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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    approaches.

    For more on Cingular's warning:
    - read this
    http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    CNET


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  2. #2
    Chris Russell
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    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    Interesting that there is no release available on Cingular's website in
    the Newsroom area.

    --
    Chris

    Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    > nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    > they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    > cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    > follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    > the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    > (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    > number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    > subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    > carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    > This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    > approaches.
    >
    > For more on Cingular's warning:
    > - read this
    > http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    > CNET
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  3. #3
    Chris Russell
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    Interesting that there is no release available on Cingular's website in
    the Newsroom area.

    --
    Chris

    Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    > nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    > they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    > cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    > follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    > the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    > (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    > number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    > subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    > carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    > This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    > approaches.
    >
    > For more on Cingular's warning:
    > - read this
    > http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    > CNET
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  4. #4
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    In alt.cellular.sprintpcs PDA Man <[email protected]> wrote:
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete.


    Cingular is SBC+Bellsouth. What do you expect?


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  5. #5
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    In alt.cellular.sprintpcs PDA Man <[email protected]> wrote:
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete.


    Cingular is SBC+Bellsouth. What do you expect?


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    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * [email protected]



  6. #6
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    Cingular could just be warning customers about the actual procedures.
    It is possible that if you cancel with Cingular, then 5 minutes later
    switch to Verizon (or vice versa), your telephone number could be
    "disconnected". We all know it's going to take more to switch and keep
    your phone number than 2 simple phone calls (it would be nice, wouldn't
    it?). I think that consumers should be warned that bugs are going to be
    out there, there may be legal complications (cell phone home areas are
    larger than landline local areas) and other issues which we cannot yet
    seem to imagine.

    We all know Verizon invested the most capital into fighting number
    portability in the beginning, too.

    Just my 2c...

    AD

    PDA Man wrote:
    > Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    > nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    > they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    > cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    > follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    > the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    > (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    > number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    > subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    > carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    > This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    > approaches.
    >
    > For more on Cingular's warning:
    > - read this
    > http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    > CNET
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    >





  7. #7
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    Cingular could just be warning customers about the actual procedures.
    It is possible that if you cancel with Cingular, then 5 minutes later
    switch to Verizon (or vice versa), your telephone number could be
    "disconnected". We all know it's going to take more to switch and keep
    your phone number than 2 simple phone calls (it would be nice, wouldn't
    it?). I think that consumers should be warned that bugs are going to be
    out there, there may be legal complications (cell phone home areas are
    larger than landline local areas) and other issues which we cannot yet
    seem to imagine.

    We all know Verizon invested the most capital into fighting number
    portability in the beginning, too.

    Just my 2c...

    AD

    PDA Man wrote:
    > Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    > nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    > they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    > cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    > follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    > the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    > (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    > number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    > subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    > carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    > This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    > approaches.
    >
    > For more on Cingular's warning:
    > - read this
    > http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    > CNET
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    >





  8. #8
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    This seems to mostly a warning that everything may not transfer all that
    easily. But should you expect it to? Some services provided by some
    carriers are not going to be provided by others. There is much to the
    portability issue than meets the naked eye. What of such issues as
    voice-mail and SMS. People will want the whole pudding to come across
    with their switch. This is not a claim of intent to tamper.

    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    > nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    > they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    > cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    > follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    > the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    > (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    > number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    > subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    > carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    > This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    > approaches.
    >
    > For more on Cingular's warning:
    > - read this
    > http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    > CNET
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #9
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    This seems to mostly a warning that everything may not transfer all that
    easily. But should you expect it to? Some services provided by some
    carriers are not going to be provided by others. There is much to the
    portability issue than meets the naked eye. What of such issues as
    voice-mail and SMS. People will want the whole pudding to come across
    with their switch. This is not a claim of intent to tamper.

    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Cingular Wireless yesterday warned U.S. wireless customers that the
    > nationwide shift to wireless number portability will not go as smoothly as
    > they might wish. The carrier said that customers who switch service after
    > the deadline on November 24 may lose basic parts of their service for hours
    > before their switch is complete. Cingular also warned that subscribers who
    > cancel their service plans may lose their phone numbers if they do not
    > follow proper procedures. This announcement is part of a campaign by most of
    > the leading U.S. carriers, which oppose the FCC's local number portability
    > (LNP) requirement. The only major carrier thus far to embrace the shift to
    > number portability is Verizon Wireless, which expects to take existing
    > subscribers away from rival carriers after the deadline passes. The other
    > carriers hope to discourage subscribers from switching service providers.
    > This campaign is expected to intensify as the number portability deadline
    > approaches.
    >
    > For more on Cingular's warning:
    > - read this
    > http://lists.fiercemarkets.com/c.htm...5ez5,b48k,hbcp
    > CNET
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  10. #10
    O/Siris .
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Cingular could just be warning customers about the actual procedures.
    > It is possible that if you cancel with Cingular, then 5 minutes later
    > switch to Verizon (or vice versa), your telephone number could be
    > "disconnected". We all know it's going to take more to switch and keep
    > your phone number than 2 simple phone calls (it would be nice, wouldn't
    > it?). I think that consumers should be warned that bugs are going to be
    > out there, there may be legal complications (cell phone home areas are
    > larger than landline local areas) and other issues which we cannot yet
    > seem to imagine.
    >
    > We all know Verizon invested the most capital into fighting number
    > portability in the beginning, too.
    >
    > Just my 2c...
    >
    > AD
    >


    That's actually *not* how WLNP will work once it's active. We're
    getting the first details on it now.

    If you cancel with your current provider first, then your number will
    *not* port out (not from Sprint). I suppose because that instantly
    makes the number no longer yours. Instead, you will sign up with the
    other carrier, the one *to* whom you will take your number, and announce
    that you are bringing a number over from (for example) us. The porting
    is then done between carriers, not between the respective carriers and
    the customer.

    --
    -+-
    R
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  11. #11
    O/Siris .
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    About Dakota <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Cingular could just be warning customers about the actual procedures.
    > It is possible that if you cancel with Cingular, then 5 minutes later
    > switch to Verizon (or vice versa), your telephone number could be
    > "disconnected". We all know it's going to take more to switch and keep
    > your phone number than 2 simple phone calls (it would be nice, wouldn't
    > it?). I think that consumers should be warned that bugs are going to be
    > out there, there may be legal complications (cell phone home areas are
    > larger than landline local areas) and other issues which we cannot yet
    > seem to imagine.
    >
    > We all know Verizon invested the most capital into fighting number
    > portability in the beginning, too.
    >
    > Just my 2c...
    >
    > AD
    >


    That's actually *not* how WLNP will work once it's active. We're
    getting the first details on it now.

    If you cancel with your current provider first, then your number will
    *not* port out (not from Sprint). I suppose because that instantly
    makes the number no longer yours. Instead, you will sign up with the
    other carrier, the one *to* whom you will take your number, and announce
    that you are bringing a number over from (for example) us. The porting
    is then done between carriers, not between the respective carriers and
    the customer.

    --
    -+-
    R
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  12. #12
    Arthur Dent
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings


    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Cingular could just be warning customers about the actual procedures.
    > It is possible that if you cancel with Cingular, then 5 minutes later
    > switch to Verizon (or vice versa), your telephone number could be
    > "disconnected". We all know it's going to take more to switch and keep
    > your phone number than 2 simple phone calls (it would be nice, wouldn't
    > it?).


    actually, it will take only 2 phone calls.

    the first call is from the provider that the customer is switching *to.*
    the new provider will then send a request to the customer's current provider
    for the number to port over.

    the new provider will activate a new account for the customer with an
    internal system number that will allow the customer to make outbound calls
    until the dialable number is ported over from the old carrier.

    while the number is being ported, the customer will be able to make outbound
    calls, but will not be able to recieve inbound calls on the new phone, but
    rather the phone connected to the old carrier.

    when the customer has been fully activated, then the customer can call the
    old provider to termintate the subscription associated with the number
    ported to the new carrier.





  13. #13
    Arthur Dent
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings


    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Cingular could just be warning customers about the actual procedures.
    > It is possible that if you cancel with Cingular, then 5 minutes later
    > switch to Verizon (or vice versa), your telephone number could be
    > "disconnected". We all know it's going to take more to switch and keep
    > your phone number than 2 simple phone calls (it would be nice, wouldn't
    > it?).


    actually, it will take only 2 phone calls.

    the first call is from the provider that the customer is switching *to.*
    the new provider will then send a request to the customer's current provider
    for the number to port over.

    the new provider will activate a new account for the customer with an
    internal system number that will allow the customer to make outbound calls
    until the dialable number is ported over from the old carrier.

    while the number is being ported, the customer will be able to make outbound
    calls, but will not be able to recieve inbound calls on the new phone, but
    rather the phone connected to the old carrier.

    when the customer has been fully activated, then the customer can call the
    old provider to termintate the subscription associated with the number
    ported to the new carrier.





  14. #14
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]ntpcs.cm (O/Siris .) wrote:

    > That's actually *not* how WLNP will work once it's active. We're
    > getting the first details on it now.


    Its how Cingular says it WILL work at Cingular.



  15. #15
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]ntpcs.cm (O/Siris .) wrote:

    > That's actually *not* how WLNP will work once it's active. We're
    > getting the first details on it now.


    Its how Cingular says it WILL work at Cingular.



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