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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    Well that didnt take too long folks!

    THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate. Lawmakers from both
    parties uniformly blasted a decision by U.S. District Judge Lee R. West, who
    ruled Tuesday that the Federal Trade Commission lacked authority to create
    and operate the registry.
    "The judge in this case is dead wrong and I'm sure his decision will
    in turn be overturned," said Rep. Billy Tauzin, R-La., chairman of the House
    Energy and Commerce Committee. "We should probably call the bill 'This Time
    We Really Mean It Act' to cure any myopia in the judicial branch. The bill
    leaves no doubt as to the intent of Congress."
    The bill says the FTC may operate the list, which was approved by
    Congress last year and is scheduled to take effect Wednesday. The Senate was
    expected to pass similar legislation Thursday.
    If the bill passes both chambers and is signed into law by President
    Bush, that does not automatically nullify the court order. West, the
    Oklahoma City judge must still dismiss the case brought by telemarketers in
    order for the list to move ahead.
    White House spokesman Scott McClellan would not firmly commit Bush to
    signing legislation on the registry, but he said the administration
    disagrees with the ruling and supports the efforts in Congress to keep the
    do-not-call list on schedule.
    The bills were hastily drafted Wednesday. The speed with which
    Congress acted underscored the popularity of the list, which after less than
    four months already has nearly 51 million numbers.
    "This legislation got to the House floor faster than a consumer can
    hang up on a telemarketer at dinnertime," said Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass.
    The FTC expects the list to block 80 percent of telemarketing calls.
    Exemptions include calls from charities, pollsters and on behalf of
    politicians.
    The FTC's rules require telemarketers to check the list every three
    months to see who doesn't want to be called. Those who call listed people
    could be fined up to $11,000 for each violation. Consumers would file
    complaints to an automated phone or online system.
    The FTC is moving ahead with the list despite the court ruling and is
    encouraging consumers to continue signing up.
    "One way or another we believe this District Court decision will not
    stand in the way," said Eileen Harrington, the FTC's director of marketing
    practices. The FTC has asked the judge to delay the decision while it files
    an appeal. Telemarketers say the list would devastate their industry and
    lead to the loss of thousands of jobs. The Direct Marketing Association, one
    of the groups that challenged the registry, said it hadn't decided whether
    its members would stop calling people on the list starting next Wednesday.
    West ruled late Tuesday that the Federal Communications Commission,
    not the FTC, has the authority to oversee a national do-not-call registry.
    West said recently adopted rules that allowed the FTC to create such
    a list were invalid. But he did not issue an order directing the FTC to stop
    the list.
    During the House debate, Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., held up a piece of
    paper he said had the judge's phone number written on it and jokingly
    threatened to distribute it.
    That idea had already occurred to angry consumers, who posted the
    judge's office and home telephone numbers on Web sites after the ruling and
    encouraged people to call and complain.
    Since the FTC opened the do-not-call list for registration in June,
    people have submitted 31.1 million phone numbers at the Web site
    www.donotcall.gov and 10.9 million by calling toll-free at 1-888-382-1222.
    An additional 8.6 million numbers were transferred from existing state
    lists.
    There are about 166 million residential phone numbers in the United
    States and an additional 150 million cell phone numbers.






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  2. #2
    Peter Pan
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    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    >
    > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.


    Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even better,
    how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our free
    evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?





  3. #3
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    >
    > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.


    Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even better,
    how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our free
    evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?





  4. #4
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    > >
    > > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.

    >
    > Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even better,
    > how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our free
    > evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?
    >
    >


    In which case, you had better not call them after 9PM (or is it 8PM) in
    their local time.

    Tom Veldhouse





  5. #5
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    > >
    > > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.

    >
    > Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even better,
    > how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our free
    > evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?
    >
    >


    In which case, you had better not call them after 9PM (or is it 8PM) in
    their local time.

    Tom Veldhouse





  6. #6
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    > >
    > > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.

    >
    > Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even

    better,
    > how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our

    free
    > evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?


    Ask and ye shall receive ... from the following web article -
    http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D7TPJDJ81.html

    The eight who voted against the bill were: Ron Paul, R-Texas; Jeff
    Flake, R-Ariz.; Kendrick Meek, D-Fla.; Tim Ryan, D-Ohio; Ted
    Strickland, D-Ohio; Lee Terry, R-Neb.; Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and Chris
    Cannon, R-Utah.

    Bob





  7. #7
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    > >
    > > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.

    >
    > Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even

    better,
    > how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our

    free
    > evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?


    Ask and ye shall receive ... from the following web article -
    http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D7TPJDJ81.html

    The eight who voted against the bill were: Ron Paul, R-Texas; Jeff
    Flake, R-Ariz.; Kendrick Meek, D-Fla.; Tim Ryan, D-Ohio; Ted
    Strickland, D-Ohio; Lee Terry, R-Neb.; Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and Chris
    Cannon, R-Utah.

    Bob





  8. #8
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    > > >
    > > > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.

    > >
    > > Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even

    > better,
    > > how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our

    > free
    > > evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?

    >
    > Ask and ye shall receive ... from the following web article -
    > http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D7TPJDJ81.html
    >
    > The eight who voted against the bill were: Ron Paul, R-Texas; Jeff
    > Flake, R-Ariz.; Kendrick Meek, D-Fla.; Tim Ryan, D-Ohio; Ted
    > Strickland, D-Ohio; Lee Terry, R-Neb.; Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and Chris
    > Cannon, R-Utah.
    >
    > Bob



    Wonder who was paying them.





  9. #9
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Well that didnt take too long folks!
    > > >
    > > > THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.

    > >
    > > Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even

    > better,
    > > how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our

    > free
    > > evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?

    >
    > Ask and ye shall receive ... from the following web article -
    > http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D7TPJDJ81.html
    >
    > The eight who voted against the bill were: Ron Paul, R-Texas; Jeff
    > Flake, R-Ariz.; Kendrick Meek, D-Fla.; Tim Ryan, D-Ohio; Ted
    > Strickland, D-Ohio; Lee Terry, R-Neb.; Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and Chris
    > Cannon, R-Utah.
    >
    > Bob



    Wonder who was paying them.





  10. #10
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill

    In message <<[email protected]>> "Thomas T.
    Veldhouse" <[email protected]> did ramble:

    >In which case, you had better not call them after 9PM (or is it 8PM) in
    >their local time.


    Why not? I'll invest into a payphone call and offer to sell them a large
    bucket of steaming dog****.

    --
    If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've had twice as much fun as you.



  11. #11
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill

    In message <<[email protected]>> "Thomas T.
    Veldhouse" <[email protected]> did ramble:

    >In which case, you had better not call them after 9PM (or is it 8PM) in
    >their local time.


    Why not? I'll invest into a payphone call and offer to sell them a large
    bucket of steaming dog****.

    --
    If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've had twice as much fun as you.



  12. #12
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill

    It's not about politics it's about money. They own interest in
    telemarketing organizations. They do want to see a return. But they
    want to see a return in money, not in angry people.

    Is it constitutional that I pay for a service, for my personal use, and
    others can call me using that service without my permission?

    AD

    Justin wrote:
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>"Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]
    >>>
    >>>>Well that didnt take too long folks!
    >>>>
    >>>>THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.
    >>>
    >>>Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even

    >>
    >>better,
    >>
    >>>how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our

    >>
    >>free
    >>
    >>>evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?

    >>
    >>Ask and ye shall receive ... from the following web article -
    >>http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D7TPJDJ81.html
    >>
    >>The eight who voted against the bill were: Ron Paul, R-Texas; Jeff
    >>Flake, R-Ariz.; Kendrick Meek, D-Fla.; Tim Ryan, D-Ohio; Ted
    >>Strickland, D-Ohio; Lee Terry, R-Neb.; Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and Chris
    >>Cannon, R-Utah.
    >>
    >>Bob

    >
    >
    >
    > Wonder who was paying them.
    >
    >





  13. #13
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill

    It's not about politics it's about money. They own interest in
    telemarketing organizations. They do want to see a return. But they
    want to see a return in money, not in angry people.

    Is it constitutional that I pay for a service, for my personal use, and
    others can call me using that service without my permission?

    AD

    Justin wrote:
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>"Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]
    >>>
    >>>>Well that didnt take too long folks!
    >>>>
    >>>>THE HOUSE VOTED 412-8 after less than hour of debate.
    >>>
    >>>Anyone know who those 8 people that voted against it are, and even

    >>
    >>better,
    >>
    >>>how about their home telephone numbers so we can call em with our

    >>
    >>free
    >>
    >>>evening minutes and interrupt them when eating/sleeping etc?

    >>
    >>Ask and ye shall receive ... from the following web article -
    >>http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D7TPJDJ81.html
    >>
    >>The eight who voted against the bill were: Ron Paul, R-Texas; Jeff
    >>Flake, R-Ariz.; Kendrick Meek, D-Fla.; Tim Ryan, D-Ohio; Ted
    >>Strickland, D-Ohio; Lee Terry, R-Neb.; Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and Chris
    >>Cannon, R-Utah.
    >>
    >>Bob

    >
    >
    >
    > Wonder who was paying them.
    >
    >





  14. #14
    Justin Green
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > It's not about politics it's about money. They own interest in
    > telemarketing organizations. They do want to see a return. But they
    > want to see a return in money, not in angry people.
    >
    > Is it constitutional that I pay for a service, for my personal use, and
    > others can call me using that service without my permission?
    >
    > AD


    Right, I would think that the telemarketers have a lobby group and we know
    who got lobbied the most.





  15. #15
    Justin Green
    Guest

    Re: House Votes to Reinstate the "DO NOT CALL" Bill


    "About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > It's not about politics it's about money. They own interest in
    > telemarketing organizations. They do want to see a return. But they
    > want to see a return in money, not in angry people.
    >
    > Is it constitutional that I pay for a service, for my personal use, and
    > others can call me using that service without my permission?
    >
    > AD


    Right, I would think that the telemarketers have a lobby group and we know
    who got lobbied the most.





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