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  1. #1
    Tech Geek
    Guest


    "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Exactly.. and why should they?

    >
    >
    > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
    > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    >
    >


    But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    services yet keeping you number.

    So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    over to Verizon.

    I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    a few months until I get turned off.

    Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.


    This happens a lot more than most people realize.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



    See More: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)




  2. #2
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)


    "Tech Geek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Exactly.. and why should they?

    > >
    > >
    > > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues

    could
    > > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    > services yet keeping you number.
    >
    > So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    > number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    > up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    > bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    > racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    > Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    > over to Verizon.
    >
    > I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    > a few months until I get turned off.
    >
    > Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.
    >
    >
    > This happens a lot more than most people realize.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]



    I can definitely see it both ways. From a company's standpoint, it's a no
    brainer, but I could see some people getting screwed by it, too.





  3. #3
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)


    "Tech Geek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Exactly.. and why should they?

    > >
    > >
    > > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues

    could
    > > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    > services yet keeping you number.
    >
    > So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    > number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    > up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    > bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    > racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    > Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    > over to Verizon.
    >
    > I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    > a few months until I get turned off.
    >
    > Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.
    >
    >
    > This happens a lot more than most people realize.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]



    I can definitely see it both ways. From a company's standpoint, it's a no
    brainer, but I could see some people getting screwed by it, too.





  4. #4
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Tech Geek) wrote:

    >
    >
    > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Exactly.. and why should they?

    > >
    > >
    > > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
    > > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    > services yet keeping you number.
    >
    > So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    > number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    > up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    > bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    > racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    > Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    > over to Verizon.
    >
    > I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    > a few months until I get turned off.


    by this time Sprint hasn't reported you and ruined your credit?

    If Sprint doesn'r report people to credit agencies for nonpayment
    why should anyone worry about not paying an Early Termination Fee
    if Sprint tries to apply such?

    > Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.



    > This happens a lot more than most people realize.


    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




  5. #5
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Tech Geek) wrote:

    >
    >
    > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Exactly.. and why should they?

    > >
    > >
    > > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
    > > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    > services yet keeping you number.
    >
    > So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    > number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    > up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    > bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    > racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    > Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    > over to Verizon.
    >
    > I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    > a few months until I get turned off.


    by this time Sprint hasn't reported you and ruined your credit?

    If Sprint doesn'r report people to credit agencies for nonpayment
    why should anyone worry about not paying an Early Termination Fee
    if Sprint tries to apply such?

    > Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.



    > This happens a lot more than most people realize.


    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




  6. #6
    John Andrews
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)



    "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:

    > I can definitely see it both ways. From a company's standpoint, it's a no
    > brainer, but I could see some people getting screwed by it, too.


    With all the safeguards that are built into WLNP, peopel shouldnt get
    screwed, unless the create situation in first place...

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  7. #7
    John Andrews
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)



    "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:

    > I can definitely see it both ways. From a company's standpoint, it's a no
    > brainer, but I could see some people getting screwed by it, too.


    With all the safeguards that are built into WLNP, peopel shouldnt get
    screwed, unless the create situation in first place...

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  8. #8
    Justin For President
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)

    they do get reported it's just not immediately. cellular / utility
    bills are not revolving credit accounts. This varies from carrier to
    carrier but....

    Bad Debt with a Cell Company doesn't hit a credit report until they are
    disco'd for non pay and 120 days past due. thereafter the company will
    usually try to collect on their own for about 30 days w/o sending to a
    credit bureau. After those collection attempts fail, the debt then goes
    to outside collections where it will hit your credit report.

    then it will take time to hit the credit report because they are a
    BUREAU and things take time. It's contingent on when the collection
    agency sends the file and the BUREAU gets around to updating the file.

    Remember - these BUREAU's deal with millions of consumer records that
    each have between 1 to ? trade lines on each credit report - this
    information is constantly being updated. From personal installments
    debts, to credit cards, to mortgages, auto loans, and any request for
    credit a consumer makes. That's a lot of information.

    And by the way Sprint doesn't ruin your credit - you do, by being a dead
    beat and not paying your bills.

    It's statements like those that confirm why the average household
    carries about 8k in credit card debt for **** they have that they don't
    really need or can't afford in the first place.
    --


    "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Tech Geek) wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > >
    > > > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > > > Exactly.. and why should they?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
    > > > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    > > services yet keeping you number.
    > >
    > > So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    > > number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    > > up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    > > bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    > > racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    > > Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    > > over to Verizon.
    > >
    > > I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    > > a few months until I get turned off.

    >
    > by this time Sprint hasn't reported you and ruined your credit?
    >
    > If Sprint doesn'r report people to credit agencies for nonpayment
    > why should anyone worry about not paying an Early Termination Fee
    > if Sprint tries to apply such?
    >
    > > Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.

    >
    >
    > > This happens a lot more than most people realize.

    >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #9
    Justin For President
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)

    they do get reported it's just not immediately. cellular / utility
    bills are not revolving credit accounts. This varies from carrier to
    carrier but....

    Bad Debt with a Cell Company doesn't hit a credit report until they are
    disco'd for non pay and 120 days past due. thereafter the company will
    usually try to collect on their own for about 30 days w/o sending to a
    credit bureau. After those collection attempts fail, the debt then goes
    to outside collections where it will hit your credit report.

    then it will take time to hit the credit report because they are a
    BUREAU and things take time. It's contingent on when the collection
    agency sends the file and the BUREAU gets around to updating the file.

    Remember - these BUREAU's deal with millions of consumer records that
    each have between 1 to ? trade lines on each credit report - this
    information is constantly being updated. From personal installments
    debts, to credit cards, to mortgages, auto loans, and any request for
    credit a consumer makes. That's a lot of information.

    And by the way Sprint doesn't ruin your credit - you do, by being a dead
    beat and not paying your bills.

    It's statements like those that confirm why the average household
    carries about 8k in credit card debt for **** they have that they don't
    really need or can't afford in the first place.
    --


    "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Tech Geek) wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > >
    > > > "John Andrews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > > > Exactly.. and why should they?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > I could think of several legitimite reasons. In fact, billing issues could
    > > > be the reason some people leave in the first place.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > But also, if they didn't it would leave the door wide open for theft of
    > > services yet keeping you number.
    > >
    > > So, I sign up for service with SprintPCS. I get activated with a great
    > > number. Since I have good credit, I'm given a $600 temp. limit. I sign
    > > up for a $100/month plan, so after taxes, thats $125. If I never pay my
    > > bill, I'll have service for roughly 4-5 months (I know someone who
    > > racked up a $8000 bill and it took SprintPCS 6 months to turn her off).
    > > Sprint turns me off. Since I don't have to have my bill clear, I head
    > > over to Verizon.
    > >
    > > I still have good credit, so I sign up with them, don't pay my bill for
    > > a few months until I get turned off.

    >
    > by this time Sprint hasn't reported you and ruined your credit?
    >
    > If Sprint doesn'r report people to credit agencies for nonpayment
    > why should anyone worry about not paying an Early Termination Fee
    > if Sprint tries to apply such?
    >
    > > Head to Cingular, rince and repeat.

    >
    >
    > > This happens a lot more than most people realize.

    >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  10. #10
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Justin For President) wrote:

    > they do get reported it's just not immediately. cellular / utility
    > bills are not revolving credit accounts. This varies from carrier to
    > carrier but....
    >
    > Bad Debt with a Cell Company doesn't hit a credit report until they are
    > disco'd for non pay and 120 days past due. thereafter the company will
    > usually try to collect on their own for about 30 days w/o sending to a
    > credit bureau. After those collection attempts fail, the debt then goes
    > to outside collections where it will hit your credit report.
    >
    > then it will take time to hit the credit report because they are a
    > BUREAU and things take time. It's contingent on when the collection
    > agency sends the file and the BUREAU gets around to updating the file.
    >
    > Remember - these BUREAU's deal with millions of consumer records that
    > each have between 1 to ? trade lines on each credit report - this
    > information is constantly being updated. From personal installments
    > debts, to credit cards, to mortgages, auto loans, and any request for
    > credit a consumer makes. That's a lot of information.
    >
    > And by the way Sprint doesn't ruin your credit - you do, by being a dead
    > beat and not paying your bills.


    My bill for two phones and the Vision I used was under $30 this month.
    And its already paid in full, just like every month. I haven't incurred
    a late fee or interest charge in over 30 years.



  11. #11
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Clear Bills / WLNP (WAS:Re: news:Cingular Offers Number Portability Warnings)

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Justin For President) wrote:

    > they do get reported it's just not immediately. cellular / utility
    > bills are not revolving credit accounts. This varies from carrier to
    > carrier but....
    >
    > Bad Debt with a Cell Company doesn't hit a credit report until they are
    > disco'd for non pay and 120 days past due. thereafter the company will
    > usually try to collect on their own for about 30 days w/o sending to a
    > credit bureau. After those collection attempts fail, the debt then goes
    > to outside collections where it will hit your credit report.
    >
    > then it will take time to hit the credit report because they are a
    > BUREAU and things take time. It's contingent on when the collection
    > agency sends the file and the BUREAU gets around to updating the file.
    >
    > Remember - these BUREAU's deal with millions of consumer records that
    > each have between 1 to ? trade lines on each credit report - this
    > information is constantly being updated. From personal installments
    > debts, to credit cards, to mortgages, auto loans, and any request for
    > credit a consumer makes. That's a lot of information.
    >
    > And by the way Sprint doesn't ruin your credit - you do, by being a dead
    > beat and not paying your bills.


    My bill for two phones and the Vision I used was under $30 this month.
    And its already paid in full, just like every month. I haven't incurred
    a late fee or interest charge in over 30 years.



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