat doon't happen. It is totally
    misleading and therefore illegal.

    1. They incorrectly show a presumed Nextel user not be able to do Walkie
    Talkie. It would never happen that way. On a Nextel if you push to
    talk, and you get the TONE, your party is there. The TONE would not tone
    if your party was not available.

    2. They show the Verizon man pushing to talk and getting a signal
    instantly. IT NEVER HAPPENS THAT FAST on a Verizon. Twelve seconds is
    more like it.



  14. #14
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]om (Cell Academician) wrote:

    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
    > > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
    > > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
    > > false claims about Nextel's network.

    >
    > Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
    > coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
    > times.
    >
    > Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
    > to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
    > best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
    > If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
    > terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
    > have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
    > ads never said that.
    >
    > Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing.



    They are showing two things that flat doon't happen. It is totally
    misleading and therefore illegal.

    1. They incorrectly show a presumed Nextel user not be able to do Walkie
    Talkie. It would never happen that way. On a Nextel if you push to
    talk, and you get the TONE, your party is there. The TONE would not tone
    if your party was not available.

    2. They show the Verizon man pushing to talk and getting a signal
    instantly. IT NEVER HAPPENS THAT FAST on a Verizon. Twelve seconds is
    more like it.



  15. #15
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Nextel sues Verizon Wireless


    "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Cell Academician) wrote:
    >
    > > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > > Nextel Communications today filed suit against Verizon
    > > > Wireless, claiming that Verizon Wireless' new
    > > > advertisements for its push-to-talk service make
    > > > false claims about Nextel's network.

    > >
    > > Actually Verizon is simply emphasizing their own superior
    > > coverage, while ignoring the difference in PTT connect
    > > times.
    > >
    > > Verizon's claim of the "best, most reliable network" is open
    > > to interpretation. If they mean that their network has the
    > > best, most reliable coverage, then they are telling the truth.
    > > If they are saying that they have the best PTT product in
    > > terms of actual operation in areas where both carriers
    > > have coverage, then they are lying, but of course their
    > > ads never said that.
    > >
    > > Nothing illegal in what Verizon is doing.

    >
    >
    > They are showing two things that flat doon't happen. It is totally
    > misleading and therefore illegal.
    >
    > 1. They incorrectly show a presumed Nextel user not be able to do Walkie
    > Talkie. It would never happen that way. On a Nextel if you push to
    > talk, and you get the TONE, your party is there. The TONE would not tone
    > if your party was not available.
    >
    > 2. They show the Verizon man pushing to talk and getting a signal
    > instantly. IT NEVER HAPPENS THAT FAST on a Verizon. Twelve seconds is
    > more like it.


    Which begs the question, if it takes 12 seconds for the initial connection
    on the Verizon PTT, why not just call the person? Then you don't sound like
    a damned dump truck backing up.





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