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  1. #1
    Drk
    Guest
    Hello,

    I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!

    - Drek



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  2. #2
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Drk wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
    > from calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    > - Drek



    PTT is great for short conversations, but its main purpose is really
    directed towards a business audience. I find it great for those calls
    where I only need a quick answer to a question, or to find out where
    someone is. It does get a little cumbersome when trying to carry on a
    'normal' conversation, but as a business tool (talk to your whole team at
    once) it is a great thing.



  3. #3
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Drk wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different
    > from calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    > - Drek



    PTT is great for short conversations, but its main purpose is really
    directed towards a business audience. I find it great for those calls
    where I only need a quick answer to a question, or to find out where
    someone is. It does get a little cumbersome when trying to carry on a
    'normal' conversation, but as a business tool (talk to your whole team at
    once) it is a great thing.



  4. #4
    Larry W4CSC
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    The only advantage it has is you can talk to a whole group of
    similarly-equipped people in the SAME GROUP at once. A boss can make
    announcements to all his employees at once, for instance, over a wide
    area.

    There are no advantages for speaking to one person, but many many
    disadvantages...lack of privacy, rudeness in public, and of course
    WAIT, WAIT, WAIT every time it switches.



    On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:40:39 -0400, Drk <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    >PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    >calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    >half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    >to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    >advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    >wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    >- Drek



    Larry W4CSC

    3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
    gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
    conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?



  5. #5
    Larry W4CSC
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    The only advantage it has is you can talk to a whole group of
    similarly-equipped people in the SAME GROUP at once. A boss can make
    announcements to all his employees at once, for instance, over a wide
    area.

    There are no advantages for speaking to one person, but many many
    disadvantages...lack of privacy, rudeness in public, and of course
    WAIT, WAIT, WAIT every time it switches.



    On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:40:39 -0400, Drk <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    >PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    >calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    >half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    >to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    >advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    >wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    >- Drek



    Larry W4CSC

    3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
    gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
    conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?



  6. #6
    dep_blueman
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Here are some notes from a previous posting, in part:

    ABOUT DC:
    For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use to
    but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units much
    more than you will call them.

    First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
    seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. On
    a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion of
    others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while on
    your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
    message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
    between other interactions.

    There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
    call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife and I
    both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
    driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we would
    feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we can
    just DC each other when we have something to say without the
    expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. It
    has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.

    Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue to
    answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be on
    the phone with them for hours.

    And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
    Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.

    Drk <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    > calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    > - Drek




  7. #7
    dep_blueman
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Here are some notes from a previous posting, in part:

    ABOUT DC:
    For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use to
    but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units much
    more than you will call them.

    First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
    seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. On
    a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion of
    others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while on
    your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
    message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
    between other interactions.

    There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
    call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife and I
    both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
    driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we would
    feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we can
    just DC each other when we have something to say without the
    expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. It
    has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.

    Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue to
    answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be on
    the phone with them for hours.

    And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
    Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.

    Drk <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    > calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    > - Drek




  8. #8
    penael
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Thanks for your posting. I've never been a fan of seeming-rude people
    broadcasting their conversation in the open air, but I DO get what you
    are trying to say. Now PTT makes at least a little sense to me.


    > ABOUT DC:
    > For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use to
    > but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units much
    > more than you will call them.
    >
    > First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
    > seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. On
    > a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion of
    > others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while on
    > your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
    > message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
    > between other interactions.
    >
    > There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
    > call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife and I
    > both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
    > driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we would
    > feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we can
    > just DC each other when we have something to say without the
    > expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. It
    > has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.
    >
    > Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue to
    > answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be on
    > the phone with them for hours.
    >
    > And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
    > Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.



    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #9
    penael
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Thanks for your posting. I've never been a fan of seeming-rude people
    broadcasting their conversation in the open air, but I DO get what you
    are trying to say. Now PTT makes at least a little sense to me.


    > ABOUT DC:
    > For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use to
    > but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units much
    > more than you will call them.
    >
    > First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
    > seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. On
    > a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion of
    > others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while on
    > your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
    > message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
    > between other interactions.
    >
    > There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
    > call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife and I
    > both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
    > driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we would
    > feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we can
    > just DC each other when we have something to say without the
    > expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. It
    > has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.
    >
    > Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue to
    > answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be on
    > the phone with them for hours.
    >
    > And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
    > Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.



    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  10. #10
    David Little
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    I may not be entirely accurate in this portrayal, but the Verizon (and soon
    others) version of PTT uses an "unconnected packet" approach; in which it
    negotiates a path and connection for each transmission. The connection is
    dropped as soon as the PTT button is released and the packet clears the last
    tower into the receiver's area. This is the cause for the delay in connect
    times. I believe this will be the way that the other carriers will try to
    cash in on the success that Nextel has created with their trunked network.

    OTOH, Nextel is a connected system, in which the connection; once
    negotiated, is maintained until the conversation is finished and one of the
    participants closes the connection. This is a view from a Direct Connect
    perspective. Another good thing for consideration is the depth of
    commitment that Nextel has created by making their service available to
    public service, law enforcement, government, etc. users.

    In the old days, the cellular carriers all had the equivalent of an "Access
    Overload Class" which would stratify the users into levels of importance in
    times of disaster or service overload. Usually, the garden variety citizen
    would have a number around 15 on the list. That way, lower numbers in this
    field would give higher priority access to the cellsite in times where the
    service reached overload capacity.

    With the amount of "professional" customers that Nextel has in service,
    their system may fare better in an overload situation. I would venture a
    guess that the cellsites that have a large government or enforcement user
    base would be given a lot of support to keep them on the air in times of
    disaster.

    I have no concrete evidence to back this guess, but I feel it has some
    merit.

    This isn't so much an indication of 2-way over cellular, but possible
    insight into the difference in the carriers and how their systems may hold
    up at "crunch time".



    "Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different

    from
    > calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    > - Drek






  11. #11
    David Little
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    I may not be entirely accurate in this portrayal, but the Verizon (and soon
    others) version of PTT uses an "unconnected packet" approach; in which it
    negotiates a path and connection for each transmission. The connection is
    dropped as soon as the PTT button is released and the packet clears the last
    tower into the receiver's area. This is the cause for the delay in connect
    times. I believe this will be the way that the other carriers will try to
    cash in on the success that Nextel has created with their trunked network.

    OTOH, Nextel is a connected system, in which the connection; once
    negotiated, is maintained until the conversation is finished and one of the
    participants closes the connection. This is a view from a Direct Connect
    perspective. Another good thing for consideration is the depth of
    commitment that Nextel has created by making their service available to
    public service, law enforcement, government, etc. users.

    In the old days, the cellular carriers all had the equivalent of an "Access
    Overload Class" which would stratify the users into levels of importance in
    times of disaster or service overload. Usually, the garden variety citizen
    would have a number around 15 on the list. That way, lower numbers in this
    field would give higher priority access to the cellsite in times where the
    service reached overload capacity.

    With the amount of "professional" customers that Nextel has in service,
    their system may fare better in an overload situation. I would venture a
    guess that the cellsites that have a large government or enforcement user
    base would be given a lot of support to keep them on the air in times of
    disaster.

    I have no concrete evidence to back this guess, but I feel it has some
    merit.

    This isn't so much an indication of 2-way over cellular, but possible
    insight into the difference in the carriers and how their systems may hold
    up at "crunch time".



    "Drk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hello,
    >
    > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different

    from
    > calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    >
    > - Drek






  12. #12
    John Squire
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    I use PTT thru nextel to talk to my wife. I've used it to talk to co
    workers for hours. Reason, I have unlimited direct connect for pennies
    on the dollar compared to cellular. I have nationwide direct connect.
    I have many friends with nextels.

    [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > The only advantage it has is you can talk to a whole group of
    > similarly-equipped people in the SAME GROUP at once. A boss can make
    > announcements to all his employees at once, for instance, over a wide
    > area.
    >
    > There are no advantages for speaking to one person, but many many
    > disadvantages...lack of privacy, rudeness in public, and of course
    > WAIT, WAIT, WAIT every time it switches.
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:40:39 -0400, Drk <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Hello,
    > >
    > > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > >PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    > >calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > >half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > >to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > >advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > >wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    > >
    > >- Drek

    >
    >
    > Larry W4CSC
    >
    > 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
    > gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
    > conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  13. #13
    John Squire
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    I use PTT thru nextel to talk to my wife. I've used it to talk to co
    workers for hours. Reason, I have unlimited direct connect for pennies
    on the dollar compared to cellular. I have nationwide direct connect.
    I have many friends with nextels.

    [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > The only advantage it has is you can talk to a whole group of
    > similarly-equipped people in the SAME GROUP at once. A boss can make
    > announcements to all his employees at once, for instance, over a wide
    > area.
    >
    > There are no advantages for speaking to one person, but many many
    > disadvantages...lack of privacy, rudeness in public, and of course
    > WAIT, WAIT, WAIT every time it switches.
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:40:39 -0400, Drk <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Hello,
    > >
    > > I am a Verizon wireless customer and was wondering what advantages the
    > >PTT (Push to Talk) features provides? I mean, is it all that different from
    > >calling someone normally? In fact if I understand correctly it is
    > >half-duplex as opposed to full-duplex with a normal cell call. If one was
    > >to take a regular cell phone with speaker phone capability, what would the
    > >advantage to PTT be? I am not trying to be sarcastic, rather I am just
    > >wondering if I am missing something. Thanks!
    > >
    > >- Drek

    >
    >
    > Larry W4CSC
    >
    > 3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
    > gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
    > conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  14. #14
    John Squire
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Not sure if you new this or not, but you can shut the speaker off and
    hold the phone up to your ear for PTT with a nextel. That way your
    conversation is private. Just remember to push the button when
    speaking.

    [email protected] (penael ) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Thanks for your posting. I've never been a fan of seeming-rude people
    > broadcasting their conversation in the open air, but I DO get what you
    > are trying to say. Now PTT makes at least a little sense to me.
    >
    >
    > > ABOUT DC:
    > > For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use to
    > > but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units much
    > > more than you will call them.
    > >
    > > First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
    > > seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. On
    > > a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion of
    > > others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while on
    > > your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
    > > message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
    > > between other interactions.
    > >
    > > There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
    > > call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife and I
    > > both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
    > > driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we would
    > > feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we can
    > > just DC each other when we have something to say without the
    > > expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. It
    > > has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.
    > >
    > > Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue to
    > > answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be on
    > > the phone with them for hours.
    > >
    > > And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
    > > Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.

    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  15. #15
    John Squire
    Guest

    Re: PTT - Advantages over regular wireless??

    Not sure if you new this or not, but you can shut the speaker off and
    hold the phone up to your ear for PTT with a nextel. That way your
    conversation is private. Just remember to push the button when
    speaking.

    [email protected] (penael ) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Thanks for your posting. I've never been a fan of seeming-rude people
    > broadcasting their conversation in the open air, but I DO get what you
    > are trying to say. Now PTT makes at least a little sense to me.
    >
    >
    > > ABOUT DC:
    > > For us it is a very welcome addition. It takes some getting use to
    > > but once you do (IMO) you will DC others that have Nextel units much
    > > more than you will call them.
    > >
    > > First, the setup time is ~1 second vs. a phone call which is ~5-8
    > > seconds. More significant is the async nature of direct connect. On
    > > a phone call you are 'bound' to that interaction to the exclusion of
    > > others. e.g. you can't be talking to somone in your office while on
    > > your cell phone, etc. With DC it is more like using an instant
    > > message service vs. a phone call. You can divide your attention
    > > between other interactions.
    > >
    > > There is also the general felling of a DC interaction vs. a phone
    > > call. It is hard to describe but I will give it a go... My wife and I
    > > both have Nextel units and often DC each other in the course of
    > > driving home (~30-50 min.) from work. Now, on a phone call we would
    > > feel like we have to keep talking for the full time but with DC we can
    > > just DC each other when we have something to say without the
    > > expectation that one of us will be talking non-stop for 30 min. It
    > > has the feel of a long conversation without the negitives, IMO.
    > >
    > > Same goes for work...you can DC someone who is woking on an issue to
    > > answer questions, etc, off and on for hours without having to be on
    > > the phone with them for hours.
    > >
    > > And, DC is unlimited on most plans for as you use DC between other
    > > Nextel users you have far more min. available for phone calls.

    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



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