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  1. #1
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest
    After a full day of watching football, I noticed quite a few Verizon
    commercials. They were all older commercials, and none of them mentioned
    PTT. In addition, the PTT advertisement on their hone page was replaced
    with a camera phone about three days ago. Finally, the advertising in the
    Sunday paper mentions nothing about PTT (this hasn't been the case for the
    last few weeks). Have they given up, or does this mean that there might
    have been some merit in the lawsuit filed by Nextel? With nothing else new
    to advertise, it seems like an awful lot of money has been sunk into a
    product that they choose not to advertise. And all of this happening very
    early in the product lifecycle can not be a good thing.



    See More: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?




  2. #2
    David Domanski
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?


    Older commercials are always re-run. Picture phones for Verizon are
    still quite new and with all the 'kids' going back to school I
    personally would say its a safe bet as to why PTT service and phones
    have taken a back seat. More than likely because Verizon feels Camera
    phones and college and high school students would like those more than
    the warmed over '2-way' services.

    To explain in simple terms.....Camera Phones are the 'thing'.

    Oh, a small side note i read a email that stated in the first quarter
    2003 the sale of camera phones has exceeded that of normal digital
    cameras Industry wide.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  3. #3
    David Domanski
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?


    Older commercials are always re-run. Picture phones for Verizon are
    still quite new and with all the 'kids' going back to school I
    personally would say its a safe bet as to why PTT service and phones
    have taken a back seat. More than likely because Verizon feels Camera
    phones and college and high school students would like those more than
    the warmed over '2-way' services.

    To explain in simple terms.....Camera Phones are the 'thing'.

    Oh, a small side note i read a email that stated in the first quarter
    2003 the sale of camera phones has exceeded that of normal digital
    cameras Industry wide.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  4. #4
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    David Domanski wrote:

    >
    > Older commercials are always re-run. Picture phones for Verizon are
    > still quite new and with all the 'kids' going back to school I
    > personally would say its a safe bet as to why PTT service and phones
    > have taken a back seat. More than likely because Verizon feels Camera
    > phones and college and high school students would like those more than
    > the warmed over '2-way' services.
    >
    > To explain in simple terms.....Camera Phones are the 'thing'.
    >
    > Oh, a small side note i read a email that stated in the first quarter
    > 2003 the sale of camera phones has exceeded that of normal digital
    > cameras Industry wide.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]



    Two things:

    1. Explain "warmed over" when referring to the newest technology Verizon
    has to offer.
    2. Could the reason for the statistic you were reading about (digital vs.
    phone cameras) be that digital camera sales are slowing down due to the age
    of the product (many people had digital camreas before 1Q 2003)?



  5. #5
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    David Domanski wrote:

    >
    > Older commercials are always re-run. Picture phones for Verizon are
    > still quite new and with all the 'kids' going back to school I
    > personally would say its a safe bet as to why PTT service and phones
    > have taken a back seat. More than likely because Verizon feels Camera
    > phones and college and high school students would like those more than
    > the warmed over '2-way' services.
    >
    > To explain in simple terms.....Camera Phones are the 'thing'.
    >
    > Oh, a small side note i read a email that stated in the first quarter
    > 2003 the sale of camera phones has exceeded that of normal digital
    > cameras Industry wide.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]



    Two things:

    1. Explain "warmed over" when referring to the newest technology Verizon
    has to offer.
    2. Could the reason for the statistic you were reading about (digital vs.
    phone cameras) be that digital camera sales are slowing down due to the age
    of the product (many people had digital camreas before 1Q 2003)?



  6. #6
    David Domanski
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    When i said 'warmed over' i wasn't referring to Verizon's endeavor. I
    was referring to the masses buying PTT or 2-way service because its the
    'new' thing. Seems now that most people who want PTT/2-way service
    have it now.

    Now all the rage is camera phones. Practically no one has them and most
    everyone wants one. Think about it PTT service itself has been around
    with Nextel for almost 10 years. Camera Phones have been around for
    what? 1 Year? 2 years at MOST.



    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  7. #7
    David Domanski
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    When i said 'warmed over' i wasn't referring to Verizon's endeavor. I
    was referring to the masses buying PTT or 2-way service because its the
    'new' thing. Seems now that most people who want PTT/2-way service
    have it now.

    Now all the rage is camera phones. Practically no one has them and most
    everyone wants one. Think about it PTT service itself has been around
    with Nextel for almost 10 years. Camera Phones have been around for
    what? 1 Year? 2 years at MOST.



    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  8. #8
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    David Domanski wrote:

    > When i said 'warmed over' i wasn't referring to Verizon's endeavor. I
    > was referring to the masses buying PTT or 2-way service because its the
    > 'new' thing. Seems now that most people who want PTT/2-way service
    > have it now.
    >


    Yeah- OK. They spent all that money for a product that had a shelf life of
    a month. I don't that even the most diehard Verizon posters are buying
    that.

    > Now all the rage is camera phones. Practically no one has them and most
    > everyone wants one. Think about it PTT service itself has been around
    > with Nextel for almost 10 years. Camera Phones have been around for
    > what? 1 Year? 2 years at MOST.
    >
    >


    If I don't get any more delight than listening to the backpedaling on PTT, I
    will die a happy man. I'm glad you think that camera phones are the new
    hoth thing- too bad the supply is going to be a little tight, and the phone
    Verizon will be selling wasn't their first choice (what does that say about
    quality).



    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]





  9. #9
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    David Domanski wrote:

    > When i said 'warmed over' i wasn't referring to Verizon's endeavor. I
    > was referring to the masses buying PTT or 2-way service because its the
    > 'new' thing. Seems now that most people who want PTT/2-way service
    > have it now.
    >


    Yeah- OK. They spent all that money for a product that had a shelf life of
    a month. I don't that even the most diehard Verizon posters are buying
    that.

    > Now all the rage is camera phones. Practically no one has them and most
    > everyone wants one. Think about it PTT service itself has been around
    > with Nextel for almost 10 years. Camera Phones have been around for
    > what? 1 Year? 2 years at MOST.
    >
    >


    If I don't get any more delight than listening to the backpedaling on PTT, I
    will die a happy man. I'm glad you think that camera phones are the new
    hoth thing- too bad the supply is going to be a little tight, and the phone
    Verizon will be selling wasn't their first choice (what does that say about
    quality).



    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]





  10. #10
    David Domanski
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?



    Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > >

    >
    > If I don't get any more delight than listening to the backpedaling on PTT, I
    > will die a happy man. I'm glad you think that camera phones are the new
    > hoth thing- too bad the supply is going to be a little tight, and the phone
    > Verizon will be selling wasn't their first choice (what does that say about
    > quality).
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >


    Backpeddling? Will Be? Man your lost aren't you?

    Whats happening ALL over the country now? You got it kids are getting
    back to school starting new grades in high school or new years in
    college and what is aimed more at the youth of america? PTT or Camera
    Phones? PTT is mostly aimed towards businesses and with good reason its
    a quick way to keep in contact with the office or your outside sales
    force.

    Picture Phones are utilized more as a for fun item....seeing that you
    have Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, Cingular, and many other providers that
    have Camera phones which you can send or receive pictures from anyone
    else with a picture messaging phone.

    Two Major Companies have PTT now: Nextel and Verizon

    Four Major Companies have Picture Phones: Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile,
    Cingular

    Picture phones all in all are more popular than PTT phones, I'm
    surprised your oblivious to that fact.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  11. #11
    David Domanski
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?



    Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > >

    >
    > If I don't get any more delight than listening to the backpedaling on PTT, I
    > will die a happy man. I'm glad you think that camera phones are the new
    > hoth thing- too bad the supply is going to be a little tight, and the phone
    > Verizon will be selling wasn't their first choice (what does that say about
    > quality).
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >


    Backpeddling? Will Be? Man your lost aren't you?

    Whats happening ALL over the country now? You got it kids are getting
    back to school starting new grades in high school or new years in
    college and what is aimed more at the youth of america? PTT or Camera
    Phones? PTT is mostly aimed towards businesses and with good reason its
    a quick way to keep in contact with the office or your outside sales
    force.

    Picture Phones are utilized more as a for fun item....seeing that you
    have Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, Cingular, and many other providers that
    have Camera phones which you can send or receive pictures from anyone
    else with a picture messaging phone.

    Two Major Companies have PTT now: Nextel and Verizon

    Four Major Companies have Picture Phones: Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile,
    Cingular

    Picture phones all in all are more popular than PTT phones, I'm
    surprised your oblivious to that fact.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  12. #12
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    Don't forget that AT&T also offers camera phones...they are not heavily
    advertised, but are available.

    AD



    David Domanski wrote:
    > Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>>

    >>If I don't get any more delight than listening to the backpedaling on PTT, I
    >>will die a happy man. I'm glad you think that camera phones are the new
    >>hoth thing- too bad the supply is going to be a little tight, and the phone
    >>Verizon will be selling wasn't their first choice (what does that say about
    >>quality).
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>[posted via phonescoop.com]

    >>

    >
    > Backpeddling? Will Be? Man your lost aren't you?
    >
    > Whats happening ALL over the country now? You got it kids are getting
    > back to school starting new grades in high school or new years in
    > college and what is aimed more at the youth of america? PTT or Camera
    > Phones? PTT is mostly aimed towards businesses and with good reason its
    > a quick way to keep in contact with the office or your outside sales
    > force.
    >
    > Picture Phones are utilized more as a for fun item....seeing that you
    > have Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, Cingular, and many other providers that
    > have Camera phones which you can send or receive pictures from anyone
    > else with a picture messaging phone.
    >
    > Two Major Companies have PTT now: Nextel and Verizon
    >
    > Four Major Companies have Picture Phones: Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile,
    > Cingular
    >
    > Picture phones all in all are more popular than PTT phones, I'm
    > surprised your oblivious to that fact.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]





  13. #13
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?

    Don't forget that AT&T also offers camera phones...they are not heavily
    advertised, but are available.

    AD



    David Domanski wrote:
    > Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>>

    >>If I don't get any more delight than listening to the backpedaling on PTT, I
    >>will die a happy man. I'm glad you think that camera phones are the new
    >>hoth thing- too bad the supply is going to be a little tight, and the phone
    >>Verizon will be selling wasn't their first choice (what does that say about
    >>quality).
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>[posted via phonescoop.com]

    >>

    >
    > Backpeddling? Will Be? Man your lost aren't you?
    >
    > Whats happening ALL over the country now? You got it kids are getting
    > back to school starting new grades in high school or new years in
    > college and what is aimed more at the youth of america? PTT or Camera
    > Phones? PTT is mostly aimed towards businesses and with good reason its
    > a quick way to keep in contact with the office or your outside sales
    > force.
    >
    > Picture Phones are utilized more as a for fun item....seeing that you
    > have Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, Cingular, and many other providers that
    > have Camera phones which you can send or receive pictures from anyone
    > else with a picture messaging phone.
    >
    > Two Major Companies have PTT now: Nextel and Verizon
    >
    > Four Major Companies have Picture Phones: Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile,
    > Cingular
    >
    > Picture phones all in all are more popular than PTT phones, I'm
    > surprised your oblivious to that fact.
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]





  14. #14
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?


    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > After a full day of watching football, I noticed quite a few Verizon
    > commercials. They were all older commercials, and none of them mentioned
    > PTT. In addition, the PTT advertisement on their hone page was replaced
    > with a camera phone about three days ago. Finally, the advertising in the
    > Sunday paper mentions nothing about PTT (this hasn't been the case for the
    > last few weeks). Have they given up, or does this mean that there might
    > have been some merit in the lawsuit filed by Nextel? With nothing else

    new
    > to advertise, it seems like an awful lot of money has been sunk into a
    > product that they choose not to advertise. And all of this happening very
    > early in the product lifecycle can not be a good thing.


    That's funny, I just looked at the website and the very first thing on the
    "For business" menu is.... you guessed it, push to talk!

    <Start Paste>
    For Business

    Push to Talk

    Email on the Go

    Wi-Fi High Speed
    Wireless

    BlackBerry®
    Solutions
    <End Paste>

    Actually, my understanding is they are pushing the camera phones now,
    something about school starting, kids gone, holidays coming up etc.
    Considering I am out of school and traveling, I kind of like the email on
    the go stuff





  15. #15
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: What happened to all of the Verizon PTT advertising?


    "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > After a full day of watching football, I noticed quite a few Verizon
    > commercials. They were all older commercials, and none of them mentioned
    > PTT. In addition, the PTT advertisement on their hone page was replaced
    > with a camera phone about three days ago. Finally, the advertising in the
    > Sunday paper mentions nothing about PTT (this hasn't been the case for the
    > last few weeks). Have they given up, or does this mean that there might
    > have been some merit in the lawsuit filed by Nextel? With nothing else

    new
    > to advertise, it seems like an awful lot of money has been sunk into a
    > product that they choose not to advertise. And all of this happening very
    > early in the product lifecycle can not be a good thing.


    That's funny, I just looked at the website and the very first thing on the
    "For business" menu is.... you guessed it, push to talk!

    <Start Paste>
    For Business

    Push to Talk

    Email on the Go

    Wi-Fi High Speed
    Wireless

    BlackBerry®
    Solutions
    <End Paste>

    Actually, my understanding is they are pushing the camera phones now,
    something about school starting, kids gone, holidays coming up etc.
    Considering I am out of school and traveling, I kind of like the email on
    the go stuff





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