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  1. #1
    Peter Pan
    Guest
    Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!

    Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    phone line is tied up by telemarketers).

    For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    telemarketers!

    It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.

    Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!

    Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    tie up both his work and home phone lines!






    See More: Exercise your free speech rights!




  2. #2
    nogo
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    >
    > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    >
    > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > telemarketers!
    >
    > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    >
    > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    >
    > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    >
    >
    >
    >

    That's in the US right? I didn't realise an alt group = US! Who the hell
    cares in the bigger world. Your judge, your problem.

    Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!



  3. #3
    nogo
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    >
    > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    >
    > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > telemarketers!
    >
    > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    >
    > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    >
    > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    >
    >
    >
    >

    That's in the US right? I didn't realise an alt group = US! Who the hell
    cares in the bigger world. Your judge, your problem.

    Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!



  4. #4
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "nogo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    <snipped>
    > Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you,

    saviours -
    > I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    Right now, we'd rather have Saddam. If you pony him up, I'm sure
    someone would be at your doorstep with a generator, and a water tank
    truck within an hour ...

    Bob





  5. #5
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "nogo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    <snipped>
    > Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you,

    saviours -
    > I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    Right now, we'd rather have Saddam. If you pony him up, I'm sure
    someone would be at your doorstep with a generator, and a water tank
    truck within an hour ...

    Bob





  6. #6
    Paul Z. Delgado
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    Ummm... no disrespect intended, but if you had no power, doesn't that
    mean you couldn't use your computer to post messages to newsgroups?
    Actually, considering the fact that you in fact DO have power (enough to
    use for a luxury like a computer anyway), it seems to me that you have
    it better than most Iraqis. Why then, sir, are YOU the one complaining?

    And besides that, despite problems in foreign lands, we here in the US
    do (or maybe SHOULD, rather) have the right to express our opinions in
    whatever manner we see fit, whether
    it is through our voices in person or over the internet. Regardless of
    what is going on in other parts of the world, we still have that
    freedom. And that is part of the reason that America is as progressive a
    country as it is, the free exchange of ideas... no matter how trivial it
    might seem to others.

    However, all that being said, I am not entirely indifferent to the
    plight of your people. I am not heartless, and I sympathize with you and
    your fellow countrymen, I honestly do. It is my sincere hope that our
    troops and our government are doing everything they can to help you
    rebuild your country.

    P.S. - By the way, not everyone in this country agreed with the war in
    the first place. I hope you and all Iraqis realize that, at least to
    some extent.

    Respectfully,

    --
    Paul Z. Delgado
    Wireless Consultant
    Alltel, T-Mobile, Sprint PCS

    Wireless Plus
    www.wirelessflorida.net
    813.977.8646


    nogo <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    > > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    > > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    > >
    > > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    > > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    > > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    > >
    > > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > > telemarketers!
    > >
    > > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    > > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    > >
    > > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    > > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    > > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    > > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    > >
    > > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    > > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    > That's in the US right? I didn't realise an alt group = US! Who the hell
    > cares in the bigger world. Your judge, your problem.
    >
    > Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    > I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  7. #7
    Mark Allread
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:40:28 +0100, nogo <[email protected]> wrote:

    > That's in the US right? I didn't realise an alt group = US! Who the hell
    > cares in the bigger world. Your judge, your problem.
    >
    > Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    > I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    Read your headers, and follow the attribution chain.

    This thread originated on alt.cellular.verizon, a newsgroup dealing with a
    strictly US carrier. We have every right to be parochial.

    --
    Mark



  8. #8
    William Bray
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    I have an easy out. "Sir, do you realize that you've called a public
    pay phone?" Sales men hate that line. They will delete that number
    from their files. Doesn't work with computer generated messages.
    I give sales people hell for calling my land line. I tell them it is
    for emergency use only. Most tele-marketers will back down immediately.
    They can and do get sued for endangering the lives of others.
    (Provided you had a bonified emergency on hand at the time). Freedom of
    speech? I have the freedom to tell them to screw off.

    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    >
    > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    >
    > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > telemarketers!
    >
    > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    >
    > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    >
    > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    >
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #9
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    I heard a proposed idea that was actually free, know how they have hunting
    seasons on certain animals at certain times? Make the open season on
    telemarketers 364 days (can't shoot em on Christmas). Know how they have
    pictures of missing kids on milk cartons? Put pix of Telemarketers on beer
    cans. That way only people with guns have to spend MONEY on bullets, and if
    you really want to thin them out quickly, put a bounty on em! (Use the money
    saved by replacing shot up traffic signs to pay the bounties).


    "William Bray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I have an easy out. "Sir, do you realize that you've called a public
    > pay phone?" Sales men hate that line. They will delete that number
    > from their files. Doesn't work with computer generated messages.
    > I give sales people hell for calling my land line. I tell them it is
    > for emergency use only. Most tele-marketers will back down immediately.
    > They can and do get sued for endangering the lives of others.
    > (Provided you had a bonified emergency on hand at the time). Freedom of
    > speech? I have the freedom to tell them to screw off.
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]n.de>:
    > > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet

    he
    > > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    > >
    > > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the

    ability
    > > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact

    the
    > > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    > >
    > > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > > telemarketers!
    > >
    > > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for

    emergency
    > > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    > >
    > > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep

    it
    > > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in

    with
    > > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his

    stupidity,
    > > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    > >
    > > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right

    to
    > > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]






  10. #10
    mikey
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    Not a typical Iraqi: He cares what we said for telephone marketing and he
    runs computer without power.... hmm..



    "nogo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet

    he
    > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    >
    > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the

    ability
    > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    >
    > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > telemarketers!
    >
    > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    >
    > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep

    it
    > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in

    with
    > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his

    stupidity,
    > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    >
    > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    >
    >
    >
    >

    That's in the US right? I didn't realise an alt group = US! Who the hell
    cares in the bigger world. Your judge, your problem.

    Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!





  11. #11
    Carl.
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    "nogo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    > I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    We don't particularly need it. A gallon of purified water here doesn't have
    a significant difference in price from a gallon of refined gasoline (tap
    water here is nasty). But the store occassionally doesn't have enough jugs
    of water while the local gas station has yet to ever be out of gas when I
    need it. So as it stands, I'd rather not trade a gallon of good water for a
    gallon of gas.


    ---
    Update your PC at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
    Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 9/24/2003





  12. #12

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    nogo <[email protected]> lied:

    >Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    >I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    Not even a good try--

    NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc2-linc2-3-0-cust14.nott.cable.ntl.com
    (81.96.179.14)

    Results:
    % This is the RIPE Whois server.
    % The objects are in RPSL format.
    %
    % Rights restricted by copyright.
    % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-serv...copyright.html

    inetnum: 81.96.160.0 - 81.96.191.255
    netname: NTL
    descr: NTL Infrastructure - Nottingham
    country: GB
    admin-c: NNMC1-RIPE
    tech-c: NNMC1-RIPE
    status: ASSIGNED PA
    mnt-by: AS5089-MNT
    remarks: INFRA-AW
    changed: [email protected] 20020716
    source: RIPE

    route: 81.96.0.0/12
    descr: NTL-UK-IP-BLOCK
    origin: AS5089
    mnt-by: AS5089-MNT
    changed: [email protected] 20020614
    source: RIPE

    role: NTLI Network Management Centre
    address: NTL Internet
    address: Crawley Court
    address: Winchester
    address: Hampshire
    address: SO21 2QA



  13. #13
    Alex Mikey
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    You have a right to call him for a purpose. Calling for no reason, time
    and time again isn't covered under freedom of speech, it's covered under
    harrassment.

    Telemarketer's may harrass you, but until they do they have a right to
    call and ask if you'd like to buy random item A or B. Once they start
    harrassing you, it's a different story, but there's certainly no
    comparison to harrassing an appointed Judge for doing what he think's is
    'right'.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  14. #14
    Alex Mikey
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    You have a right to call him for a purpose. Calling for no reason, time
    and time again isn't covered under freedom of speech, it's covered under
    harrassment.

    Telemarketer's may harrass you, but until they do they have a right to
    call and ask if you'd like to buy random item A or B. Once they start
    harrassing you, it's a different story, but there's certainly no
    comparison to harrassing an appointed Judge for doing what he think's is
    'right'.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  15. #15
    Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    [email protected] wrote:

    >Not even a good try--
    >
    >NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc2-linc2-3-0-cust14.nott.cable.ntl.com
    >(81.96.179.14)


    And I thought I was the only one who has seen that :-))





    regards - Ralph

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